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Marine beaten to death at Camp Pendleton
MSNBC.com ^ | 11/09/11 | NBC, msnbc.com and news services

Posted on 11/09/2011 1:04:05 PM PST by ColdOne

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. — A 19-year-old found dead in his Camp Pendleton barracks had been beaten to death by a fellow Marine, investigators say.

Lance Cpl. Mario Arias Jr., from Canoga Park, Calif., was attacked at the San Diego County base over the weekend, authorities said.

The air crew trainee, from Marine Light Attack Helicopter Training Squadron 303, Marine Aircraft Group 39, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, enlisted in August 2010.

The Naval Criminal Investigation Service said the suspect is being treated in a hospital for "significant injuries" sustained when he jumped from a third-floor balcony.

Ed Buice, spokesman for NCIS at its headquaters in Quantico, Va., told msnbc.com that neither the suspect's identity nor the hospital where he is being treated would be released until charges had been brought.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmartial; marinecorps; marines

1 posted on 11/09/2011 1:04:08 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Just hoping this is not somehow related to the sexual orientation of either or both Marines.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 1:07:21 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: ColdOne

Sad.


3 posted on 11/09/2011 1:07:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ColdOne

*groans*

Hope the dead guy wasn’t gay or we’ll never hear the end of this....


4 posted on 11/09/2011 1:08:02 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: ColdOne

“The Naval Criminal Investigation Service said the suspect is being treated in a hospital for “significant injuries” sustained when he jumped from a third-floor balcony.”

Looks like out suspect just signed up for a Life Long Enlistment in our military and will be stationed at Ft. Levenworth.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 1:08:25 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: ColdOne
So...let me see if I have this right.

A guy is beat to death...and the perp jumps out a 3 story window?

Quite a bit of drama here.....

Seems gay.

6 posted on 11/09/2011 1:10:54 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Tzimisce

More likely an Ego clash between a wanna be alpha and another devil dog who wouldn’t roll over for anyone without the stripes to merit such.

Or over women.


7 posted on 11/09/2011 1:12:22 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Tzimisce; NEMDF; All

http://canogaparkhs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=222534&id=0


8 posted on 11/09/2011 1:14:05 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: NEMDF

If that is the case, you’ll hear more of these type of stories.

Pandora’s gay box is blown wide open.


9 posted on 11/09/2011 1:17:19 PM PST by 353FMG (.)
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To: ColdOne

A Code Red that went horribly wrong?


10 posted on 11/09/2011 1:17:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Tzimisce

If he was gay he’s not anymore.


11 posted on 11/09/2011 1:23:25 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Responsibility2nd

You can’t handle the truth.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 1:30:38 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: All

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13 posted on 11/09/2011 1:32:50 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: ColdOne

Is Leroy Jethro Gibbs doing the interrogation?


14 posted on 11/09/2011 1:35:09 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: ColdOne

Very unusual event. In my 21 years in the Corps I never heard of a case like this happening. Fist fights in the barracks, sure, usually over women with alcohol and ego mixed in.

But to the death? Unusual. In spite of what Hollywood would try to tell you.


15 posted on 11/09/2011 1:37:19 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Tzimisce

This was so violent that it may well have involved 2 sodomites - one of whom felt “rejected” or jealous...


16 posted on 11/09/2011 1:41:20 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SandyInSeattle

You would think someone would have heard something and try to stop it?


17 posted on 11/09/2011 1:43:55 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: achilles2000

If I were a betting man I would bet on that.

We will see I suppose.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 1:47:08 PM PST by Venturer
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To: SandyInSeattle
Very common in the Army, in Germany due to drug deals, mostly heroin, during the '70s when I was enlisted as a medic, and psych specialist.

There was a soldier found floating in the river with a 2x4 thru his sleaves.

A captain was locked in a locker and tossed out a third story window. He wasn't dead after the first drop, so they took him for a second drop.

We knew of heroin dealers who were Viet Nam vets. They brought home a very dark side of that war.

19 posted on 11/09/2011 1:48:18 PM PST by WestwardHo
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To: cardinal4; Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo

No, I believe it is in other capable hands.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 1:49:46 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: NEMDF

“Just hoping this is not somehow related to the sexual orientation...” or race. Arias signed up in ‘10, before DADT was eliminated. Just sad, no matter the circumstances.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 1:51:55 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: ColdOne

That’s what I’m wondering. Somebody knew enough to say that the confrontation was over the suspect’s drinking, and they could only know that if they were present.

Something’s not making sense here.


22 posted on 11/09/2011 1:53:59 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: WestwardHo

Things must have calmed down by the time I enlisted.

Although, one night when I had barracks duty a drunk Marine did try to toss me off the second deck of the barracks. He was too drunk to manage it, thankfully, and was properly contrite the next morning after his friends told him what he did. Too late, it was already in the log book. Wonder whatever happened to him?


23 posted on 11/09/2011 1:55:56 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Somebody knew enough to say that the confrontation was over the suspect’s drinking, and they could only know that if they were present.

Or if it were a constant occurance.

24 posted on 11/09/2011 1:57:44 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ColdOne

gay?


25 posted on 11/09/2011 2:03:16 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SandyInSeattle
What jumped out at me was "jumped from thethird story"....I know it's been almost 45 years, but there was nothing there higher than a two story. Things change:


26 posted on 11/09/2011 2:11:08 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ErnBatavia

YOu bet they do. These kids live in palaces compared to the nasty squadbay I endured in Okinawa.


27 posted on 11/09/2011 2:13:28 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: achilles2000
This was so violent that it may well have involved 2 sodomites - one of whom felt “rejected” or jealous...

If it was two queers we will never read or hear about it in the MSM.

28 posted on 11/09/2011 2:13:32 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: ColdOne

Since DADT has been stricken, the suspicion should be:

“Did he Tell them that he was a homosexual, and the Ask them to perform a homosexual act?”

I have been predicting a rash of military homicides from this for years. And soon, commanders will learn the lesson that under *no* circumstances should those homicides be recorded as because of the sexuality of anyone involved.

This will include the murderer, who will be bluntly told that if he fabricates *any* other reason for the murder, he will get years’ less time in prison.


29 posted on 11/09/2011 2:15:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ColdOne
the suspect was apparently drinking when he was confronted by Arias about his alcohol use, causing the suspect to become enraged.

Sounds gay, but we'll have to wait and see. When I was in the Army, there were a lot of guys drinking themselves to an early grave. I never "confronted" any of them, not even the ones I liked, because it was none of my business.

30 posted on 11/09/2011 2:17:58 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: WestwardHo

I volunteered for VN in ‘70 to get out of our drug ridden racially divided kaserne. Much safer out in War Zone C than in the barracks at night with various stoners, dealers, junkies, and race haters running around.


31 posted on 11/09/2011 2:19:15 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

Much safer out in War Zone C than in the barracks at night with various stoners, dealers, junkies, and race haters running around.

Those were the times when “low risk criminals” had a choice of going in the army or going to jail. We had some real treasures in the women’s barracks.


32 posted on 11/09/2011 2:23:46 PM PST by WestwardHo
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To: SandyInSeattle

No somethings not.


33 posted on 11/09/2011 2:24:50 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: NEMDF
He probably played for the other team!
34 posted on 11/09/2011 2:25:26 PM PST by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: WestwardHo
They were still putting low riskers in in the Carter years.


We had a guy that had restored two ‘57 Chevies in high school. Carried pictures of them around in his wallet, and would pull them out the way other guys showed off their wives or girl friends.

One was stock, and the other was balanced and blueprinted with nitrous injection and similarly beefed up steering and suspension.

The kid would blow into some Midwest town, pick up some local girl, and cruise the local strip, After a week or so, he would race some local hotshot for pink slips. Then he would skip town before the newly carless discovered that the car was a ringer.

Alas, he eventually blew into a town where his floozy of the week turned out to be the local judges daughter (and an overly mature looking fourteen). Ergot - Marine Corps.

His mom sold both those cars while we were at stumps.

35 posted on 11/09/2011 2:36:24 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: NEMDF

Hate to say it but that was my first thought.


36 posted on 11/09/2011 2:43:37 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: NEMDF

it fits the pattern for either one or both being homosexual.


37 posted on 11/09/2011 3:37:58 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: NEMDF

While stationed at Mainside at Camp Pendleton in the late 70s, a lance corporal bludgeoned to death a corporal in the enlisted quarters where I lived....simply for being passed over for promotion.


38 posted on 11/09/2011 3:41:33 PM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read the entire post.)
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To: elpadre
it fits the pattern for either one or both being homosexual.

There's no evidence that either one is a sodomite. One was drinking and the drink may simply have compromised any sound judgment he may have had.

Drink first compromises judgment. And after considerable drinking only then it will effect ability. He apparently was not compromised enough to not be able beat the other marine to death. But he was compromised judgmentally enough to jump from the 3rd floor.

39 posted on 11/09/2011 4:34:47 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: ErnBatavia

Yes and a big new hospital coming up by the I-5 gate in O-side.


40 posted on 11/09/2011 4:38:05 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: RitchieAprile
What's a kaserne?
41 posted on 11/09/2011 4:42:49 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: morphing libertarian; onyx
Yes and a big new hospital coming up by the I-5 gate in O-side.

Does Oceanbag (that's what we called it) still have that stupid "Tan your hide in Oceanside" banner?

I spent Christmas of '67 in the isolation ward of the old 'Mainside' base hospital, which then was a huge, meandering one-story maze that covered acres it seemed. I'd been on mess duty as "Salad Man" with my bare arms mixing greens all day long when I came down with Rubella a/k/a German Measles........heh; I started a plague.

Welcome to FR, by the way....and be sure and locate (and act upon!) the Donate Now button; you won't regret it.

42 posted on 11/09/2011 4:54:06 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ErnBatavia

Thanx.

I think the base hospital is now 4-5 stores. Still run by the Navy.

The new one will be much larger. They say the’ll be doing therapy for the wounded there.

Haven’t seen that sign. We live downtown and we fondly call the downtown Marinetown. Our son was at CP Camp Marguerita until he got embassy duty, MSG.


43 posted on 11/09/2011 7:37:07 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: NEMDF

Did you read the article or just the excerpt?


44 posted on 11/09/2011 7:50:40 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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