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Teen dies in accident; was texting while driving [drove into tree]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | November 2, 2011

Posted on 11/02/2011 4:53:12 AM PDT by grundle

A teenage girl died Tuesday night in a one-vehicle accident in Butler County that state police said involved texting while driving.

Alexis Summers, 17, of Saxonburg, was killed when the 2003 Subaru Legacy she was driving hit a tree after 10 p.m. off Hannastown Road in Jefferson.

Her vehicle veered to the right berm of the roadway and onto a slight grass embankment, police said. Ms. Summers then apparently overcompensated while steering back onto the road. Her car spun around and hit the tree. She was pronounced dead at the scene by the Butler County deputy coroner.

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1 posted on 11/02/2011 4:53:12 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

How tragic.

Pennsylvania is in the process of passing a law making texting while driving a primary offense, meaning a police officer can stop you for that in itself.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 4:56:49 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: grundle

Fortunately she did not take someone else with her or maime them for life either.


3 posted on 11/02/2011 5:01:24 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: swpa_mom
Pennsylvania is in the process of passing a law making texting while driving a primary offense, meaning a police officer can stop you for that in itself.

Good. Another law. I'm sure it will help a lot.

4 posted on 11/02/2011 5:01:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at for no additional charge...)
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To: Mouton

Agreed.


5 posted on 11/02/2011 5:02:11 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at for no additional charge...)
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To: grundle

“OMG”

Cue Mayhem commercial...


6 posted on 11/02/2011 5:05:17 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: grundle

There have been several deaths here in my locla arae, the past 2 years, just from what I remember reading.

Teens texting while driving. God help her family, it is going to be forever.


7 posted on 11/02/2011 5:08:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Mouton; WayneS

Yes, when a teenager dies from doing something foolish, let’s always look at the bright side

So helpful to those who have lost a child when helpful “well it could have been worse” remarks are made


8 posted on 11/02/2011 5:09:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: swpa_mom
Pennsylvania is in the process of passing a law making texting while driving a primary offense, meaning a police officer can stop you for that in itself.

What a stupid law. You can't legislate common sense. Does anyone with more than two functional brain cells think that a law agaisnt texting would have made any difference? It's very sad to see a young life cut short, but there are consequences to actions, and if you're stupid enough to text while driving then you might have to pay the consequences. a number of years ago I was driving along the expressway one lane to the right of the leftmost lane. A car full of young women - teen looking - passed me and I noticed that the driver was turned around to talk to the ones in the back. About half a mile down the road she veered into the concrete divider wall and sent a fine shower of sparks and debris for the rest of us to avoid. I doubt anyone was seriously hurt, but the car was in pretty bad shape. Problem is that teens (and others too for that matter) don't know when it's time to stop talking and pay attention to what they're doing.

9 posted on 11/02/2011 5:11:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: silverleaf

I don’t recall stating that I was trying to be helpful to anyone.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 5:13:25 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at for no additional charge...)
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To: silverleaf

It can be comforting to know that your family member didn’t harm anyone else.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 5:15:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: from occupied ga
It's very sad to see a young life cut short, but there are consequences to actions, and if you're stupid enough to text while driving then you might have to pay the consequences.

I should warn you, the use of common sense and/or references to personal responsibility may not be welcome on this thread.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at for no additional charge...)
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To: Mouton

A few years ago, a high-school girl killed herself and three of her friends when she drove off the road while texting, in my Upstate NY county.


13 posted on 11/02/2011 5:16:36 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: mewzilla

let me know about that comforting thought when the police come to your door and tell your child is dead

thankfully most parents in mourning do not get exposed to forums like this and comments about stupid is as stupid does are made in whispers and behind their backs

speaking of brain cells
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124119468


14 posted on 11/02/2011 5:18:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: grundle

Very, very sad story. The parents will never fully recover from their loss of a child. Teens and texting (especially teen girls) is rampant. As a Mom with a son who is about to take driving lessons.... so much to fear. Prayers for the family.


15 posted on 11/02/2011 5:19:37 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: grundle

Another zero scored on a self administered IQ test.

The Pennsylvania legislature should pass a law mandating the use of Common Sense.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 5:19:39 AM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government's footprint!)
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To: silverleaf

I stand by what I said.


17 posted on 11/02/2011 5:19:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: grundle

Whenever I’m on the roads, I always notice at least one driver who his texting and driving. If I can see ‘em, a cop can too. Write ‘em up, and maybe they’ll learn before they hurt or kill someone.


18 posted on 11/02/2011 5:21:03 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: WayneS
I should warn you, the use of common sense and/or references to personal responsibility may not be welcome on this thread.

And many other threads these days. It seems that FR is attracting more sanctimonious hand wringers than ever. I guess they're "compassionate conservatives."

19 posted on 11/02/2011 5:21:23 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: grundle

Tragic. For you and yours - no doubt others have other advice but over-correction can be disastrous almost by definition.

If you do drift off onto the shoulder just let off the gas, do not brake (unless obviously necessary eg large tree, deep canyon then brake carefully), keep the vehicle following the basic road path and when safe either pull over or back up onto the roadway.

Yanking hard back onto the road can cause rollovers, spin-outs or worse, careening into on-coming traffic.

For what its worth ...


20 posted on 11/02/2011 5:25:16 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: swpa_mom
"Pennsylvania is in the process of passing a law making texting while driving a primary offense, meaning a police officer can stop you for that in itself."

Agree that texting while driving is a very bad idea, but where do you draw the line and stop passing more new laws?


21 posted on 11/02/2011 5:27:26 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: momtothree
Teens and texting (especially teen girls) is rampant. As a Mom with a son who is about to take driving lessons.... so much to fear.

Not having a cell phone or other texting-enabled thingie reduces the risk of this particular error.

22 posted on 11/02/2011 5:30:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: grundle

A must see for every young driver.

AT&T Don’t Text While Driving Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebhWD6ljZs
AT&T’s Txtng & Drivng Campaign Urges Consumers That ‘It Can Wait. This documentary featuring families affected by texting while behind the wheel is being distributed to educators, government officials, safety organizations and public as part of a educational awareness campaign.


23 posted on 11/02/2011 5:32:01 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: Wolfie

It is naive to think that cops will stop someone for texting and write them a ticket. The only way to stop the foolishness of texting and/or talking on the phone while driving is to make the phones inoperable if traveling at any speed greater than 1 to 2 mph. The technology exists, it is just not used because no one would willfully buy into it. The kid is just another Darwin candidate sorry to say.


24 posted on 11/02/2011 5:32:29 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: silverleaf

25 posted on 11/02/2011 5:34:10 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: Tunehead54

I just feel sorry for the tree. It takes a long time to grow a tree. The parents should have known or probably knew that their kid was texting while driving. There needs to be a little more chlorine added to the gene pool. At least the kid didn’t hurt anyone else when they were being stupid. They won’t do it again.


26 posted on 11/02/2011 5:35:56 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Tax-chick

“... not having a cell phone... reduces the risk...”

I agree BUT what if you teen needs to call 911 or you for help? A lot of horrible things can happen out there (especially to a pretty teen girl). I guess a parent need to enforce “no texting or cell phone operation” while driving and really, really enforce it. By enforce, I mean threaten them with removal of the license if they are caught texting or talking on the phone. As a parent, I’d rather be seen as a total witch than a friend or pal.


27 posted on 11/02/2011 5:37:14 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: WayneS

—Good. Another law. I’m sure it will help a lot.—

I use my old Fender Mytouch as an “iPod” in my car now. I was trying to mess with the controls to get the right song list and had to pull over. If I lived in a state where texting is illegal and had actually caused an accident. I would have been doing nothing illegal, but what I was doing was every bit as dangerous.

Like you said, another law, I’m sure it will help.

That said, it may actually prevent some of this texting and it may save someone in an oncoming car. I’m very much against helmet laws, but you do notice that people rarely wear them where they are not required. I think the same would happen here. But, unlike helmet laws this law is not so much to protect you from yourself. Rather, it is to protect other people from you.


28 posted on 11/02/2011 5:37:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: TSgt

A better solution for the problem is a device that the technology for already exists.
A phone signal scrambler that turns on when the vehicle is in motion. Scrambles signal, phone no worky!
Stop car and the signal returns. Problem resolved.
The reason they will not do this?
Money. The phone companies want the cash generated by texts and talk time.


29 posted on 11/02/2011 5:37:43 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: Tax-chick

“Clamshell” phone with 10 numbers and a couple of menu buttons - it’s all I have, and all any “teen” under my charge will have until they are living on their own.


30 posted on 11/02/2011 5:41:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: silverleaf
Whats with the high horse? I know someone who DID lose a teenager to drunken driving. The kid was involved in a two car accident, he died, but the driver of the other car was not seriously injured. When the parents told me the story, they specifically said they were grateful that the other passenger did not get hurt. That would have been even harder to live with.

So take that for what its worth.

31 posted on 11/02/2011 5:42:50 AM PDT by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: from occupied ga

“... FR is attracting more sanctimonious hand wringer than ever”

I don’t understand what this means? If someone states that it is sad that a 17 year old girl is dead... are they a hand wringer? Is viewing the loss of a young person “over the top”? The day that FR as a whole laughs or high-five’s when a child is killed... we’re done. Teens do stupid things. Heck, five year olds do stupid things. When they do something immature or stupid and DIE... it is still a loss to their parents.


32 posted on 11/02/2011 5:43:48 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: from occupied ga
You can't legislate common sense. Does anyone with more than two functional brain cells think that a law agaisnt texting would have made any difference?

Sure you can. For example; tough drunken driving laws make a huge difference...it practically killed the nightclub business. It didn't stop all drunks, but it got the attention of otherwise responsible people.

if you're stupid enough to text while driving then you might have to pay the consequences.

Which, if it is a thousand dollar fine, is a lot less serious than getting killed or killing someone else. Some jail time wouldn't bother me one bit.

33 posted on 11/02/2011 5:43:51 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: 9422WMR

MOst newer cars have bluetooth setups that allow hands free operation of the phone — both calls and text. MY Hyundai will allow me to text message through voice activated commands.


34 posted on 11/02/2011 5:46:01 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Sooth2222
I agree that all “distracted driving” is bad, however, the amount of lives being lost to this modern phenomenon is alarming to say the least. I dont know...I dont believe this is a personal liberty issue as much as it is a public safety one. It is illegal to consume certain levels of alcohol/drugs as they may alter perception and judgment to a point that endangers your safety and the safety of others while operating a motor vehicle, how is this different? Again, I know that all distracted driving creates a potential danger, but they just are not finding many open road maps or lipsticks beside victims of motor vehicle accidents these days.
35 posted on 11/02/2011 5:46:13 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: grundle
I was at a Rite Aid drug store last night to get scripts for my bad flu, and a prescription a dropped off at 10:00AM was still not filled when I got there at 8:00PM. They apologized and explained how they were sooooo busy they didn't get to it.

I then observed that two of the three pharmacy techs who fill prescriptions were actually texting messages in chat with other people on their cell phones. They had them placed immediately beside the keyboards of their computer terminals. To a casual looker, they just seemed to be doing their computer work. The two techs filled two prescriptions in thirty minutes combined. One managed to down a bag of nut cluster granola and a soda while texting and filling a script combined with picking her nose several times.

Of course Rite Aid has a fifteen minute fill guarantee which I did not ask for the reward, but they just give to everyone as a five dollar store credit for the wait. It's not pro-rated for the ten hours though.

We're all doomed.

36 posted on 11/02/2011 5:48:25 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: momtothree
I don’t understand what this means? If someone states that it is sad that a 17 year old girl is dead... are they a hand wringer?

You missed the context here. The post was about someone jumping on a poster who said that it was good she did not kill or maim anyone else. The poster who said that said it was a shame she died.

37 posted on 11/02/2011 5:48:50 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Tax-chick

AMEN! Or, if you are under 25 years of age, the cell phone (like an unsealed booze bottle)out of the drivers compartment of a vehicle.


38 posted on 11/02/2011 5:49:33 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: 9422WMR

Signal scramblers are illegal and what about non-driving passengers?

A better solution would be to require all cars manufacturers to provide hands free integrated radio systems that facilitate calls but not texts.

Or voice to text messages, my phone already does this but then again why not just call the person? LOL!


39 posted on 11/02/2011 5:50:15 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: grundle

BFF has some real meaning now huh?


40 posted on 11/02/2011 5:50:56 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TheGunny

Many inexperienced and some experienced drivers are involved in accidents where they overcompensate when they drive off the edge of the road.

It is so simple just to drive down the edge and come back on the road slowly.

Inexperience was a major factor here as well as texting.


41 posted on 11/02/2011 5:52:31 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: momtothree
A lot of horrible things can happen out there (especially to a pretty teen girl).

Yes, but very few of them do, especially if the girl avoids acting like a total idiot. For most users of any age, the cell phone is purely a convenience, not a necessity for safety.

42 posted on 11/02/2011 5:58:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: Sooth2222

A police officer can already pull you over and ticket you for any of those idiot maneuvers, its called careless driving.

You might try and fight it in court, but there’s a better than average chance the judge will agree with the cop.


43 posted on 11/02/2011 5:59:12 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: toolman1401
"The parents should have known or probably knew that their kid was texting while driving. There needs to be a little more chlorine added to the gene pool."

You're an ass.

44 posted on 11/02/2011 6:00:55 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MrB

If one of our children is going to need a phone, to call us when it’s time to pick him up, for example, I let him carry mine. This is a very rare occurrence, since they’re usually at events - Boy Scouts, church youth meetings - with plenty of adults who have phones they can use to call us.


45 posted on 11/02/2011 6:01:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: TheGunny

In the trunk, for example.


46 posted on 11/02/2011 6:03:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: blackdog

Is it soda, pop, soda pop? Just asking.


47 posted on 11/02/2011 6:04:32 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Venturer
Sure it was (experience a factor), but I fear you are missing the point. This is mostly taking the lives of the inexperienced. Following your logic to its natural end we should allow folks to set limits on their personal consumption of alcohol because of the “experience” factor? After all, I can drive waaaayyyyy better now with a six pack or so in me than I could as a 17 year old.
48 posted on 11/02/2011 6:05:04 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
For example; tough drunken driving laws make a huge difference

Then why do the same people get caught repeatedly? In spite of MADD's lobbying for ridiculously low illegal levels, there are still loads of drunk drivers. They just don't care.

Which, if it is a thousand dollar fine, is a lot less serious than getting killed or killing someone else.

You don't seem to catch on that some people just can't seem to pay attention to what they're doing. The urge to talk, text, etc. is just too strong. A secretary I had from a previous job was like that. She had been in at least 8 minor accidents in three years. And in every case it was legally her fault (She ren into things - mostly other cars, but the occasinal roadside garbage can, etc.) BUT in her mind it was never her fault. She was "looking for an address" or "talking to someone about something important." etc. I'm surprised her husband didn't divorce her. He kept her out of trouble by paying off her victims. You no doubt remember them from school. The ones that didn't shut up no matter what the teacher did or said.

49 posted on 11/02/2011 6:06:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Tax-chick

sure thats fine.


50 posted on 11/02/2011 6:07:48 AM PDT by TheGunny
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