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Penn State Pres. Graham Spanier will quit or be fired today in wake of Sandusky charges, source says
Lehigh Valley Express Times ^ | Staff

Posted on 11/09/2011 10:11:46 AM PST by abb

Penn State University President Graham Spanier will either resign or be voted out by the end of today, a source close to the board of trustees told The Express-Times.

An interim president, most likely Executive Vice President and Provost Rodney A. Erickson, will be appointed and a nationwide search for a permanent replacement will begin, according to the source who requested anonymity.

Spanier was made aware in 2002 that a graduate assistant coach had seen former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly sexually assault a young boy in a shower in the Penn State locker room, according to grand jury testimony. Spanier did not involve police, according to testimony. Spanier has not been charged, but there have been many calls for his resignation.

Sandusky has been charged with 40 counts of sexually abusing children.

Two university administrators -- athletic director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz -- face charges related to a cover-up. Spanier, who was named president in 1995, in recent days has shown his support for the administrators.

Head coach Joe Paterno, the winningest coach in Division I history, announced this morning he will retire at the end of the season.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: joepa; paterno; pederast; pederastagenda; pederasts; pederasty; pennstate; sandusky
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1 posted on 11/09/2011 10:11:51 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

Good. Joe Paterno should be gone today too. But I guess football is more important than child rape.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 10:13:56 AM PST by GnL
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To: abb

>Spanier has not been charged,

Why not?


3 posted on 11/09/2011 10:13:56 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

He’s not a bishop.


4 posted on 11/09/2011 10:18:08 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: abb

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-11-09/penn-state-trustees-allegedly-silenced-board-president-in-sex-abuse-case
Penn State trustees allegedly silenced board president in sex abuse case

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/homepage-feature/item/29656-corbett-breaks-silence-on-penn-state
Corbett breaks silence on Penn State

Corbett oversaw the investigation while he served as state Attorney General, before becoming governor.

He says on one hand, there’s the legal question of how allegations of sexual abuse were handled, and on the other hand, there’s the moral issue.

“I was, I am personally disappointed in the lack of action and had to contain that for the last two plus years,” said Corbett. “The board is going to address that.”


5 posted on 11/09/2011 10:18:38 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
Penn State Pres. Graham Spanier will quit or be fired today in wake of Sandusky charges, source says

Golden parachute no doubt to accompany departure.

6 posted on 11/09/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: abb

Spanier brought the era of homosexual tolerance to Penn State after he did the same at UNL.

This is the radical homosexual agenda on display -— there is no such thing as pedophelia.


7 posted on 11/09/2011 10:23:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: abb

For ALL responsible:

Loss of job.

Jail time.

And worst of all (and most UNLIKELY in the fault-free Royal Court of Big Academia/Jockland), loss of pension and benefits.


8 posted on 11/09/2011 10:25:56 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: abb
Ray Gricar

The DA who went missing while investigating this.


9 posted on 11/09/2011 10:26:08 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: abb

hey what is wrong with everyone - is Penn State supposed to follow rules like the Boy Scouts? I thought gay marriage is all the rage in blue states and that gays in the military can’t possible harm the mission. Someone help this poor guy are we for or against gays having fun at work? Are we for or against gays in scouts? After all the Philly city council kicked the scouts out of their building because they don’t let gay men treat young boys like play toys. /sarcasm on this topic is not proper, but how do we change the rules when all I said is allowed to go unchallenged - until some gay man gets caught and his “gay loving friends” cover it up.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 10:26:47 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Erik Latranyi; abb

How do they name the EXISTING Exec VP and Provost as interim president? This guy new NOTHING about all these charges/investigations? Doesn’t compute..


11 posted on 11/09/2011 10:27:27 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: abb

Here is what happened in 2002.

McQueary tells Paterno he saw Sandusky with a boy in the showers having sex.

Paterno has McQueary tell Curley and Schultz, who tell Spanier.

Spanier gets Sandusky in and asks him if the sex with the boy was consensual. Sandusky says “yes” and the matter is closed.

Spanier tolerates radical homosexuality, including the concept that minors can give consent.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 10:29:51 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: abb

Good ridence. There has been a lot of moral and ethical decay at PSU scince this scumbag signed on.


13 posted on 11/09/2011 10:36:18 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Spanier tolerates radical homosexuality, including the concept that minors can give consent.”

From Wikipedia:

“Spanier graduated from Highland Park High School (Highland Park, Illinois), and earned his bachelor’s and master’s degrees from Iowa State University where he was honored with the Distinguished Achievement Citation by the ISU Alumni Association in 2004.[2] He earned his Ph.D.. in sociology from Northwestern University where he was a Woodrow Wilson Fellow. While a researcher, he contributed to the publication of ten books and over 100 scholarly journal articles. As a family sociologist, demographer, and marriage and family therapist, he was the founding editor of the Journal of Family Issues.[3] Spanier was also an author of a study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior concerning the practice of mate swapping, or “swinging”.[4]”


14 posted on 11/09/2011 10:41:32 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Cain Train is rollin'!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I assume you are speculating, or is there a source for this?


15 posted on 11/09/2011 11:02:23 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: abb

Former PA Gov. Tom Ridge is rumored to be his replacement.

Next to Graham Spanier he suddenly looks like Barry Goldwater.


16 posted on 11/09/2011 11:03:10 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: comebacknewt; Black Agnes; little jeremiah

See 14.


17 posted on 11/09/2011 11:07:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Erik Latranyi

‘Spanier brought the era of homosexual tolerance to Penn State after he did the same at UNL.’

Yes, and part of principled tolerance of the sodomite lifestyle is winking at pedophilia. The “lifestyle” and pedophilia are closely connected.

The sodomite lifestyle should be recriminalized.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 11:09:40 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Spanier brought the era of homosexual tolerance to Penn State after he did the same at UNL.”

Please elaborate...


19 posted on 11/09/2011 11:11:07 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: abb

Paterno announced today that he will retire at the end of this season. That may not be good enough to take the heat off.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 11:11:14 AM PST by randita (I'm not a percentage. I'm a free person.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

Like they say, it is an ill wind that blows no good.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 11:19:18 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: bkepley

Spanier should do the right thing and fire Michael Mann while he is at it.


22 posted on 11/09/2011 11:19:52 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Erik Latranyi
Spanier brought the era of homosexual tolerance to Penn State after he did the same at UNL. This is the radical homosexual agenda on display -— there is no such thing as pedophilia.

You got this right. As an alum his homosexual agenda at Nebraska was & continues to be why I will never contribute to that university again. Finally after some 6 calls they got the message. As far as Penn State the fish stinks from the head down & that place is decadent.

23 posted on 11/09/2011 11:21:21 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: abb

Spanier will probably retire with a mega public pension and benefits much of it paid for by taxpayers. He and others like him who live like kings on the public dole should lose their pensions when incompetency and potential criminality leads to public abuse or costs. We have too many of Spanier’s ilk running publicly (and private) funded institutions of higher education in America that will cover up crime on campus for the reputation and their football programs.


24 posted on 11/09/2011 11:21:51 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The AG will NOT say that Spanier is NOT a target.

She has said that Paterno is not a target.

25 posted on 11/09/2011 11:22:41 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"A Pennsylvania State Police computer expert analyzed the computer and found that its hard drive was missing."

Regular expert genius.

26 posted on 11/09/2011 11:23:03 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Comparative Advantage

The board of regents for the University of Nebraska are in the process of approving the “Plus One” benefit which allows benefits for same sex partners. This is necessary in order to get the “Best Faculty” and be competitive with other Universities. (Gay is better than Straight?) While Spanier would approve, it it well beyond his watch.


27 posted on 11/09/2011 11:25:55 AM PST by All Blue State
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To: Paladin2
"A Pennsylvania State Police computer expert analyzed the computer and found that its hard drive was missing."

Regular expert genius.

;-)

28 posted on 11/09/2011 11:32:08 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: abb
Head coach Joe Paterno, the winningest coach in Division I history, announced this morning he will retire at the end of the season.

JoePa, What did you know?? I believe that JoePa is the innocent victim in this.

29 posted on 11/09/2011 11:36:07 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: GnL; All

Luke 10:25-37

King James Version (KJV)

” 25.And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26.He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27.And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28.And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

29.But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

30.And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31.And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32.And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33.But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34.And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

35.And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36.Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37.And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

the parable of “the Good Samaritan” seems a good fit here ...


30 posted on 11/09/2011 11:37:28 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Get serious.


31 posted on 11/09/2011 11:40:20 AM PST by karnage
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To: Erik Latranyi
Spanier gets Sandusky in and asks him if the sex with the boy was consensual. Sandusky says “yes” and the matter is closed.

That's a serious charge. I have not heard that reported. Do you have a source?
32 posted on 11/09/2011 11:52:58 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente

Spanier is a liberal, homosexual advocate.

Obama considered Spanier as his Secretary of Education in 2008.

Spanier advanced the LGBT agenda at UNL and at Penn State.

If you embrace the homosexual agenda to its fullest extent, you must embrace the concept that minors can give consent.

I think the roots of the Sandusky cover-up is an extreme tolerance for the homosexual agenda that was spearheaded by Spanier.


33 posted on 11/09/2011 12:02:42 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
All well and good, but your post charges that Sandusky actually said those things and Spanier explicitly agreed.

I have not seen that reported anywhere.

34 posted on 11/09/2011 12:20:01 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: karnage

Completely innocent no.

But I question where the “moral” responsibility ends. If I make a report to my supervisors based on a report from my subordinate, that I did not witness, as required by company policy, am I also “morally” expected to go outside of that policy and call the police? Before they can even investigate the report?

Why does the man who reported to Paterno get off free? Where did his moral responsibility end?

What about the parents? None of them knew or suspected anything? If any of them contacted PSU officials without a satisfactory response did they then follow up with a call to the PSP? Why not? Where is their moral responsibility.

Things were done wrong here and I don’t excuse Sandusky or the PSU administration, but expecting Paterno to personally pursue the man to the gates of hell and light the fire before he left is a slippery slope.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 12:23:01 PM PST by Sursam Abordine
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To: Sursam Abordine

Did Paterno meet the letter of the law? Perhaps yes.

Did he meet the moral obligations expected of someone of his stature and tenure? The verdict is still out on that, but the facts of the case as known now indicate he did not.


36 posted on 11/09/2011 12:32:46 PM PST by randita (I'm not a percentage. I'm a free person.)
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37 posted on 11/09/2011 12:57:53 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Sursam Abordine
But I question where the “moral” responsibility ends. If I make a report to my supervisors based on a report from my subordinate, that I did not witness, as required by company policy, am I also “morally” expected to go outside of that policy and call the police? Before they can even investigate the report?

The issue is that Joe saw NOTHING was done after he told Curley. He knew that rapist was still raping. What did he do. He kept quiet.

Why does the man who reported to Paterno get off free? Where did his moral responsibility end?

Most here totally agree that McQueary wimped out.

What about the parents? None of them knew or suspected anything? If any of them contacted PSU officials without a satisfactory response did they then follow up with a call to the PSP? Why not? Where is their moral responsibility.

A mother went to the authorities in 1998. They got Sandusky cold. The DA wouldn't prosecute.

The mother that finally broke this even had her son's school officials urging her not to report it. Fortunately she did.

What did Joe do. Nothing.

38 posted on 11/09/2011 2:21:32 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: randita
Did Paterno meet the letter of the law? Perhaps yes.

Perhaps yes. He knew that the 2002 report was never filed with child services thus he knew that school officials were knowingly violating state law. He knew that PSU was knowingly harboring a sex offender in his facilities.

39 posted on 11/09/2011 2:24:10 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Sursam Abordine

Paterno is toast.


40 posted on 11/09/2011 2:52:23 PM PST by karnage
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To: NewinTexsas

I can think of no excuses for JoePa not following up on the information he relayed to his superiors. More will come out in time and maybe there’s a rationale why he didn’t follow up. Maybe he was lied to by his superiors. They lied to the grand jury so they were proven liars.

If there’s not a rationale, then Joe will have to live the rest of his life with the knowledge that he had the means to stop a pedophile and did not. And many boys will suffer for the rest of their lives because he failed them.

He needs to go now - not at the end of the season. Every game from now on is going to be an ordeal for all involved, even the fans. If the big donor alumni started making a stink, this would get resolved pretty fast.


41 posted on 11/09/2011 5:56:25 PM PST by randita (I'm not a percentage. I'm a free person.)
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