Islam or Islamist? Is our trouble with a religion or an ideology?

National Review ^ | 10/28/2011 | Andrew McCarthy

[oh8eleven]

[HighlyOpinionated]

Our problem is that we’re ignorant of the McCarran Act and no one is enforcing it.

Basically, it states that a person can ‘believe’ anything he wishes, but he cannot act out those beliefs if it’s against the laws of the land.

IE a person can believe in cannibalism, but he cannot kill and eat people because it’s against the law. A person can believe in honor killings, forced marriages, rape as a form of disciple, but he cannot practice them because they’re all against the law in the United States .... at least until we come under Sharia Law.

[Tribune7]

I think he's saying that a Muslim who drinks beer and has a dog might be OK.

[ronnie raygun]

Isalm is not a religion it is a murderous cult, there I fixed it!

[onedoug]

I have an Encyclopedia Britannica 1970 that I wish I would have read the entry for from ¨Pan-Islamism¨ prior to 9/11. They had these bastards pegged.

[umgud]

The problem as I see it is that the main difference between radical muslims and so called moderate muslims is that the radicals act on what they are taught. Moderates and radicals are taught the same things.

[Travis McGee]

Radical islam is an insane murder cult; moderate islam is its trojan horse.

Radical islam is real islam. Watch the so-called "moderates" scurry to the shadows when the head-chopping begins. The head-choppers always brush the "moderates" aside once they have sufficient numbers in place in any society.

"Moderate" islam is simply islam in stealth-mode, using the ancient playbook to infiltrate their target societies. This has been the pattern for 1,400 years, and ignorance of history will not excuse anyone from suffering the consequences.

[mosesdapoet]

Here is the problem and it is both theological and ideological...http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm

[MestaMachine]

If you practice and/or agree with communism, you are a freaking communist. If you practice or agree with islam, you are an islamist. Period. There are no degrees of separation except what you might call yourself for public consumption.

[A_perfect_lady]

I think any religion or ideology has the potential to go either way, it depends on the hand that holds it. Like a gun. In the hands of someone who only wants it for self-defense, it's one thing. In the hands of someone who wants what you have, it's another. Any religion, if used only for guidance of self, is probably harmless enough. It's when you decide that you're going to make other people live under it too that it turns lethal. The problem isn't weapons, politics, or religion. The problem is PEOPLE.

That said, some ideologies attract dangerous people, and Islam seems to be one of them. It's the sawed-off-shotgun in my metaphorical armory.

[Netizen]

The theocracy.

[Travis McGee]

The problem is that even "fallen" muslims are extremely dangerous, because Mad Mo cleverly inserted the "kill infidels and get 72 virgins" clause into his insane pseudo-relition.

Take for example the Air Egypt crash. A typical secular-appearing, "westernized" pilot is being sent home to face the music on some minor scandal. Instead, he dives a jetliner into the ocean, killing 100s.

And ANY muslim might decide on the sudden jihad option, at any time. A lifetime of drinking and whoring is automatically excused by committing jihad murder.

[airborne]

The cult.

[56newblog]

Thanks for the info on the McCarran Act..

I was never aware that existed.. It is “common sense” act (law)for a civilized nation.

I will google it and read the info..

[nuconvert]

McCarthy is right > Spencer is wrong

[DJ MacWoW]

"I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear". - Barack Obama

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[Tribune7]

A lifetime of drinking and whoring is automatically excused by committing jihad murder.

That's true, Trav, but the having-the-pet-dog thing might be a sticker.

I basically agree with you. Islam is the largest kool-aid cult in the world.

It has evil values.

If we don't address it on the terms that the values it espouses are wrong we are in for a lot of misery.

[Rudder]

Religion or ideology?

Yes.

[OldSmaj]

And while a bunch of flipping idiot-scholars are arguing over just what to call a bunch of murdering, chauvinistic, egotistical, low-life, goat-loving, cave-dwelling pieces of human excrement, the afore-described pustules on the buttocks of society continue to kill and maim in the name of a god and his so-called pedophile "prophet" that has never existed as the afore-described particles of dog excrement wish that he had.

How much longer and how many more lives lost before we eliminate the plague that islam is?

And there is no, I repeat NO, such thing as a good moderate muslim.

I have no use for scholarly discussion of this crap.

Rather, let's discuss ways to eliminate it.

Once we have eliminated it, then we can argue over what to call it.