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So Much For Small Government (New York Times Masthead Editorial)
New York Times ^ | 10/26.2011 | New York Times Masthead Editorial

Posted on 10/29/2011 8:16:20 AM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Sea Parrot
Yankee hypocrites
21 posted on 10/29/2011 9:23:57 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: goldstategop

“A double-minded man is unstable in ALL his ways.”
James 1:8

Looks like that applies to the New York Fishwrapper as well.


22 posted on 10/29/2011 10:48:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (And we all move a step closer to the One World Utopia -- where all but a few will be slaves.)
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To: eyeamok

Sounds good to me. If a license is a statement of standards then incompatibility different standards could indeed be grounds for denying a comparison.


23 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Crazy ole coot

The 2nd amendment to what Constitution? If it is to the Federal Constitution then the 2nd amendment most clearly does not apply to the States.

We have nether the right nor the prudence to interfere in the Yankees attempts to disarm themselves. I’d rather the Marxist populations that dominate their states be disarmed. If they are willing to do that to themselves I’m not going to stand in the way. Better we have the military advantage to defend liberty and property from their aggression.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 12:31:11 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: goldstategop
Were it me introducing legislation I would go for something simple:

WHEREAS the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution prohibits the infringement of the right of the people to keep and bear arms, the GCA (The Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618) is hereby repealed in its entirety.

Any court, state or federal, citing precedent cases which assume or assert the validity of the GCA in any way shall be charged with violating US Code Title 18, Chapter 13, Section 242 -- "Deprivation of rights under color of law." Further, if it is applicable, the court will be charged with violating US Code Title 18, Chapter 13, Section 241 -- "Conspiracy against rights." This section shall be binding to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.


25 posted on 10/29/2011 12:40:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: goldstategop

The equal protection clause only applies to gay marriage.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 2:37:46 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Monorprise

Each state upon acceptance into the Union agrees to abide by the U.S.Constitution. That includes the God given rights listed in the Bill of Rights. So, yes the states HAVE to abide by the U.S. Constitution.

The States Rights issue does not include any of the Bill Of Rights!


27 posted on 10/29/2011 5:41:59 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the Whitehouse) is NOT a Natural Born Citizen!!)
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To: Crazy ole coot

“Each state upon acceptance into the Union agrees to abide by the U.S.Constitution. That includes the God given rights listed in the Bill of Rights. So, yes the states HAVE to abide by the U.S. Constitution.

The States Rights issue does not include any of the Bill Of Rights!”

Read the preamble of the so called “bill of rights” they were instituted to protect the people and their States from the Federal Goverment not the people and their states from themselves.

To assume otherwise is not only historic blasphemy its dangerously develing into the domain of Federal imposition which of course never end. You should know from our own history the minute the Feds started seeing the BOR as imposition on the States that opened the door for every evil from banning religion to roe vs. wade.

No, if the people of New York want to be disarmed pawns of their goverment that is their business. It makes no sense for any people any where to ratify a federal Constitution to protect to restrict their domestic freedom.

We have separate State Constitutions which are just as good & binding to protect us from our State, and we don’t have to compromise that with people living a 1000 miles away. Best of all if something does goes horribly wrong we can vote as individuals with our feet.

There is no rational, nor benefit to having the Federal Goverment dictate to our States anything beyond letting us leave to other states.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 1:05:06 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Sorry that you are so confused, but the Bill of Rights are just acknowledging our God Given Rights and are not being conferred upon the people or states. What God has given us, the states or Feds cannot restrict.

Thanks for playing, but you are wrong. The Bill Of Rights applies to the States as well as the Federal Government!!

I have a God given right to bear arms and the states nor the Federal govenment are not allowed to infringe on that right.


29 posted on 10/31/2011 8:46:29 AM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the Whitehouse) just where were you really born??)
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To: Crazy ole coot

“Sorry that you are so confused, but the Bill of Rights are just acknowledging our God Given Rights and are not being conferred upon the people or states. What God has given us, the states or Feds cannot restrict.”

In that case I would like to assert my God Given right to not pay taxes, or my God given right take whatever I want.

God is no-doubt the origin of all of right, but in our constitution we cede a small & defined portion of them rights to the state for the protection of our remaining God given rights.

We do this by means of a Constitution for each respective Goverment Federal and State.

We did not cede our right to form state Governments as we see fit to the Federal Goverment in the “bill of right”. Nor did we attempt to define all of our God Given rights in the federal Constitution this is why we have the 9th amendments.

Such an enumeration would be imposable and would still not preclude us from ceding them same rights in anther Constitution to our State Governments.


“Thanks for playing, but you are wrong. The Bill Of Rights applies to the States as well as the Federal Government!!”

You know I find it annoying when liberals issue this arrogant line declaring victory out of thin air, I wonder if that’s why they do it? They cant possibly beleive they have defended their position with ridiculously easy to debunk falsehoods?


“I have a God given right to bear arms and the states nor the Federal govenment are not allowed to infringe on that right.”

They are if you so cede that right to them. Likewise you could also cede the same right to someone else via contract. A common example is private businesses where arms are forbidden.


30 posted on 10/31/2011 1:33:55 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

This will be my last response on this subject. I can read The Constitution and DO understand it. I have not ceded any of my Rights to the Government, state or fed. The Bill of Rights apply to the states as much as to the fed. I do not see an Amendment granting any government the authority to deny an American citizen the Right to keep and bear arms. The only thing I see is where it says that that right may not be infringed upon.

Im’ sorry if you libs cannot understand that or like it.


31 posted on 10/31/2011 1:46:03 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the White House) are you a Natural Born Citizen?? Prove it!!)
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