Posted on 11/08/2011 7:23:05 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Could well be. Sadly, there are still legions of confused conservatives who voted for Perot (twice in some cases) who still can't figure out that they are responsible for allowing Clinton to worm his way into the White House. The media was laughing the whole way knowing Perot was helping Clinton win.
A lot of these people haven't quite realized that our constitutional republic is, in effect, a 2 party system. You can work to change the least bad party from within, but rarely if ever will folks have the perfect candidate to vote for. With no means to build coalitions, 3rd party voting is just flat out stupid. Now, maybe we need a constitutional convention that moves us to a parliamentary type system that encourages multi-party coalition building, but that just isn't likely to happen in our lifetimes. We are stuck with what we have, and there are only going to be 2 realistic choices each election cycle - very often that is going to be bad and less bad.
So has Ross Perot, Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, Bob Barr, Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, John Schmitz, Cynthia McKinney, and a host of other names.
I don’t buy it. I don’t see how the WH will be able to manufacture a Conservative challenge to the GOP nominee if we are satisfied with him. If you remember, Perot hated Bush with a passion and that is how that whole thing started. Even though Bush lost GOP votes to this dope, there was little or no indication that Perot was a right winger. He was a garden variety populist that conned a bunch of gullible rubes to vote for him.
BTW, Upchuck Todd doesn’t have sources on Team Obummer, he is the source along with all the other cretins on PMSLSD.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY
After Eric Holder resigns and is thrown under the bus, more and more of Obama’s dirty laundry becomes public. Howard Dean announces his candidacy and accuses Obama of selling out to Wall Street and the Military-Industrial Complex. Dean wins the first primaries and caucuses.
A Democratic “death squad” goes down to the White House and explains to Obama that he still has the blacks, but the rest of his coalition has deserted him. He pulls an LBJ and stands down his candidacy.
The next day Hillary resigns as Secretary of State and announces her candidacy. She becomes the main rival to Dean, representing centrists, much the way her husband did. Wall Street money immediately piles in.
The Democratic Convention is a rerun of 1968 with super-delegates giving Clinton the nod. She picks Evan Bayh of Indiana as her running mate.
Dean pulls his people out of the Democratic Party, charging that it is collaborating with a corrupt establishment, and he dusts off the old name of the Progressive Party, picking Dennis Kucinich as his running mate.
REPUBLICAN PARTY
Mitt Romney is the last man standing and gets the nomination. There is an old saying, “Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line.” Conservatives are expected to fall in line. Wall Street falls in line.
As expected, Ron Paul leaves the Republican Party and goes to the Libertarians, but there is a shock. Paul explains that he is 76 and is too old to do this anymore. It is time for the Libertarians to grow up and merge with the Tea Party. Paul motions offstage, and Sarah Palin comes on. Paul endorses Palin for the Libertarian-Tea Party nomination. Palin picks Rand Paul of Kentucky as her running mate.
THE ELECTION
Palin once remarked that she expected 2012 to be an “unconventional” election. I assumed she meant that it would not be a two-way race. While two-way races are won from the middle, three- and four-way races are won from the base. He who consolidates his base the most wins, and the Great Middle doesn’t matter at all.
The model for a truly unconventional race is 1860. The two candidates of the center (Douglas and Bell) captured few states. The candidates who consolidated their bases (Lincoln and Breckinridge) won the most states. Lincoln was elected with only 40% of the popular vote.
Palin repeats Lincoln’s accomplishment with 38% of the popular vote. The Democratic and Republican Parties go to the ash heap of history, and the American political landscape changes.
No it's not. Likely, yes. Inevitable, no. We have two months before the first Caucuses take shape.
You don't seriously believe that voting can derail Romney at this point, do you?
John Anderson ran as the 3rd party candidate and it didn’t hurt Reagan. Anderson got 6.6% of the vote.
I also expect some kind of challenge to obama from the extreme left...maybe Ralph Nader again or someone he pushes. Should be an interesting summer.
Do you seriously believe that Romney would seriously invade the 40% conservative base, presuming that the conservative candidate were not a paranoid dwarf with no political experience?
How is it "not only possible, but probable" considering the history of 3rd party candidacies and their failure to win since 1856? I'm seeing parallels to the Wilson election more than the Lincoln election with 3rd parties. Roosevelt and Taft split, and Wilson wins 400+ electoral with 40% of the vote.
It's not just about who is liberal or who is conservative. It's about convincing voters to vote for something besides defeating the other guy. It's about organization to get the message out. It's about getting one's people to the polls through door knocks, absentee voter chase, sign locations, and the other nuts and bolts things required for a successful campaign.
Let's stop Romney now while we can, and avoid this argument in the general election. I may throw up a protest vote in November like I did against Snyder, but I hold no illusions about a 3rd party candidate winning a presidency. Ever.
If they select ORomney to be their candidate, than the GOP will become the third party.
The way they treated Sarah is shameful, and is one reason I am no longer a registered Republican. I hope we can all stick it to them!
I just pray it doesn't have the same aftermath like 1860 did
You presume that the GOP is something other than a corpse.
No they would not, and that goes for any potential 3rd party candidate. Sarah Palin knows this and hence said she wasn't running.
This is NOT 1992.
No, it could be worse. 1912.
Definitely. If either Romney or Cain win the nomination, the scene will be ripe for it.
Then Chuck Todd has a very selective form of amnesia. Obama was a populist candidate in 2008, from jump...
the infowarrior
Who in your scenario plays James Earl Ray? I have no doubt whatsoever that martyrdom for The One is Soros and Ayers' hole card.
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