Posted on 10/28/2011 1:45:03 AM PDT by hocndoc
DO CONSERVATIVES WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?
This is a serious question, by no means rhetorical. Conservatives may be full of sound and fury against Zero, but it signifies nothing without actual evidence, of which there is little.
Tea Partyers can wave the American flag and proclaim their passion for reclaiming America, but you can't beat something with nothing.
If this isn't true, then why is a Total Rino way ahead in the polls? *******************
Perry's tax and economic reform proposal is far, far better (and better thought out) than Cain's 9-9-9, which keeps changing and necessitates a national sales tax. His mechanism for reducing the federal government to Constitutional levels is the best one for doing so - the 10th Amendment. He will revive the economy far, far more than Romney would by getting the government more out of the way, and by drilling, baby, drilling. (Remember that Romney's a Warmist who loves renewable energy scams.)
One of these days, conservatives are going to have to figure out that we're not to going to get better than Perry. And that he really is our best chance to rescue our economy, indeed our country.
To see why - or at least to consider this as a possibility - read the transcript of Perry's interview with John Harwood of CNBC on Tuesday (10/25). http://thepage.time.com/2011/10/25/transcript-of-rick-perrys-interview-with-cnbcs-john-harwood/ (A caveat: this is an unedited computer-generated transcription of Perry's answers with lots of mistakes and glitches, which were left in - one suspects to make Perry not as fluent as you could see on television).
What really turned me on, frankly, was his absolute refusal to be intimidated by envy-mongering. Harwood starts right off the bat with this, saying that his tax plan would be a huge tax cut for the wealthy, that "those at the top, it is hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars for them." Perry immediately responds:
"But I don't care about that. What I care about is them having the dollars to invest in their companies. To go out and maybe start a business because they got the confidence again 'cause they actually get to keep more of what they work for."
OMG. That's the ballgame. The entire argument of the Left is an envy-trip. What America needs more than any other one single thing is a president who says to the Dems, the Enemedia, Academia, their acolytes, the entire dog's breakfast of the Left, "I don't care about your envy!
Harwood can't get over this, so later he asks a gotcha, "Do you fundamentally believe we should not have a progressive tax system in the country?" Perry straight out answers, "I do." Harwood is shocked. "But the idea of taking-- of having-- higher rates-- of various kinds for people who earn more are [sic] not right?" Again, Perry says straight, "I don't agree with that."
I encourage you to read the whole thing. Try this on:
"I don't think this president understands basic economics. Not economics that work. He may understand some theory that someone in Princeton sat and dreamed up, but it's not working.
"This President would be wise if he addressed the economy in the way that we know it works. You give incentives to job creators. Lower the tax burden, lower the regulatory climate, and this President would be stunned I'm sure. But America's economy would take off and take off quickly.
"That's what we need in a president that respects how this country got to the point of being the greatest economy in the world. And it was done simply by giving the incentive to job creators so they knew they could keep more of what they work for."
No teleprompter here, ad lib. You really think Zero could take him in a one-on-one debate? And look how he took care of the "birther" thing:
"I don't have a clue about where the President (was born) and what his birth certificate says. But it's also a great distraction. I'm not distracted by it. If those of you in the media want to talk about it that's fine, but I hope what you'll really get focused on is how are we going to get this country back on track.
"Because if we don't, America's next generation is not going to have as good a future as what we had, and that's what I'm concerned about. I know how to do that. And you do it by giving a flat tax. You get these regulations pulled off of businesses, and you allow entrepreneurs the confidence that they can go risk their capital."
You can't get a better answer than that. Birtherism is a distraction for exactly the reasons Perry says. And for another reason. Getting Zero removed from office on a technicality would be a moral disaster.
A majority of American voters electing Zero was the most suicidally stupid and immoral act ever committed en masse in American history since the Civil War. It was complete moral collapse of the electorate to vote for a man whose preacher wanted God to damn their country.
The only way it can be rectified, to stop America from continuing to slide down the path to national suicide and resurrect their morality, is for a majority of voters to unelect him.
Moreover, to unelect him such that it reverses the direction he has taken our country. So which Republican candidate can best do this? Defeat Zero resoundingly, not even close, and pervasively reverse Zero's course?
Definitely, that candidate is not Romney. I do not think it is Cain, for as fine and accomplished a man as he is, he does not know what he is doing. I think Perry does.
I could be wrong about Cain. He is very smart, maybe smart enough to climb a virtually 90-degree learning curve in the next couple of months.
Conservatives will need to watch him carefully to see if he can do this. They can't be led by emotions, neither by a crush on Cain nor by carping on Perry. They have to choose wisely.
This is the most serious choice collectively conservatives will ever make. The literal fate of our America depends on it. Conservatives have to decide whether they want to win in 2012 or not.
Yeah. That old rape and incest. Really heartless. Cain is straddling the fence. He is against abortion personally and since it’s safely legal, he’s free to say it should be illegal...but it’s still up to the family.
Herman Cain is a remarkable human being but the dislike of him grows daily because of the disrespect his supporters demonstrate for other candidates. While the supporters of other candidates are thoughtful, respectful in offering debate, Cain’s supporters are name-calling cyber bullies. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Absolutely childish..
Yeah? His wardrobe manager should respect him enough to scrap it. I saw an old TV show and someone named Tyrone was wearing one like it.
I imagine that sucker would be running if some doctor came at him with a syringe full of Gardasil. LOL
“We seem to have forgotten that we are electing a Commander in Chief as well as a chief executive. Given the current world situation. I don’t think OJT is an option. Perry is the only candidate with any military background. Gingrich has extensive military history creds.”
You absolutely get what it’s all about.
I think our country is getting so used to class warfare that we forget about having a great America where everyone has the opportunity to reach up and get ahead.
Rick Perry has a view of an exceptional America, and that includes the ability for Americans to be exceptional as well. I think sometimes we forget how to dream these days, but if we stand by the fiscal conservatism Rick Perry exhibits with every bone in his body and every principle he stands for, and always had, we'll begin to remember what it was like to think about a better life ahead... for everyone.
Thank you for the article and links. This is very thought-provoking information we should all have in the forefront of our minds!
As I said, I skipped the middle section. there’s a ton left out where the *********** is. I skipped the negative part.
http://www.tothepointnews.com/
Here’s the poll the op-ed points to:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/26/poll-romney-at-or-tied-for-top-spot-in-first-4-states-to-vote/
via
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66937.html
And here’s the comment about Coulter (it’s visible on the non-subscription page http://www.tothepointnews.com/ )
“”The difference between Establishment Republicans and Conservatives is that the former care more about winning than principles, which is why they constantly compromise them. Thus their mantra of ABO - which they morph into the con that only Rino Romney can beat Zero.
“”When conservatives - such as Ann Coulter - make the same argument, then they have ceased being conservatives and have become the very establishment Rinos they claim to despise. “”
No, the author contrast Cain’s 9-9-/9-0-9 with Perry’s plan.
He calls Romney a RINO.
“40% of the voters identify as conservative.
I bet that a third to a half of that 40 percent, were they to express their views on FR, would get the zot.
Those of us who regularly post to this site are a segment of a segment of a segment of the electorate. “
Are you basing your guess on the results of the 2010 elections?
I come to a different conclusion when I look at the conservative landslide last year.
I expect next year to be even bigger :)
Our Texas Dems were - may still be, since there are some who vote pro-life - more conservative than today’s Northeastern Republicans.
Even Ralph Hall didn’t turn Republican until about 5 years ago.
Back in the early ‘80’s, my mother was the Republican election judge in Henderson County in East Texas, for a precinct that supposedly had only 10 Republican voters. People snuck in the back door to vote in the Republican primary. One Baptist preacher lost his pulpit for voting in the Republican primary.
I’m glad you won’t be voting for the winning candidate come November next year - at least that is the inference I draw from your rant.
It is also true that most of the Texas jobs that J.R. brags about went to immigrants, half to illegal immigrants. These jobs were taken from Americans.
Study: Most new Texas jobs went to immigrants
I don't care about his positions on other issues. His immigration policy is pure treason.
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