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To: Agamemnon

“The government cannot prescribe a curriculum for a GI Bill outlay nor can it dictate a thing to the school about to what curriculum it may apply.”

- - - or by-pass Congress or “deem” a healthcare bill passed or apologize for America’s greatness or start class warfare or attack states like Arizona or anything else. Our government’s hands are just tied!

I believe if Government money goes to a school so will government influence. And that’s all I was saying about Hillsdale, and the fact that it teaches solid American values.

As for tuition cost and job placement, I wasn’t talking about those things at all.


38 posted on 11/07/2011 4:45:01 AM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: RoadTest; SeekAndFind
- - - or by-pass Congress or “deem” a healthcare bill passed

You are aware that that ultimately did not happen, right, and there would be huge Constitutional problems if they did?

... or apologize for America’s greatness or start class warfare or attack states like Arizona or anything else. Our government’s hands are just tied!

You have a tendency to get sidetracked from the discussion. Apologizing for America's greatness and attacking Arizona have nothing to do with the fact that the government is as bound by contractual obligations as any private citizen is.

Hillsdale may not receive direct gov't support as most other institutions do but that doesn't mean they are not still governed by laws of the US and Michigan. Their freedom is still protected by the US military as is anyone else's.

A scholarship or employee benefit is just that. If Dow Chemical in Midland, Michigan paid the educational support of a student employee of theirs at Hillsdale, Dow Chemical doesn't have any say so as to what the curriculum of Hillsdale is with respect to their employee, although Dow pays for (and deducts such support from its taxable income)an employee benefit. Hilldale will take the money of an employer.

The USMC employed my son. He is entitled to a contractual benefit, and Hilldale refuses to let him use his contracted benefit at their school. It's a simple as that. He will and has taken that benefit elsewhere.

Strangely, one would think that a place like Hilldale who is supposedly supportive of the US military -- at least in their words -- would not be inclined to turn away the educational benefit $ of an honorably discharged, USMC student. He already had a superior GPA from in-service earned college credits, and politically he is as conservative a FReeper as any of us here are. He just happened to place his health and life on the line for the past 4 years on Hillsdale's behalf as much as he did so for the USA generally.

One would think Hilldale would like to make an effort to encourage conservative, honorably discharged US Marines to apply to their school with their post-service employment severance benefit.

But they don't. And that is their right to do, as protected under the Constitution my son swore to uphold and protect with his life. Still, as I said before, for all the platitudes as Imprimus has ever espoused in my own 45 years of reading them, and for all the principles their lecture series' hold forth upon, Hillsdale fails to lead by example, and enriches themselves as does any other $-inflated institution -- with no more $-deliverable to the graduating student than may be obtained anywhere else.

I believe if Government money goes to a school so will government influence. And that’s all I was saying about Hillsdale, and the fact that it teaches solid American values.

My son pays UCONN with greenbacks like he would have paid Hillsdale. You continue to confuse direct government support which does carry gov't influence with a contracted employment benefit, which does not. "Solid American Values" is all just so much verbage if the institution doesn't practice what it preaches.

As for tuition cost and job placement, I wasn’t talking about those things at all.

The thread topic is: "What's Your Kid Getting From College? (Is it worth the tuition?)"

I stayed on topic. By your own admission, you did not, and it appears I have had to devote a significant amount of discussion time trying to bring the discussion back to the topic.

FReegards!


39 posted on 11/07/2011 9:00:07 AM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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