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US quietly assumes military posture in Africa
Yahoo ^ | 10/27/11 | Jason Straziuso - ap

Posted on 10/27/2011 12:17:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — By the time U.S. military forces left Somalia in 1994 after entering the lawless nation more than a year earlier to stop a famine, 44 Army soldiers, Marines and airmen had been killed and dozens more wounded. Thus ended America's last large-scale military intervention in Africa.

But the U.S. has come back, using special forces advisers, drones and tens of millions of dollars in military aid to combat a growing and multifaceted security threat. This time the United States is playing a less obtrusive role but is focusing once again on Somalia.

While putting few U.S. troops at risk, the United States is also providing intelligence and training to fight militants across the continent, from Mauritania in the west along the Atlantic Ocean, to Somalia in the east along the Indian Ocean.

The Pentagon is paying a lot more attention to Africa than in years past, analysts say. ..

And, most worrisome to the United States, an al-Qaida-linked group in Somalia has recruited dozens of Americans, most of them of Somali descent.

"If you ask me what keeps me awake at night, it is the thought of an American passport-holding person who transits through a training camp in Somalia and gets some skill and then finds their way back into the United States to attack Americans here in our homeland," Gen. Carter Ham, the commander of the U.S. Africa Command, said in Washington this month. "That's mission failure for us."

U.S. and European officials also worry that AQIM is working to establish contacts with Boko Haram and al-Shabab, the Islamist Somali insurgent group.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 1994; africa; alqaeda; alshabaab; alshabab; alshabbab; alshebab; aqim; assumes; bokoharam; lies; militaryposture; obama; operationrestorehope; quietly; somalia; soros; uganda; whereiscongress
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1 posted on 10/27/2011 12:17:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Somebody explain to me which Somali Muslims are the good ones and which are the bad ones. We’re supposed to trust Obama on this?


2 posted on 10/27/2011 12:20:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is so wrong in so many ways - Obama has made a gigantic mistake!


3 posted on 10/27/2011 12:21:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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Mogadishu. Khartoum. Sud Afrika.

O is a whisp of Shaka Zulu cross the motherlands of
the Earth.. or maybe just as dumb as clinton if he just gets a bunch of our side killed or taken over by radical Islam’s tentacles.


4 posted on 10/27/2011 12:21:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Do we really have to kick everyone’s butt in the world? What are our strategic interests in Africa?


5 posted on 10/27/2011 12:23:06 PM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah. Wow. Oh Boy. Here We Go.

Anybody seen Congress, lately?


6 posted on 10/27/2011 12:23:43 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: SatinDoll
This is so wrong in so many ways - Obama has made a gigantic mistake!

Correction - Obama IS a gigantic mistake

7 posted on 10/27/2011 12:29:23 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: SatinDoll

He’s forced to go Global, he’s in so deep and born lucky to have a military that does not quit... which is par for the course for the last few hundred years when it comes to that neck of the woods, you’re all in or hope the wild animals and pirates don’t get ya..

The outreach of Islam and Marxism is slowly eating away at what little is left of African democracies and its so rich with possibilities environment and natural resources.


8 posted on 10/27/2011 12:29:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Actually, we should have a presence of some sort there. Just not with this guy in charge.


9 posted on 10/27/2011 12:31:51 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: Molon Labbie

Somalia Pirates.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 12:38:52 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: atc23
Anybody seen Congress, lately?

Yeah, they're all either marching with the dregs of society in protests, or at fund-raisers.

11 posted on 10/27/2011 12:39:41 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: NormsRevenge
US quietly assumes military posture in Africa

BOHICA?

12 posted on 10/27/2011 12:39:50 PM PDT by RichInOC (Sarah Palin is at war with the left. Most Freepers are just playing the video game.)
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To: SatinDoll

Our inillustrious Congress has made an even bigger one.


13 posted on 10/27/2011 12:45:12 PM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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To: theDentist

the GOP yet again are silent.
The anti war protesters hide behind their sofa’s until a republican is in office and then they will come out with their warmonger, , no more war signs.

We should not have been in Kosovo, Libya and certainly not in the rest of Africa.


14 posted on 10/27/2011 12:45:57 PM PDT by manc ( Marriage=1man+1 woman http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large)
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To: RitchieAprile

You’re right, I agree. I am just concerned that we would make some attempt to go after EVERY dictator in the continent.

I don’t know, I guess we are getting really good at it...


15 posted on 10/27/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: Molon Labbie
“What are our strategic interests in Africa?”

Oil or more correctly untapped oil reserves and removal of oil producers that don't want to play nice,economically speaking. Namely Iran who now accepts euros for their oil instead of only dollars. Once the troops are drawn down from Iraq I believe Israel will move on Iran. The ME will get very hot for awhile so we are looking to cultivate other sources of oil and hopefully displace China in the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Sudan#Oil
http://www.economist.com/node/15825780

16 posted on 10/27/2011 12:51:15 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Molon Labbie
What are our strategic interests in Africa?

The Horn of Africa is a very strategic place through which large numbers of our Navy's ships and civilian shipping pass. There has been no functioning government in most of Somalia for a long time, which is why the pirates can operate. Plus, Al Qaeda has figured out they can operate there for the same reason.

We aren't, however, sending troops to Somalia. Not after the Mogadishu fiasco. Instead, friendly local countries, like Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda have been doing what they can to keep a lid on the situation. One reason we are helping Uganda with the Lord's Resistance Army, which is more of a gang of thugs than an army or liberation movement, is that they are helping us in Somalia.

Obama is a truly awful President, but not everything he does is wrong. Stopped clock and all that.

17 posted on 10/27/2011 12:54:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: NormsRevenge

Rouge dictators are incompatible with the New World Order, hence the Obozo’s public statement last week of dictators like and kind to Qaddafi are on notice.


18 posted on 10/27/2011 12:54:59 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: atc23
Anybody seen Congress, lately?

Nope....don't seem to be even 'present' anymore. Where are their voices? Looks like silence speaks volumes in this case and others. Not saying anything IS supporting it.

19 posted on 10/27/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: NormsRevenge

Africom was stood up and activated in 2007 under Bush. They serve a very important strategic function in the war on terror and more broadly (that’s all I’m saying), and show that we have learned some important things since the Clinton Mogadishu debacle... Wouldn’t you rather we support our allies in Africa with training, education, and intel and let them fight the Muzzies with their soldiers than try to do it with our own? Our soldiers in Africa are not in harms way, they are not involved in combat operations... Do a little research, go to AFRICOM’s web page... this command has been a very wise strategic investment and has nothing to do with Obama. You notice there is a war being fought right now (Kenya vs Somali Muzzies)? That’s why the current interest. There is a lot more going on in Africa than the Somali’s, and like it or not we gotta be there.


20 posted on 10/27/2011 1:03:20 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: NormsRevenge
NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — By the time U.S. military forces left Somalia in 1994 after entering the lawless nation more than a year earlier to stop a famine

Hold it right there, AP. The first problem is, the US gooberment can not stop a FAMINE!

21 posted on 10/27/2011 1:03:35 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: b4its2late
Actually, we should have a presence of some sort there

I disagree. We cannot police the world, and I don't want to pay for it.

A better use of our money and the time of American soldiers and other agents is to watch suspicious activity and people HERE.

I don't really care if some American somali goes to Africa and trains to be a terrorist. Have at it. I care when they are allowed back onto American soil.

If we put all of our effort into watching the borders and immigration, we wouldn't have to try to pay attention to what every person is or isn't doing in every country around the world.

That said, if the U.S. is worried about terrorist training camps then bomb the crap out of them every time one is identified.

22 posted on 10/27/2011 1:04:32 PM PDT by teenyelliott
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To: NormsRevenge
Could it be that Obama is setting up for a war if he needs one for the 2012 campaign?
23 posted on 10/27/2011 1:05:01 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Polynikes

-——Once the troops are drawn down from Iraq I believe Israel will move on Iran-——

Interesting thought. Why should the Israelis wait till Iraq is evacuated? Why not now?


24 posted on 10/27/2011 1:07:59 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hussein is a joke.


25 posted on 10/27/2011 1:17:56 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: drypowder
Rouge dictators are incompatible with the New World Order

That's exactly right and more people should pay attention to this as those pulling all the strings continue to position the nations for One World Governance.

Libya and Egypt are a prime example of what happens when leadership of nations say no. Both Qaddafi and Mubarak refused to go along with the EU/Mediterranean push for inclusion...Qaddafi even stated he would not take his nation into a revived Roman Empire...he was a beast but he wasn't stupid when it came to the positioning of nations...neither was Mubarak.

Now the obvious push in Africa nations to bring them into compliance....just as the so called Arab Spring was initiated and pushed...to bring the ME nations into compliance...the only way that can happen is for those willing to comply or they'll be outed by their own people..so to speak...with plenty of help as we saw in Libya.

26 posted on 10/27/2011 1:19:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: LambSlave

allow me to be cynical of mission and commitment. Bush is no longer President. Thanks for the link.


27 posted on 10/27/2011 1:21:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Truth29

“Could it be that Obama is setting up for a war if he needs one for the 2012 campaign?”

I don’t get it. His base is generally anti-war, ANY war. This won’t help him.


28 posted on 10/27/2011 1:23:42 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Fast & Furious: Holder gone by the end of the year.)
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To: Cicero

Aren’t good muslims an oxymoron?


29 posted on 10/27/2011 1:24:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: colorado tanker; Polynikes

Thanks for the info.


30 posted on 10/27/2011 1:25:08 PM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: Molon Labbie

“I am just concerned that we would make some attempt to go after EVERY dictator in the continent.”

The One cannot share the title: DICTATOR with anyone else. He must remove all dictators as he assumes world dictator.


31 posted on 10/27/2011 1:26:37 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: NormsRevenge
US quietly assumes military posture in Africa

And to think, I changed my tagline before this even happened.

32 posted on 10/27/2011 1:30:09 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: NormsRevenge

I understand the cynicism, just don’t think it is warranted in this case. link is www.africom.mil, btw


33 posted on 10/27/2011 1:31:45 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: bert
“Why should the Israelis wait till Iraq is evacuated? Why not now?”

Probably limitation of collateral damage ie: US casualties in a Iranian retaliation strike. Also a minimal US presence will give a degree of plausible deniabilty (Oops we didn't see those F15’s going by. We can't be everywhere at once. oh well)

34 posted on 10/27/2011 1:32:00 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: teenyelliott
I don't mean policing it. I mean for the resources.

But chasing the terrorists down if they are there is good too. They only understand brute force. Take no prisoners. But this dude is not the one for that because he ties their hands.

35 posted on 10/27/2011 1:51:40 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: NormsRevenge

The U.S. networks don’t tell you this, but al Jazeera does with their headline, “U.S. troops in Uganda are ‘combat-ready’.”


36 posted on 10/27/2011 2:02:22 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Molon Labbie

Oil, as stated. Also gold and diamonds and other gems and minerals.


37 posted on 10/27/2011 2:06:16 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: caww

Similiar thing happened to the Roman Senate.


38 posted on 10/27/2011 2:08:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: NormsRevenge

Gen. Carter Ham

LOL

You just can’t make that name up but, he’s real


39 posted on 10/27/2011 2:09:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Molon Labbie

The First Family has Brothers, Aunts and Uncles there.

African security is an American priority. We don’t want a member of the first family getting kidnapped.


40 posted on 10/27/2011 2:12:40 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: LambSlave
Do a little research, go to AFRICOM’s web page... this command has been a very wise strategic investment and has nothing to do with Obama.

I remain sceptical. Anyway, why not let the Chinese and the Muslims duke it out in Africa? You never see China being anyone's good guy like the U.S. is, but they are there strictly for business purposes only.

41 posted on 10/27/2011 2:13:22 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: NormsRevenge

“US quietly assumes military posture in Africa”

It usually starts quietly, like a tumor.


42 posted on 10/27/2011 2:17:20 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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43 posted on 10/27/2011 2:23:26 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: drypowder

Did Q use rouge? Wouldn’t be suprised, vain as he was..


44 posted on 10/27/2011 2:23:34 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: NormsRevenge

One war ends another starts.


45 posted on 10/27/2011 2:28:40 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks NormsRevenge.
A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

46 posted on 10/27/2011 2:58:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
John Podesta is now advising Hillary and the State Department. Soros's Open society institute is in Africa. Soros is behind R2P UN initiative to bypass Congress.

Why U.S. military in Uganda? Soros fingerprints all over it.

The billionaire's Open Society Institute, meanwhile, runs numerous offices in Uganda. It maintains a country manager in Uganda, as well as the Open Society Initiative for East Africa, which supports work in Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda.

The Open Society Institute runs a Ugandan Youth Action Fund, which states its mission is to "identify, inspire, and support small groups of dedicated young people who can mobilize and influence large numbers of their peers to promote open society ideals."

47 posted on 10/27/2011 3:10:03 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: MinorityRepublican
Well the Roman Senate pretty much fazed out along the way...though there were periods where they tried to regain their power. But they were never officially dismembered.
48 posted on 10/27/2011 3:12:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: RitchieAprile
Q?? The Obozo didn't use the term rogue dictator. Paraphrasing: I recall him saying something to the effect of; governments who act lawlessly are on notice thus my inference of rogue dictators.
49 posted on 10/27/2011 3:19:10 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Molon Labbie

This is also about China. They just are not talking about it. China is moving into Africa bigtime. Leasing thousands and thousands of acres of farmland to grow crops etc.


50 posted on 10/27/2011 3:34:44 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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