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Perry suggests US visa program to let illegal immigrants come and go freely; opposes amnesty
Washington Post ^ | November 3, 2011

Posted on 11/04/2011 7:39:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: dennisw
"This statement by Perry is deliberate self sabotage or he is a moron"

The two are not mutually exclusive. But I'd say mostly the latter.
201 posted on 11/04/2011 4:06:20 PM PDT by CowboyJay ("Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day parade." - fieldmarshalj)
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To: ken21

I think it’s just people get kicks talking about this kind of stuff. I don’t blame the women for not wanting to talk to the public. Can you imagine the threats etc they and their families would get?

Plus it seems two of them are Gov employees. Bah Bye job.

It’s a good diversion, we KNOW the msm NEVER wants to talk about REAL Issues. Subpoena to WH, Greece going down the tube. but the even worse problem is out of view ITALY.
The MX/U.S border a war zone. They are still hoping for a Bubba type scandal. But if the women will not cooperate. OOPS it’s dead.
Anyway the msm probably got word from the WH that they need Romney to be the candidate. So the RINO’s and msm are doing all they can to help.


202 posted on 11/04/2011 4:13:59 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

yeah.

but why start it to begin with?

the msm is just making trouble for cain.


203 posted on 11/04/2011 4:24:59 PM PDT by ken21
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To: ken21

It’s politics and you bet the Dummie dirty tricks machine knew about this within days of Cain announcing. I guess they didn’t think he would get any attention. Now they need him destroyed. They need Romney to be the Candidate. WHY? I have no idea. They must have something on him. No


204 posted on 11/04/2011 4:31:14 PM PDT by marty60
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To: gogogodzilla
Well, if they get work visas... that would end their ‘illegal’ status as soon as they got it.

That's the most troubling aspect of this. It would be legitimizing their crimes.

I will say this, I may disagree with CW a lot, but I give her credit for the title of this thread laying out that Perry wants the illegals to come and go freely across our border. Others might have tried to downplay that aspect.
205 posted on 11/04/2011 4:33:21 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Tribune7
Do you know what "teabagging" is?

Every word of my tag line is based on what those on the right (conservatives) have been called by lefties or in the case of "Hobbit" by John McCain.

As far as teabagging is concerned, it's better to be a teabagger than a teabaggee. :-)

206 posted on 11/04/2011 4:33:55 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

thanks!! Newt is good but he has to raise the money. If he can pull in some money he can be a contender.


207 posted on 11/04/2011 4:40:49 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: bullypulpit
I didn't propose that.

But, I think a sound, politically palatable policy in this race conscious society would be to grant visas in proportion to the current ethnic mix of the country.

I understand, however, that that wouldn't fly with the progressives, who wish to break the country into malleable ethnic enclaves.

208 posted on 11/04/2011 5:12:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: dennisw

His “baggage” is looking a lot less worriesome. ha.


209 posted on 11/04/2011 5:47:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: bullypulpit

I like your thinking but I actually think that ‘333’ rolls of the lips a little better. I’ll put it before the entire board and get back to you...yup, we’re going with ‘333’. Are you paying attention, Herman?


210 posted on 11/04/2011 8:39:40 PM PDT by Mr. Fabtastic
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To: bullypulpit
Conscript the ‘occupiers’. They obviously don't work. Conscript their asses. They can either go to work packing meat and picking vegetables or they can go to jail for the crimes they are currently committing but being ignored by their organizer-in-chief Barack. What sane American wouldn't vote for the candidate with that plan? Get Cain on the phone asap! I've solved 2 major national problems in less than 12 hours. I'm putting in for a raise!
211 posted on 11/04/2011 8:43:07 PM PDT by Mr. Fabtastic
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To: Norseman

I believe that if we did away with welfare, unemployment, etc there would be no shortage of native workers. Currently, we pay people more to sit at home than to work. Remember the adage: If you want more of something subsidize it...
I pretty much agree with your last paragraph as long as they gotta go home first, not receive it here.


212 posted on 11/05/2011 5:30:03 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

>>I believe that if we did away with welfare, unemployment, etc there would be no shortage of native workers. Currently, we pay people more to sit at home than to work. <<

You’ve raised two distinct issues:

We’ll never do away with programs that keep people from starving, or freezing in an unheated house during a northern winter, or dying of a treatable illness that they can’t afford to treat. Granted, private charity is capable of filling some of this need, and if government didn’t do it, charity would almost certainly increase, but, as Hayek maintained (about Great Britain in the 40’s), we are too rich a society to allow the above scenarios to occur if we can avoid them.

The second issue is how much we spend to avoid the above scenarios, and here I very much agree with you. There is no doubt in my mind that we are encouraging unemployment and sloth with the overly-generous government programs currently available.

The trick is to find the proper balance. And to do that we first have to get Obama and his ilk out of power...

A good example was what happened to welfare programs. They grew and grew until the 1990’s and then shrunk dramatically as the payments were reined in and work requirements were added. The same needs to be done with unemployment benefits today, which have gotten completely out of hand.

If Obama had a clue, he’d cut unemployment payments back to 39 weeks and get to see the unemployment rate drop significantly before November 2012...fortunately he’s clueless regarding anything to do with free market economics.


213 posted on 11/05/2011 8:15:37 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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