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Blame the Sexual Revolution, Not Men
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2011 | Mona Charen

Posted on 10/28/2011 5:09:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: globelamp; Vor Lady
Your son was lucky in that he got reasonably good advice. This is the iron law of female mate choice laid bare - men who are sweet, kind, etc. will tend to actively repel women. Women want strong, manly, assertive men. Tell your son to be more assertive around women, and less eager to please. He is a man, and should feel free to act like one.

Excellent advice.

Going a little deeper, there are probably hard-wired long-term evolutionary reasons for this. The "sweet, kind" men tend to be among the first to die (along with any women who depend on them) when the environment takes a turn for the worse, and things can change very rapidly (ask survivors of events in Germany in the 1930s, white farmers in Zimbabwe, etc). There is survival value in being attracted to somebody who has a certain degree of aggressiveness and a willingness to be ruthless when the situation indicates.

The son needs to adopt an attitude of cocky self-confidence, and be less "sweet and kind" ( = willingness to have women walk all over him, which they interpret as weakness)

161 posted on 10/28/2011 7:41:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ok, that’s twice I’ve read a post that is right on, and you posted it. We are appearing redundant, at least in our thoughts.


162 posted on 10/28/2011 7:41:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: globelamp

I HAD a problem that I didn’t understand. I understand it now, and am fine with it, and can actually do something about it, socially, when I have to. I did luck out with the woman, all right. But seriously, I must have brought SOMETHING to the table.

And, she was able to be a stay-at-home mom while our children were young. And I let her keep big dogs as house pets. What more could she ask? :)


163 posted on 10/28/2011 7:41:38 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Pollster1

I don’t know what you’re seeing, but I don’t find her unattractive at all, especially without the makeup. Remember, she’s pushing 40. (Of course, at 58, I may be seeing things differently—I knew I was getting old when Mrs. Howell started looking good!)


164 posted on 10/28/2011 7:43:22 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: chesley

I’m completely with you on that. Unfortunately, both of you have to feel that way. And our culture incents women to “dump the bum” way too much.


165 posted on 10/28/2011 7:43:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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166 posted on 10/28/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: sportutegrl
I am encouraging my daughter to go into engineering when she gets old enough to go to college.

Having taught in engineering school, I can tell you that noawadays, there are a lot more women there than there were when I was an undergraduate. And the men are just as horny as anywhere.

Also, there are a lot of foreign students that are looking for an American wife, so they can get a green card. Finally, there are certain nationalities that enjoy making it with Jewish women and bragging about it later. That's for all the Jewish women out there.

167 posted on 10/28/2011 7:51:34 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

—The three words that a woman most loves to hear are NOT “I love you”, but are “I wuz wrong”

Learn it early enough fellows, and you can save yourself a lot of anguish. Doesn’t matter if you were really wrong, or not. give her what she wants, and she will give you what you want.—

PLEASE tell me that was sarcasm!


168 posted on 10/28/2011 7:52:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin
The many times covert, and often times overt, message spread by the early feminists were (1) that ALL!! men were evil, nasty beasts who women should shun, (2) America was an evil, nasty capitalist hellhole where women and minorities were oppressed by the dreaded patriarchy, and (3) women and men were essentially the same beings the only difference being the sex organs.

Life has not turned out so swell for lots of committed feminists, like Bolick, many of whom were openly homosexual and loved their man-hating ways. The cumulative effect over the years of the radical feminists has been negative. The radical anti-American gender feminists had far greater effect, for the worse, than mainstream equity feminists on American society. Without their pernicious influence, American society would be far better off.

169 posted on 10/28/2011 7:54:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: rarestia

We went to school the exact same years. Although my school was much more sedate. West texas values etc.


170 posted on 10/28/2011 7:55:20 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: bert

I didn’t type what you quoted. It is from a post I was quoting and responding to.

BTW, I disagree with your post. In a pointless, evolution based reality it would be absolutely true. In our “man created in God’s image” universe, it considers the natural man while ignoring the more real, spiritual man.


171 posted on 10/28/2011 7:56:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Designer
Could it be that he just "too nice"? IOW: What she was missing was someone being mean, over-bearing, abusive, and rough.

It is a fallacy that the choice is between "nice" and "abusive". A characteristic that seems to attract women is being civil while it being clear that you will not tolerate being messed with. Referring to the movies, "Pee Wee Herman" nice will repel women, while "Bruce Willis" assertiveness will attract.

172 posted on 10/28/2011 7:58:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: TigerClaws

Gee, that was a little harsh on all women. (Although it might describe one of my older, very liberal sisters) Maybe you want to tell us about your recent experience with a woman. We’re all understanding here. I think.


173 posted on 10/28/2011 7:59:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Kaslin

She posed for the cover of a national magainze looking like THAT?

Hey honey. Brush the hair out of your face - smile - and you will look 100 percent prettier.

Of course she’ll still have the internal emotional baggage problems, but she could at least make an easy start by how she looks.


174 posted on 10/28/2011 8:17:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: PapaBear3625

The knife definitely cuts both ways, PapaBear!


175 posted on 10/28/2011 8:32:47 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: cuban leaf

That is very true, Cuban Leaf! To apologize is to show humility AND it shows concern about the other person’s feelings. When someone (male or female) lacks that basic humility, they will do so the rest of their lives.


176 posted on 10/28/2011 8:34:43 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: globelamp

“Rule of thumb for comparing sexual market value: Beta guy = Fat chick.”

Typically, people pair up with their number. A six will get with a six, eight with an eight and so on.

But a mature person will start to look past that.

My son was a solid eight - maybe a nine - in appearance. (He’s let himself go over the last year or so.) He has the ‘alpha’ personality, attitude and confidence.

He prided himself in being able to ‘get any girl that I want’, and he really could.

But he got tired of b*tches. He found out that the girls who were nines and tens were rarely good, happy, sweet people. (They’re out there, but that’s not the norm.)

He started looking at fours and sixes with more interest. Taking the time to get to know what was ‘under the hood’. He’s found that the more ‘plain’ girls tend to be much kinder and less stressful to be around. When he gives such a girl attention, she’s responsive instead of accepting it as her due and demanding more.

He’s finally realized that getting the prettiest girl to sleep with you isn’t the end game. Looks fade. He’s looking for a kind person who shares his values and that he enjoys spending time with. “You’re eventually going to have to listen to her talk. It’s more important to like someone than to lust for them.”

If he can figure all of this out at 18, it shouldn’t be beyond the grasp of the average male.

Anybody can find a loving mate. One just needs to adjust their evaluation techniques.

As far as the ‘alphas’ getting laid all the time... well, good for them. But they’re not on the path to happiness and contentment and neither are the girls that they’re sleeping with.


177 posted on 10/28/2011 8:38:17 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Kate!
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178 posted on 10/28/2011 8:40:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It’s not that she is unattractive, just that she looks cold, aloof, and impossible to please. I’m not in the dating market, but I would cheerfully have gone for a much less attractive woman with an upbeat personality back when I was dating. I’ve never been desperate enough to approach a woman with that look. I’m financially quite comfortable and still in the top 1%, even after choosing to cut my work hours and income by over 90%, but she looks like she’d complain about my old income, and even if that doubled she’d still be complaining unless I doubled my income every year. No, thank you!


179 posted on 10/28/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: TigerClaws
That would apply to most or all liberal women, however ? those conservative women, or Christian women who have been lead into that lie, hook, line, and sinker is evident today.
This kind of attitude even among christian women prevails in the church where the feminist has successfully infiltrated the church.
If you were to even call this out, or even bring it to attention even in church, you are labeled as a woman hater, or a sexist.
Instead of taking the Godly way, God's will and root this feminist infiltration of the church, they embrace it and some how attack the men, the pastor, the message, the bible and God.
This kind of attitude among christian women , or the feminist infiltration and movement needs to be exposed in the church, the body of Christ and taken by it's roots and needs to be eradicated from Christ's body, the church.
180 posted on 10/28/2011 8:44:18 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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