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To: allmendream

“Your failure to provide a source”

T’was your claim that those who died were actually healthy and not immune compromised. I claimed, as logic would dictate, that we would see a higher rate of death if healthy people were susceptible to dying.

“Here is my source”

Unfortunately your source does not say what you claim. Odd that. That you would deliberately cite a source that does not cite your claim leads me to believe that you don’t actually have any source to back up your claim that those who died were healthy.

This isn’t exactly helping your claim that this is your field, btw.

“I didn’t bring up my “vast expertise”, you asked.”

You said we should trust you based on your authority, which immediately prompted my comment. If you are relying on an argument from authority, then yes, this is going to get called on.

“I see how this works for idiots without credentials”

So now, I’m an idiot because I do not have your credentials? Logic would dictate that the one with the credentials would be able to explain their position in a calm and collected manner, befitting their obviously superior background knowledge.

Again, this isn’t the case here. Which makes me wonder what credentials you really have.

“I never tried to validate my statements through my own authority”

Actually, yes you did. Calling me idiot, moron, ignorant, etc, isn’t helping either.

“I don’t think ANY vaccine should be mandatory because I don’t see that as one of the limited and enumerated power given to government.”

Then you believe that public education is also one of the limited and enumerate powers of the government, and that the government has the right to collect your tax dollars in order to immunize other people?

“Chicken pox is not benign.”

It’s not very virulent. The opposite of virulent is benign.

“If that is the basis of your preposterous argument that there is no reason to vaccinate a healthy person (for chicken pox ONLY you clarify later”

I stated, if you had read up in the thread, that I believed that vaccination should only take place for diseases that were life threatening, and were effective with herd immunity. Chicken pox fails both criterions.

I suggest, again, that you read up in the thread, and then you will see, that I said precisely that.

“This is not difficult for an intelligent person to understand.”

Apparently it is difficult for you to understand that I never said what you are claiming I said. I presume and intelligent person would be able to recall what I said correctly, rather than distorting my comments.

“But I can see where you would have a lot of trouble with the concept”

Let’s see, still haven’t addressed my argument that there is a difference for herd immunity between influenza and diptheria, which explains why public policy has treated both diseases in a different fashion.

Still waiting for the all high and mighty scholar to deal with this, which was an argument I stated right away.


88 posted on 11/07/2011 2:55:24 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
“Logic would dictate” was how you defend your unsourced claim rather than providing a source for such a claim! Wow. That really takes the cake!

I didn't say anyone should trust me based upon anything - I stated that giving a vaccine to a sick person is counterproductive and asked if you required a basic education in how vaccination works. You then ASKED ME what expertise I have - unfortunately for you I know what I am talking about with vaccinations and you have nothing.

Where is your source that these children who died of chicken pox were “all or almost all” immune compromised?

91 posted on 11/07/2011 3:03:28 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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