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Blame the Sexual Revolution, Not Men
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2011 | Mona Charen

Posted on 10/28/2011 5:09:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Yikes! She could have been attractive, and I would think a professional photographer could have made these pictures beautiful given her figure and features, but somehow that didn't happen. No one would make fun of any poor guy stuck with her, but no one would envy him either. She looks like a walking case of frostbite.

61 posted on 10/28/2011 6:01:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Tax-chick

“A lot of men believe that, and then a lot of women believe, on their side, that the “winners” are those who can get the cads and players to have sex with them. “

That´s one of the core errors that women make. The hard thing isn´t getting the attractive male to sleep with you (provided that you are yourself moderately attractive), it´s making him stick around.

Needless to say, today´s slut / cad culture makes that a pretty difficult project.


62 posted on 10/28/2011 6:02:35 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: Mamzelle

“6) Watches porn on the internet instead of asking a nice girl out for a coffee.”

Because every time I ask a nice girl out for coffee, she says yes?

More like “no” because she’d rather over-serve me beer and bar food for tips.


63 posted on 10/28/2011 6:03:00 AM PDT by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: spankalib

I agree with you. Government pays people to avoid using good sense and practicing good morals ... and then everyone is Shocked! at the outcome.


64 posted on 10/28/2011 6:03:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You can tell them I just sailed away.)
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To: Kaslin; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Swell article, K. Thanks for posting.

w, s, marriage ping....


65 posted on 10/28/2011 6:04:55 AM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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To: Kaslin

This was all predicted by George Gilder back in 1973. In quite some detail.

http://www.amazon.com/Sexual-suicide-George-F-Gilder/dp/0812903811


66 posted on 10/28/2011 6:05:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh, I didn´t mean to say that you are wrong, I just wanted to add some long-term perspective.

Personally, I´m drawn to Voegelin´s perspective, I.e. that this kind of substituting wishful (albeit illogical) thinking regarding this world for God has been with us for a very long time, and that it follows a rather predictable pattern.


67 posted on 10/28/2011 6:06:17 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: yldstrk

“No values other than “self-actualization” which is a bankrupt ideology.”

Bankrupt with a good enough credit rating to ruin other people’s lives.


68 posted on 10/28/2011 6:06:32 AM PDT by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: globelamp
Beta males, I.e. run-of-the mill men who are not quite adept at navigating the new sexual marketplace (including those poor men who actually buy into the feminist cant).

Needless to say, civilization loses out bigtime. As do most women, as feminism has the side effect of actually diminishing the supply of desirable men for women.

For the last several thousand years, civilization has been supported by the tendency of men to want to have a wife and family, and being willing to work hard to provide for their families. A man who is single and does not see much hope of getting a wife will work just hard enough to furnish himself with food and beer.

This whole thing rested on women NEEDING to have a husband to support and protect her, and not having a choice but to accept the best proposal she seemed likely to get before 30.

69 posted on 10/28/2011 6:06:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: yldstrk

It’s not always sex first. Of course sex does enter into it.

For better or worse women are independent now.
Many women earn more than their husbands.
If they have an argument , there isn’t any financial reason for them to stay so they hit the road.They don’t have to work out their problems.Many don’t even try. At the first sign of trouble they are gone.Many times the sex comes later.


70 posted on 10/28/2011 6:07:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: equaviator

agreed. And the “therapists” love to control other people’s lives.

“Therapy” is a home-wrecker.


71 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:15 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: globelamp

I’ve been married for almost 23 years; call it half my life, give or take a couple of months. I only know about “today’s culture” from reading about it, and if I meet these people in Real Life, I don’t know it. (Maybe my local Walmart is full of total crazies, but they’re acting like perfectly pleasant people, at least to me.)


72 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You can tell them I just sailed away.)
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To: BlueLancer

This is what I have told my children about dating/finding a spouse (to our son and our daughters). First, looks are on the outside. They fade. You may as well marry a poster of someone good looking if that is the primary criteria. Second, find someone who understands the value of marriage. You aren’t just looking for a mate but someone who will father or mother your children. Third, compassion and kindness is a true value of someone. How do they treat their parents? How do they treat another person like a waitress or a person on the street asking for directions? Fourth, do they believe in God and do they live their lives as a good person? Fifth, how do they treat you? If they bully you or ridicule you during the dating period, they will turn into a monster after the marriage.

** In short, I think as a society, we have turned to characteristics like money and physical appearance OVER true human values. If some great gal hasn’t snatched you up yet, Bluelancer, it is just a matter of time!


73 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:46 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, turning the average (and below average) man into a family man is one of the cornerstones of civilization. That cornerstone is now slowly but surely being hacked away at.


74 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:52 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: globelamp
Also, note that the “Alpha” vs. “Beta” distinction in men is largely internal, a matter of outlook and behavior.

Men don't have to be one or the other. I know of "betas" with the big house, 8/10 wife, and nice kids, who turn into "alphas" at happy hour, and hook up with 10/10 women.

For the most part, the wives either don't care, or don't want to know. They're happy with what the beta side of the guy is providing, and will put up with the alpha behavior so long as it doesn't directly interfere.
75 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:57 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: MrB

I know this to be true; my wife is a Prov. 31 woman to the core. Of course, we both had to find ourselves in Christ first . . .


76 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:59 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Venturer

My comments about sex had to do with the social environment where sex sex sex is everything.


77 posted on 10/28/2011 6:10:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TigerClaws

For example, a married woman who hides cheating successfully can get a man on the hook for child support even if the baby isn’t his.)

A cheating wife can get her pissed off, angry husband a pretty good prison sentence when he goes nuts. Have an associate doing time right now.

However, you can’t pay child support while you are in the graybar hotel. That got the woman’s attention.


78 posted on 10/28/2011 6:10:28 AM PDT by wita
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To: Sherman Logan

You are right, Sherman Logan. Money and looks... that is just shallow. Whatever happened to “grow old with me?”


79 posted on 10/28/2011 6:11:17 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Tax-chick

Depends a lot on where you live, I reckon. The old traditions still have a lot of following, but that´s not where the world is headed overall.

Also, note that the upper-crust liberal elite de facto is very conservative in their private lives, I.e. they practice a high degree of monogamy and marriage themselves. All while preaching the virtues of “non-traditional” ways to the proles.


80 posted on 10/28/2011 6:11:47 AM PDT by globelamp
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