Posted on 11/09/2011 4:30:42 AM PST by suspects
In life, the three big lies are “The check’s in the mail,” “The car was fine when I parked it” and “Honey, I swear I don’t know whose thong that is in the glove box.”
In this political moment, the three big lies are “Social Security is solvent,” “Everyone should go to college,” and “Honey, I swear I don’t know whose thong that is in Herman Cain’s glove box.”
Setting aside the Social Security issue and Herman’s possibly “Cain-al” knowledge of a lady, who is foolish enough to believe everyone belongs in college?
“We should be doing everything we can to put a college education within reach for every American,” President Barack Obama told a group of college students in Denver last week. “College isn’t just one of the best investments you can make in your future. It’s one of the best investments America can make in our future.”
Before we beat this nonsensical notion to death with the latest data, take a second and think about the young people you know. The kid behind the fast-food counter, the geek camped out at Best Buy waiting for the Call of Duty game, the girl popping her gum at the hair salon.
Would it really be the “best investment in America” to spend $100,000 of our money sending each one of them to college?
Because that’s what we’re talking about: your money. Every year Massachusetts taxpayers pour hundreds of millions of dollars into the University of Massachusetts system, subsidizing college costs for all. Add the $36 billion in federal Pell Grants and that giant sucking sound is the money going from your wallet to some kid’s six-year bong party known as “the college experience.”
And what’s the big payoff? Some entitled punk waving a “Debt Is Slavery!” sign outside a...
(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...
I completely agree that college is not for everyone.
HOWEVER, with a complete drought of technical and vocational schools, where else can these kids go out of high school?
My brother is a tradesman and does good work, but he has no formal education; all of his training is on-the-job. Because of this (and the fact he doesn’t speak Spanish), he can’t get a job that requires certifications or formal training.
Until we can fix the state of trade schools in this country, we’re going to have generations of high school graduates who are left in limbo post-secondary.
There is no article at your link, just a title and a couple comments.
Colleges have deteriorated into big bucks con games.
If you want to have a degree - buy one!
If you want to learn something useful - get some real-world experience before deciding what your passion is.
For medicine, science and engineering - hospitals, labs and architectural firms should institute ‘subsidized’ training centers/schools and only accept the best applicants as apprentices - and expel those who don’t measure up.
College for everyone (or even college as a necessity for SOME) ALMOST made sense when there were jobs waiting for graduates.
At this point, the MORON in the WH ought to focus on JOBS so that putting ‘college’ (BY NOW the replacement for an education which did NOT take place in K-12) within the reach of everyone with a pulse.
I work at a university... there are people walking around here who can barely speak properly and cannot figure out how the elevator works, calling themselves ‘students’
” Some entitled punk waving a “Debt Is Slavery!” sign “
Who probably had to get help to spell the big words...
Locally, the industry has supported the growth and development of Northeast State. It offers two year degrees in specific areas of study directed and supported by the local industries. It is also used by many as a gateway to a four year program elsewhere.
It provides grounding in English and other basic skills needed for almost all jobs that now require some interaction with a computer and e mail.
The link simply goes to the second page of the article.
Click on “1” where it says “Page: 1 2”
(Had me going for a moment, too.)
Unfortunately the link appears to be to page 2 of 2. Click the little '1' at the end of the article to view the previous page.
Not many degrees are even worth it anymore. The tuition and everything else is so astronomical when you sit down and work the fianancials you have to question if it is even worth it.
Even being a doctor or lawyer you will rack up over $100,000 of debt. Student loans into the $150,000+ for advanced degrees is not all that uncommon.
Now 10-20 years ago, college didnt cost anywhere near this much. You could get that history degree for less than the cost of a used car. Today it’s the cost of a house. Im sort of scratching my head on why the past decade tuition costs have shot through the roof. Doesnt make sense.
Colleges and Universities any more are just graduation factories.
They are such whores for money, and the bar is so low for entry, that perfectly unfit and uneducated people (ones EVEN remedial courses can NOT bring up to speed) are enrolled and indulged in some BS curriculum. Then they are thrust out on the world...JUST as unemployable and inept as before.... only BY NOW, taxpayer burden is astronomically increased to support this person in a college or university. It is an idiotic process and there is NO guidance or oversight in the whole thing.
If any intelligent and responsible adult would, anywhere along the line, look at this person’s abilities, curriculum and goals .... they’d see that it is good money thrown at an impossible scenario.
There is NOTHING wrong with vocational education or 2 year associate degree programs for people newly out of HS and unable to afford or qualify for college.... NOTHING!!! In two years THESE graduates can come out with demonstrated skills and realistic prospects for employment...Who needs COLLEGE???????????
Perhaps the college funding laws should be changed to only covering fields of study where there is a shortage of skilled degree holders?
Underwater lesbian African culture study wouldn't qualify for Gov loans or grants, all the funds would be used for practical degrees of study.
If “debt is slavery”, and you don’t want to be a slave, then choose to not go into debt.
Simple enough?
If these people would just read the wisdom of the Ages...
Prov 22:7 The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave of the lender
I don’t know how many of you have experienced “disturbing a hen house” but it was EXACTLY like that when I said, at a baby shower with mostly libs and a lot of school teachers in attendance - “college isn’t for everyone, you know”.
BTW, do you realize that in 1975 we reduced size of the largest technical training system in the world - the DoD’s schools for recent inductees. Where else could a kid with no education and no future get technical training in almost every skill imagined in exchange for military service?
No, I am not advocating a return to the draft - it was too painful to endure again (have the T-shirt too). Just want to remind you of what else was lost when we went to the all volunteer force.
I was never advocating for a return of the draft or for military service. I was born in 1980, so I missed that era in our country.
I remember as a high schooler having trade school reps come to talk to us about the trades. I have several friends who went through their programs and are now very successful electricians and GCs.
Everything in this country is upside down, and until we return to the ideals of our Founders, we’re going to continue to meander this miasma known as Progressive America.
Here in NW Florida, we do have trade schools and many can be attended while in high school. Just about every city and/or district has a vocational school that offers skills training.
It appears that not nearly enough are utilizing them.
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