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ICE blamed for Texas parolee law delay
Houston Chronicle ^ | October 29, 2011 | SUSAN CARROLL

Posted on 10/29/2011 11:55:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The state has been unable to enforce a new law designed to increase the deportations of illegal immigrants from the Texas prison system amid concerns that federal immigration officials are unprepared to handle the anticipated influx of convicted criminals, state officials said.

Under the new law, which was scheduled to take effect Sept. 1, state prisoners who are granted parole and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials must either be deported or leave the country voluntarily - or risk being returned to state custody to serve out the remainder of their sentences.

The law was crafted to address a vexing problem identified by the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, which reported granting parole to some illegal immigrants and turning them over to ICE - only to later learn that they were not removed from the country, said state Rep. Jerry Madden, R-Plano.

...ICE union officials said part of the problem lies in a shortage of immigration judges assigned to hear cases in Huntsville. The immigration court system is run by a separate agency, the Executive Office for Immigration Review, which declined comment on Thursday.

Rissie Owens, chair of the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, said that unless ICE has finished its removal proceedings, board members can't be sure that "those they vote to release are actually deported and not released into our communities where they may be a threat to pubic safety."

ICE data shows that roughly one in five of the 5,000 illegal immigrants discharged annually lacks a final removal order clearing the way for deportation.

...Under the new state law, ICE can no longer release detainees with criminal convictions, and instead must either remove them from the country, house them in its own federal detention system or return them to the custody of TDCJ.

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1 posted on 10/29/2011 11:55:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield
Rick Perry: ...."We’re not going to compromise with our national security. And that is true when it comes to defense spending and when it comes to border security. And let me say this about border security. I have lived and breathed this issue for over a decade as a border governor. I’ve signed budgets that contained a total of $400 million dollars of state security operations along that border. I’ve dealt with the carnage caused by those who traffic in drugs, weapons and people. As border governor, I know first hand the failures of our federal border policies and I know the answers to those failures is not to grant amnesty to those who broke the laws to come into this country.

I was proud to sign legislation requiring a photo voter ID to vote in order to protect the integrity of our elections. And for the obvious security reasons, I vetoed legislation to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens. There is no homeland security without border security. Let me repeat that, there is no security without border security. And make no mistake about it, what we are seeing south of our border is nothing short of a war being waged by these narco-terrorists. They represent a clear and a present danger to our country - they are spreading violence to American cities; they are peddling poisons to our children. In the face of this threat, we shouldn’t take any operations off the table, including security operations in cooperation with the Mexican government, as we did with Columbia some years ago. You can’t have liberty - you can’t have opportunity - you can’t have prosperity, without security."...... [Values Voters Summit -- Oct 7, 2011]

2 posted on 10/29/2011 11:56:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Your attempts to resurrect the Perry campaign are futile when you factor in...

Fully 69% of Americans in the latest IBD/TIPP poll say they don’t favor states giving in-state college tuition to illegal residents while charging higher fees for legal, out-of-state residents. Just 22% support such a policy.

73% of Republicans are opposed vs. 20% in favor.

Independents have even stronger views: 74%-15%. Even Democrats are strongly opposed 58%-32%.

In fact, a majority of every major subgroup opposes giving illegals in-state tuition rates — men and women, rich and poor, urban and rural. Hispanics, who have more conflicted views over illegal immigration than is commonly known, are opposed, 54%-28%. Blacks, who often see illegal immigrants as rivals for jobs, are the most opposed, 80%-12%.

And Perry told them the had no heart because they dared to disagree with him. That was really, really stupid.

3 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:19 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
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5 posted on 10/29/2011 12:27:29 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: South40
Your attempts to resurrect the Perry campaign are futile when you factor in..

If you truly believed that you wouldn't hit every thread and call up your anti-Perry posse to join the pile on pissing party.

6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:28 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wonder if states could impose voluntarily leaving the US as a *condition* for parole? As with the Arizona program, where voluntary deportees get a free flight to Mexico City, it takes both the federal government and involuntary deportation off the table.


7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:11 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When is Rick going to man up and be accountable for wet nursing illegals instead of throwing blame at every turn like a whiny little punk?


8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:17 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If you truly believed that you wouldn't hit every thread and call up your anti-Perry posse to join the pile on pissing party.

lol! Pissing party? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I truly believe RINO Rick Perry's campaign is history. That doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't enjoy watching him flounder like a fish out of water in his vain attempt to regain the support he pushed away when he called them heartless.

I do thank you for the entertainment you are providing, though. It is quite laudable.

Oh, and I don't "hit every thread". I may hit many but not "every". I would be happy to if you would ping me to them. :-)

9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:36:15 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: South40; TADSLOS; Condor51; stephenjohnbanker
I truly believe RINO Rick Perry's campaign is history....all of us enjoy watching him flounder like a fish out of water in his vain attempt to regain his footing after he stupidly villified the very people he needs to vote for him.........

How low does he have to go? He was dead last in one poll.

When's he gonna man up---and get the message voters are sending?

He should go back to Texas and hug a few illegals.

10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:53:34 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz
How low does he have to go? He was dead last in one poll.
When's he gonna man up---and get the message voters are sending?

As long as he is spending other peoples' money (something he is good at) he will stay in. And as long as he's going after the other RINO in the race, Mitt Romney, I think he should. But when he goes after Herman Cain, the only man standing between Romney and the Republican nomination then it is time for Ricardo to pack it in. I really don't think he is that smart, though. He does come across as being one of the least intelligent candidates in the field.

11 posted on 10/29/2011 1:00:38 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: Liz; South40; TADSLOS; stephenjohnbanker; Cincinatus' Wife
LOL. I REALLY like this in post #6.
... and call up your anti-Perry posse to join the pile on pissing party.

Bur 'series', that posting is kind of funny. However the way Perry is going -- or actually NOT going -- I think it's time we start getting the Whaaambulances ready for the Perrybots.
(I wonder what kind of Cheese they'd like with their WHINES)

12 posted on 10/29/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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13 posted on 10/29/2011 1:37:48 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It would be nice if people were able to discuss the article rather then come on here and act like High Schoolers every time the word Texas comes up in a headline.


14 posted on 10/29/2011 1:44:25 PM PDT by linn37
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To: linn37; Cincinatus' Wife
Amen to that, linn. And I think CW's "pissing party" description was right on.

Perry is not going to quit, so go blow smoke up another candidates thread.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 3:07:33 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: linn37; Cincinatus' Wife
That comment "Perry is not going to quit, so go blow smoke up another candidates thread." was for those you two were addressing - not the two of you.

The two of you are great and right on.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Condor51

ROTF!


17 posted on 10/30/2011 5:09:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Liz; South40; TADSLOS; Condor51

” How low does he have to go? He was dead last in one poll.

When’s he gonna man up-—and get the message voters are sending?

He should go back to Texas and hug a few illegals. “

Ricky is too vain to quit apparently. He’s so vain, he probably thinks this thread is about him : )


18 posted on 10/30/2011 5:13:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Ricky is too vain to quit apparently.
He’s so vain, he probably thinks this thread is about him
...............


You owe me a keyboard. Plus, now I have Coca-Cola coming out of my nose.

19 posted on 10/30/2011 6:31:36 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Liz
HAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Any day gets better with a Carly Simon slam. Almost better than being Rick Rolled... which is what the remaining 7% who are pulling for this fool are getting from Texas Ricky.

Have you noticed how Perry is pulling a page from Obama's book? He's blaming everyone else BUT himself! Illegals in Texas? Feds fault. Affirmative action for illegals? State's Rights. Parolee delay? ICE. Gardasil? 'I hate cancer'.

20 posted on 10/30/2011 6:37:08 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; South40; TADSLOS; Condor51; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; indylindy; cripplecreek; ...
Ricky won't quit the race (voluntarily)-----he's too vain to admit defeat........

Yeah---vote-crazed Rick's living on hope---plus Mexico's promise to fix the election for him in exchange for billions in foreign aid from a (gag) Perry WH.

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The self-absorbed powermongering dud may not quit of his own volition....but voters are showing him the door whenever they get the chance.

Whoever thought up Rick's newest ploy---avoid debates at all costs---is looking at a quick trip out of campaign hdq, as well.

Kinda reminds me of the losing 2008 strategy used by Ricky's pal and business partner----Rooty Giuliani----who is in the same mold as La Raza Rick---maybe even moldier (/sarc).

Rooty was on all fours, all puckered up, sucking away at hyphenated voting blocs and declaring he was not going to enter early primaries and caucuses-----AT THE SAME TIME Giuli entered and lost every single one held.

Giuli said he was "saving himself" for Florida----so he campaigned there 63 days straight and came in a distant third.

Ricky, like Rooty, forgot you have to have delegates to stay in the game. Rooty spent millions----and was forced out b/c he had no delegates.

21 posted on 10/30/2011 6:47:50 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: rintense; stephenjohnbanker; Condor51; South40; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; rabscuttle385
Perry insists he's a "real conservative"....... but blaming everyone else but himself for his serial gaffes is straight out of the Liberal Playbook.

La Raza Rick won't take responsibility.

Illegals in Texas? Feds fault.

Affirmative action for illegals? State's Rights.

In-state tuition? His unbigoted heart is in the right place.

Parolee delay? ICE.

Gardasil EO? Merck Big Buck contributions made him do it.

22 posted on 10/30/2011 6:59:38 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Condor51; rintense

” now I have Coca-Cola coming out of my nose. “

Been there, done that....Hertz, don’t it ?

: )


23 posted on 10/30/2011 7:06:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rintense; Condor51; South40; TADSLOS; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; indylindy; cripplecreek

” Have you noticed how Perry is pulling a page from Obama’s book? He’s blaming everyone else BUT himself! Illegals in Texas? Feds fault. Affirmative action for illegals? State’s Rights. Parolee delay? ICE. Gardasil? ‘I hate cancer’. “

Oh HECK yeah, I noticed : )


24 posted on 10/30/2011 7:08:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rintense
Have you noticed how Perry is pulling a page from Obama's book? He's blaming everyone else BUT himself! ... Gardasil? 'I hate cancer'.

Really? So if I said I support the chicken pox vaccine because I hate red itchy bumps, am I blaming someone else? I'll give you the other examples, but really you hurt your credibility with something like this.
25 posted on 10/30/2011 7:13:08 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
Oh please. Even Perry himself admitted in August he didn't do enough research on it. Spare me the righteous indignation.

This is just another nanny state overreaction, period.

26 posted on 10/30/2011 7:15:32 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

He’s pulling a lot of pages from the Obama book.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 7:18:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: rintense
Spare me the righteous indignation.

You're projecting. I simply pointed out that saying "I hate cancer" isn't blaming someone else. You were wrong.

This is just another nanny state overreaction, period.

So how do you feel about the Hep B vaccine?
28 posted on 10/30/2011 7:19:14 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
Perry's reasoning of 'I hate cancer' is nanny state alarmism at it's finest. And by using other vaccinations as justification is the same old liberal tactic.

Not falling for it. But its a shame you have.

Instead of going after those who oppose your boy, why don't you go after Ricky for enacting a knee-jerk law, and then admitting didn't do enough research? Why don't you ask him to repeal the law?

29 posted on 10/30/2011 7:24:21 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

I’ll take your post as an admission that saying “I hate cancer” is not blaming others.


30 posted on 10/30/2011 7:36:17 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

‘I hate cancer’ is blaming cancer for a stupid decision. Get it? Good.


31 posted on 10/30/2011 7:44:53 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Your logic is pathetic. Saying I hate cancer to support a decision is not blaming others for my decision, any more than saying I hate wealth redistribution as a justification for tax cuts blames others.

Get it? Good.


32 posted on 10/30/2011 7:50:09 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Riiight. Keep projecting, Sparky. And keep supporting nanny state, alarmist liberal tactics. I’ll support conservatism EVERY TIME.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 7:56:27 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

BWAHAHAHA! Now you’re just silly. I’ll explain this slowly. Saying “I need to give instate tuition to illegals because of ICE” is blaming others. Saying “I support vaccines to prevent cancer” is not blaming others, any more than saying I support tax cuts because I dislike wealth redistribution blames others. If you can’t make the distinction and admit you’re wrong, we’re done. I don’t waste time with people unable to admit they or their preferred candidate is wrong.


34 posted on 10/30/2011 8:04:17 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Which is why you’re sticking your head in the sand for Perry??? HAHAHAHAHAHAA. You’re pathetic. You can’t tell the difference between conservatism and nanny state liberalism. How sad for you.


35 posted on 10/30/2011 8:59:28 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
You argue like a liberal. When confronted with your own error, you change the subject while pretending you were right all along.

Your original point was that Perry blames others for his decisions. I agreed that blaming ICE or fed gov for his immigration decisions is blaming others. But no rational person can say "I hate cancer" is blaming others for the Gardisil decision. Your claim is ridiculous, no different than claiming that support for the chicken pox vaccine because of a dislike of itchy red bumps is blaming others.

When faced with your error, you then changed the subject and started arguing that it was nanny-state liberalism as if that was your point all along. It wasn't, and don't try to pretend it was.
36 posted on 10/30/2011 10:25:43 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
Laughable, considering you're supporting a man who governs as a nanny stater. Playing on people's fears (cancer) is the lowest of the low, and straight out of the liberal playbook. If Obama did this, you'd be screaming your head off, and you know it.

Why don't you explain to all the conservatives here what exactly is conservative about mandating gardasil.

37 posted on 10/30/2011 11:07:18 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

I’m having trouble keeping track. First it was preventing cancer is blaming others. Then it was preventing cancer is nanny-statism. Now preventing cancer is playing on people’s fears. Thank you for once again proving that your original point was incorrect and you can’t defend it.


38 posted on 10/30/2011 11:11:22 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
I hate cancer and that’s what this has always been about for me. I made a mistake in the way that I took this forward,” he said. “But nothing’s changed in my life from the standpoint of giving people the opportunity to conquer a disease that is impacting so many people in our country.” ~ Rick Perry

IOW, I'm stupid for not researching it, but you're heartless and must like cancer if you oppose the law.

39 posted on 10/30/2011 11:12:12 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Thank you for once again proving that Perry’s decision had nothing to do with BLAMING OTHERS, which was the whole point of your original post.


40 posted on 10/30/2011 11:14:25 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Wow are you thick. Let me give it to you in simple terms: He mandated gardasil because HE hates cancer.


41 posted on 10/30/2011 12:55:22 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Exactly. Perry mandated Gardasil because he hates cancer. You’ve provided definitive proof that your original statement is false. He clearly doesn’t blame others for that decision. Thanks for the help proving your original statement wrong.


42 posted on 10/30/2011 1:56:23 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Keep telling yourself that.


43 posted on 10/30/2011 4:44:28 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
Thank you. I will keep telling myself that:

"I hate cancer" is not "blaming others" when justifying the HPV vaccine.
"I hate muscle paralysis, deformities, and death" is not "blaming others" when justifying the polio vaccine.
"I hate liver cirrhosis and liver failure" is not "blaming others" when justifying the hep B vaccine.
"I hate brain damage and paralysis" is not "blaming others" when justifying the meningitis vaccine.

I could continue, but you (probably) get the point. You've set such a high standard that virtually anything Perry said about the HPV vaccine would be "blaming others." If you had simply said you dislike Perry and nothing he said justifying the HPV mandate would work for you, you would at least have been honest.
44 posted on 10/30/2011 5:33:29 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Please tell me what is conservative about mandating gardasil.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 5:39:44 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

You mean let’s change the subject and stop talking about your silly original post that said saying “I hate cancer” is blaming others? I’ll be happy to change the subject if you’re willing to admit you were wrong and that saying “I hate cancer” really is justification for the HPV vaccine that requires no “blaming others.” Like I said, I have no interest in discussing anything with someone who believes that they and their preferred candidate can do no wrong.


46 posted on 10/30/2011 5:45:49 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
If you can't find a conservative position as to why Perry mandated gardasil, it falls on Perry's words- which goes back to 'I hate cancer'. So, either Perry made the decision based on a conservative principle (and we know he didn't), or, he used his own personal hated of cancer as the excuse, thus, making cancer the scapegoat.

I stand by my original post that Perry blames everyone else (and everything) for his bad decisions.

47 posted on 10/30/2011 6:00:26 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

If “I hate cancer” is “blaming others,” then there is no justification that could possibly be given for any vaccine that would fall outside of “blaming others.” Like I said, you’ve defined “blaming others” so broadly that nothing Perry said would fall outside of your predefined position. Which would be fine, if you hadn’t tried to hide your predisposition in a claim of somehow finding a character flaw in Perry.


48 posted on 10/30/2011 6:09:49 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg

Perry has many character flaws, placing blame everywhere except where it belongs is only one of them.


49 posted on 10/30/2011 6:41:14 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

So justify any vaccine for any disease if trying to defeat the complication from that disease is “blaming others”.


50 posted on 10/30/2011 7:11:04 PM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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