Skip to comments.What's Your Kid Getting From College? (Is it worth the tuition?)
Posted on 11/06/2011 8:04:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
For hard-working American families struggling to make ends meet, the student protesters at Occupy Wall Street must seem like cast members of a reality show designed to make them look shallow and self-indulgent. The irony is that these students and recent grads have a point about their college debt. It's just not the point they are making.
Here, for example, is a typical entry on the blog "We Are the 99 Percent." A woman is holding up a handwritten note that reads: "I am a college graduate. I am also unemployed. I was lead [sic] to believe that college would insure me a job. I now have $40,000 worth of student debt."
The headlines tell us that, as a nation, we now owe more in college loans than we do on our credit cards. Notwithstanding the stock horror stories about the kid who leaves campus owing hundreds of thousands, however, the average college debt load is about the price of a new Toyota Prius$28,100 for those with a degree from a four-year private school, $22,000 for those from public schools.
Even so, these figures don't touch the most important question: Are students getting fair value in return?
Anne Neal has been trying to help families answer that question for years. As president of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, she believes students should leave college with a broad base of knowledge that will allow them "to compete successfully in our globalized economy and to make sense of the modern world." By that ACTA means universities should require a core curriculum with substantive courses in composition, literature, American history, economics, math, science and foreign language.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
HAVE A LOOK AT THIS SITE FOLKS:
At WhatWillTheyLearn.com, students can click onto ACTA’s recent survey of more than 1,000 American four-year institutionsand find out how their colleges and universities rate.
Two findings jump out. First, the more costly the college, the less likely it will require a demanding core curriculum. Second, public institutions generally do better here than private onesand historically black colleges such as Morehouse and service academies such as West Point amount to what ACTA calls “hidden gems.”
I am surprised that an Ivy League school like Harvard is rated ‘D’ !!
There's her problem right there. A good work ethic (like showing up for work) trumps a college diploma (tuition receipt) every time.
Nothing that I can see. OTOH, my wallet is getting severely violated.
A technical degree and I told her I would not pay for any other.
My son is in college now - it appears to me college is teaching what kids are NOT learning in High School. He was homeschooled so he’s doing fine - but the work just doesn’t seem that tough to me.
A liberal indoctrination.
No fundamental or foundational skills necessary to BE PRODUCTIVE in society.
Primarily, how to deindustrialize the West.
“...as a nation, we now owe more in college loans than we do on our credit cards.”
This is deliberate servitude of the young and the middle class.
This is a crime against a whole generation.
It wasn’t enough to send credit cards to Jr at college, and mom and dad would bail him out. NO, the government and the banks decided it was better to load up young people who are full of it with debt BEFORE they woke up and went looking for a job.
And it was done to prop up the university system, a system that is full of fraud, disinformation, and flaming libs. It is to support those who are DESTROYING this country from within.
Since the Liberal Fascists (Jonah Goldberg’s accurate term) took them over, most colleges aren’t worth anything.
A few, like Hillsdale, still teach Western culture and American foundations.
- - - and accept no money from the government!
IF They are in any of the STEM Programs
“Private enterprise, a wonderful thing”
Barack Hussein thinks jobs are created by Presidential fiat. I wonder where he thinks babies come from?
For those who would like to know, Patrick Henry in Virgina does both as well.
“For those who would like to know, Patrick Henry in Virgina does both as well.”
It has the right name. I should have known!
“And it was done to prop up the university system, a system that is full of fraud, disinformation, and flaming libs. It is to support those who are DESTROYING this country from within.”
You are absolutely correct! “Wall Street” and “the big corporations” had nothing to do with the mess they find themselves in. Their anger is entirely misdirected! These young people have dug themselves into a pit of debt that they cannot erase, even if they declare bankruptcy, and they are finding out the hard way how much those “Peace Studies” and “Gender Studies” degrees are REALLY worth!
If the had any sense, they’d “occupy” a few universities!
Unemployment for college grads is 5%, while for high school grads is 10%. So a paying job, and one that pays better, is what your kid gets for a college degree.
Just make sure it is in the sciences and not the liberal arts. A liberal arts degree is pretty worthless, though not totally worthless. A bachelor of sciences is still vastly preferred to no college. Too many people today pretend this isn’t true.
Thank goodness my daughter got a full ride scholarship for basketball. Even she says classes are pretty much a waste of time. She’s conservative, and there is always a story about so many liberal professors.
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