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Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Saying Life Begins Conception is ‘Extreme and Radical’
Cybercast News Service ^ | November 3, 2011 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/04/2011 2:01:40 AM PDT by markomalley

Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.), chair of the Democratic National Committee, said Thursday that for states to enact constitutional amendments that say human life begins at conception is “an extreme and radical step.”

“For the vast majority of Americans, including people on both sides of the abortion issue, this is an extreme and radical step,” she said.

Speaking to reporters on a conference call, Wasserman-Schultz said that so-called personhood amendments are a “divisive, dangerous, and destructive” attack on women.

“To American women, their reproductive health and choice is an intensely personal and private issue between themselves, their families, and their doctors,” the DNC chairwoman said. “But Republicans in Washington and across the country have tried to limit these rights, with their assault on Planned Parenthood in Congress and restrictive laws in the states being among several examples.”

“Now," she said, "the effort by the far right [is] to pass these so-called personhood amendments--divisive, dangerous, and destructive laws which would cripple a woman’s right to choose, limit access to birth control, and put the lives of women with difficult pregnancies at risk.”

Wasserman-Shultz called the personhood amendments being considered or petitioned for in Mississippi, Ohio, Texas, Kansas, and Florida “the most extreme assault on a woman’s right to choose.”

Personhood amendments define when a human being becomes a "person" under the law. An amendment proposed in Mississippi, for example, says that a person is “every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning or the functional equivalent thereof.”

Wasserman-Shultz said that the Mississippi amendment--which will go before voters on Nov. 8--will outlaw all abortions and some forms of birth control (presumably because they kill human embryos) and also IUDs, the morning-after pill, and in vitro fertilization procedures that create and discard human embyros.

Under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states are required to provide equal protection of the law to all persons.

Wasserman-Schultz said that one of her main goals was to dissuade Florida voters from signing a petition needed to get a personhood amendment on the ballot there in 2012.

“We’re sounding the alarm bells now because it’s absolutely critical that Floridians understand just how extreme this personhood campaign is, what it would do to not only a woman’s right to choose but to saving the lives of women, to the opportunity for parents to be--the opportunity for men and women to become parents when they’ve not been able to,” she said.

Florida's proposed amendment says: “The words ‘person’ and ‘natural person’ apply to all human beings, irrespective of age, race, health, function, condition of physical and/or mental dependency and/or disability, or method of reproduction, from the beginning of the biological development of that human being."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; dangerous; debbiehatesembryos; debbiemolechschultz; destructive; divisive; florida; moralabsolutes; onesickbroad; prolife

1 posted on 11/04/2011 2:01:42 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses; Salvation

ping


2 posted on 11/04/2011 2:02:13 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
No Miss Debbie:
Taking scissors to the head of a fetus who only wants to live is EXTREME. . . . .
3 posted on 11/04/2011 2:04:44 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My Hat Don't Hang on the same Nail to Long. . . . . . . . .)
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To: markomalley

Being hot and bothered about (horny for) abortion (baby murder) is sick. These godless Marxist people are not extremists. They’re just plain evil.


4 posted on 11/04/2011 2:12:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: markomalley; ntnychik; dixiechick; bray; wagglebee
The election of 2010, the Tea Party phenomenon, the chord struck by Sarah Palin's personal example--

--all this and more indicates it is Wasserman-Schultz and Hussein Gaga who are radically sick.

America evinces a rising which will drive out the demons in the manner of an electoral exorcism.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 2:20:45 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Voter#537

The Axis lost WWII; the Nazis won. Their ideas thrive, while those that drove Americans back then have been forgotten or pushed out of the public square. Abortion was one of the crimes against humanity that was justification for the hanging of Nazis at Nuremberg.


6 posted on 11/04/2011 2:21:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: markomalley
Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.), chair of the Democratic National Committee, said Thursday that for states to enact constitutional amendments that say human life begins at conception is “an extreme and radical step.”

No, Congresscritter Whatsyername-Shoot, it's neither extreme, nor radical, what it *is*, irrefutably, is basic biology. Science, and all that. Got it?

the infowarrior

7 posted on 11/04/2011 2:23:22 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: markomalley

Deb is just plain stupid.


8 posted on 11/04/2011 2:26:49 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: markomalley

I never listen to a woman with a hyphen name. It means she has trouble deciding.


9 posted on 11/04/2011 2:27:40 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: markomalley
WASSERMANCHRONICLES
10 posted on 11/04/2011 2:43:05 AM PDT by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: markomalley
“Now," she said, "the effort by the far right [is] to pass these so-called personhood amendments--divisive, dangerous, and destructive laws which would cripple a woman’s right to choose, limit access to birth control, and put the lives of women with difficult pregnancies at risk.”

It is a scientific fact that life begins at conception. It is time to deal with that inconvenient TRUTH. The truth is NOT divisive, dangerous, and destructive, Debbie.

Even some Democrats know that life begins at conception, but have been weasel-wording the "viability of the growing embryo" to allow murder of the unborn.

Just admit it, Debbie, and propose new laws to codify murder of the unborn; then our culture of death will be complete. That is, give the mother the right to kill her children, rather than pretending that the baby is not really a baby but some a mass of growing protoplasm that is not viable outside the womb.

11 posted on 11/04/2011 2:43:57 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry sir. I will agree that Ms Wassermann-Test is “bothered”. But she is not now, nor has she ever been in any way “hot”.


12 posted on 11/04/2011 2:44:59 AM PDT by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: olezip

One area my liberal friends will not discuss with me is this matter of murder (used to be a liberal term called abortion but now it is called choice). I simply do not tip toe around the issue. If the baby is not human at conception, then it has to be either a pig or an acorn. I would agree with them if they can prove to me that if not human, then either a pig or an acorn. That is the fundamental argument - human, pig or acorn. No other choice.

As you stated the scientific method (observe, theorize and then test, test, test)says human, DNA says human, biology says human, all science known to mankind says human. Why not “man up” and admit the baby is human and admit that murder is what the offending liberal is doing.

Denying humanity is what any human must do to rationalize the mass murders that he or she commits. We saw this with Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot and we see it with todays liberals. No excuse. Life does begin at conception, simply check the DNA.


13 posted on 11/04/2011 2:56:37 AM PDT by inthaihill (Living in an interesting paradise - Thailand!)
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To: All; markomalley
The vile, despicable Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is anti-science?

Who knew! /s

14 posted on 11/04/2011 2:58:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (TeaParty & establishment GOP conspire to reelect Obama.)
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To: markomalley

So Debbie...if “reproductive health and choice is an intensely personal and private issue between (women) themselves, their families, and their doctors,” why exactly am I supposed to pay for it??? Dumber than a box of rocks, sorry for insulting the rocks.


15 posted on 11/04/2011 3:11:27 AM PDT by Pat4ever
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To: markomalley

“...this is an extreme and radical...”

So was Jesus


16 posted on 11/04/2011 3:19:39 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: markomalley

At conception, the egg, through fertilization, is transformed into a unique entity (a scientifically proven fact...DNA). You can deny it personhood, but that doesn’t change the TRUTH that it IS a unique new person (no matter what stage). A fetus is not an aardvark or some other animal; nor is it a lump of flesh or part of the mother; rather a seperate human person totally dependant on the mother to nuture him/her.

What part of this doesn’t Ditzy Debbie get? I think she gets it quite well, but will lie and deny and deceive to further promote her evil agenda embraced by an evil culture.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 3:20:03 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Voter#537

Correct! Abortion is child abuse; its proponents are child abusers. Mrs. Schultz should stop sticking her fingers in electric sockets and perhaps take a Wasserman test. Her mind is rotting away, a positive test will confirm.


18 posted on 11/04/2011 3:26:35 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: inthaihill

They can call it choice, but that is a deception. The fact is it is called “choice” so you will mentally “look the other way” as they kill a baby the mother does not want. If you think TRUTH, abortion is a horrible thing we allow. Dare not to contemplate the possibility of an infant soul, as you were taught when you were a child.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 3:27:52 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA speak his name with loathing for what he has done to America!)
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To: markomalley

When a liberal doesn’t like something, it’s ‘divisive’—when they do something that’s actually destructive (like killing human babies), it’s ‘courageous.’

The whole vernacular of the pro-abortion left has always been sickly amusing. They seem to spend almost all their energy on correcting perceptions. They never seem to stop and think about why this is necessary.


20 posted on 11/04/2011 3:30:37 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: olezip

“It is a scientific fact that life begins at conception.”

The fact that they argue about this explains everything
about who and what they are. People who have no value on
human life other than their own, deserve no respect. If
they can say “when life begins” then you know they will be
after “when life should end” next. Obama care = Logan’s Run.


21 posted on 11/04/2011 3:30:41 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: markomalley

Over 100 million Americans are Catholic or Southern Baptist. Are more than one-third of the electorate “radical extremists”?


22 posted on 11/04/2011 3:32:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: markomalley

Someone should ask She Who Never Washes Her Hair if she were pregnant and someone kicked her in the stomach as hard as they could, should that person be charged with murder?


23 posted on 11/04/2011 3:36:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Voter#537

“No Miss Debbie:
Taking scissors to the head of a fetus who only wants to live is EXTREME. . .”

EXACTLY!


24 posted on 11/04/2011 3:37:41 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: olezip
Correct -it is empirically true that life begins at conception. If they examined their own arguments at all they would realize that they are denying that humanity begins at conception.

That's an argument they would prefer to avoid, because then they would have to make the ugly claims that inevitably follow.

25 posted on 11/04/2011 3:40:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Voter#537

Yep. She is one twisted sister.


26 posted on 11/04/2011 4:05:23 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: markomalley
Speaking to reporters on a conference call, Wasserman-Schultz said that so-called personhood amendments are a “divisive, dangerous, and destructive” attack on women.

Did this bi$ch Wasserman-Shultz ever think that making it law that life begins at conception, is being done to enable the judicial system to charge people for murder/manslaughter when a perp does something to a preganant woman that cause her to lose the baby?

27 posted on 11/04/2011 4:17:24 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: John Semmens

Sooooo . . . you’re writing for CNS under the pseudonym Matt Cover now, eh?


28 posted on 11/04/2011 4:17:40 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: infowarrior
...it's neither extreme, nor radical, what it *is*, irrefutably, is basic biology.

Wouldn't you like to see her answer as to when she believes life begins?
People like her will recognize that an animal's life begins at conception yet they can't seem to do the same with humans.

"Have your pet spayed or neutered."

29 posted on 11/04/2011 4:22:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: markomalley

Ok, Debbie, then please tell me when you think life begins???

Would you agree that once life begins - whenever it is - that after that, to take that life is murder?

And now, what is your basis for your deciding when life begins?

What if you are wrong? By even one day? If you are off by even one day, that means you are supporting murder.......


Love to see any lib deal with that one......never happen....


30 posted on 11/04/2011 4:34:58 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: markomalley

A true “enemy of life”.


31 posted on 11/04/2011 4:42:25 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: markomalley
For me to consider you anything more than a 2 digit IQ'ed moron is radical!

There, I said it, yea, I do feel better.

Therapy is helping......

32 posted on 11/04/2011 4:55:56 AM PDT by fedupjohn ("JUST LIKE YOU, I'M NOT FOR SALE!....Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: markomalley

Really? Well I think killing unborn children is extreme and radical, Debbie.


33 posted on 11/04/2011 5:04:29 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: markomalley
I don't believe it's a tortured analogy between abortion and slavery. Considering how one party in the U.S. has come out in vociferous support of each, I find it a compelling one.

On the eve of its destruction, slavery and the political system it supported ($$$) denied the humanity of those in bondage. All earlier defenses, either economic or paternalistic, were abandoned in favor of tortured pseudo-scientific arguments that black were not fully human. And here is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz saying the argument that human life begins at conception is “an extreme and radical step.”

We may well be near the end. .

34 posted on 11/04/2011 5:18:15 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: markomalley
‘Extreme and radical’ are the two ‘talking points’ words applied to every TEA party and/or Conservative candidate in the last election. Oh Debbie, that's sooooo 2010!
35 posted on 11/04/2011 5:19:30 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: markomalley
Sorry, Debbie Life BEGINS at CONCEPTION! THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!
36 posted on 11/04/2011 5:22:58 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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37 posted on 11/04/2011 5:26:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley; wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses; Salvation

What a staggering ignorance of basic biology.


38 posted on 11/04/2011 5:56:27 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: markomalley

A song, *The Spirit of the Age* by Michael Card, does a great job on addressing abortion. Thanks to Fr. Chris for putting this very moving you tube video together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT8OPGrTg-c


39 posted on 11/04/2011 6:01:34 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: markomalley

The heir apparent to Nancy Pelosi’s job. Just as evil.


40 posted on 11/04/2011 6:23:52 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: metmom

It’s not ignorance, it’s denial.

The pro-aborts get pretty flustered when you try to nail down exactly when they would legally protect a human life vs when it can be killed at the “choice” of another,

because most “pro-aborts” are actually “had-aborts”.


41 posted on 11/04/2011 6:25:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Arlis

Santorum pins Boxer on this very question:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/notansweringboxersantorum.html


42 posted on 11/04/2011 6:27:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: markomalley
Saying life DOESN'T start at conception is extreme and radical too. Seems like the prudent, non radical, course in such uncertainty is to err in favor of life over “convenience” and “choice”. But abortion is the ultimate example of exalting selfishness as a virtue.
43 posted on 11/04/2011 9:26:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MrB

Great! Thank you!


44 posted on 11/04/2011 9:27:53 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Jim Robinson
As usual, their argument makes no sense. If the embryo is not alive, in what state is he?

They don't know. All they know is that he's not alive because that's what they've been told. Argue the point?

They can't. They just shout you down and blather about choice.
45 posted on 11/04/2011 9:52:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: markomalley

Bump.


46 posted on 11/04/2011 9:59:04 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Famous adopted people:

http://celebrities.adoption.com/famous/adoptee-biographies.html


47 posted on 11/04/2011 2:37:57 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks markomalley.
...said that so-called personhood amendments are a "divisive, dangerous, and destructive" attack on women.
The Demwits are and always have been divisive, dangerous, and destructive. Debbie is divisive, dangerous, and destructive.


48 posted on 11/04/2011 4:20:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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