Posted on 11/09/2011 2:23:57 PM PST by Colofornian
Those guys had a reputation for sleazy recruiting.
When did anybody ever accuse Paterno of such?
The guy has been squeaky clean and now gets back-stabbed by a bunch of media-inspired, gutless Trustees.
You’re disappointed in my ethics? Well, I’m disappointed in the judgnental pontifications of those who think they are morally superior than everyone else.
Yes, what Mr. Sandusky did was reprehensible. I never condoned his actions, nor did I condone the inactions of those who should have done more to protect the victims. I do question the harsh punishment applied to Coach Paterno. I didn’t say he should
not have been punished for his inaction. Why could he not have retired at the end of the season as he indicated he would do? For someone who had made football and Penn State so much a major part of his life for all these years, I think not having Penn State football in his life would be punishment enough.
Well's let see. That must make you morally superior then, eh?
Oh. That's a problem then for you. Isn't it?
If you claim moral superiority. And you think those who "judge" others as less "superior" than others is a problem.
Then I guess by your own standards, you've just "disappointed" yourself.
(Nice self-refutation)
For someone who had made football and Penn State so much a major part of his life for all these years, I think not having Penn State football in his life would be punishment enough.
Punishment? Allowing someone to continue to call the shots -- including choosing their own retirement -- is "punishments?"
If you've ever been a parent. And your kid allows something horrendous to occur on their watch. And you allow them to "choose" what they want to do as "punishment," no wonder your ethics are questionable.
I never claimed superiority. You read a lot of things in what I’ve written. Things that aren’t there.
But go ahead. Be judgmental. Think of yourself as arbiter of all that is right and good. I pray that someday you will be shown mercy even though you don’t show mercy to others.
I never claimed superiority. You read a lot of things in what I’ve written. Things that aren’t there.
But go ahead. Be judgmental. Think of yourself as arbiter of all that is right and good. I pray that someday you will be shown mercy even though you don’t show mercy to others.
What do you call someone looking DOWN upon what you call "judgmental pontifications" while judging them as trying to be "morally superior?" (Your post #82: "Well, I’m disappointed in the judgnental pontifications of those who think they are morally superior than everyone else.")
Therefore you were claiming you were ABOVE being guilty of "judgmental pontifications" even as you were issuing a "judgmental pontification" upon others -- accusing them of pontificating judgmentally!
(That's what I meant by self-refutation...you were guilty of what you were accusing somebody else of!)
But go ahead. Be judgmental
Did you know that to label someone as "judgmental" is to yourself be "judgmental?" You are indeed "judging" me. Why are your "judgments" pure and my discernment isn't?
So, first (post #82) you judge another as being guilty of "judgmental pontifications" AND claiming to be "morally superior" [that's TWO judging phrases in one sentence]; then you judged me as being judgmental [judgment #3]
Think of yourself as arbiter of all that is right and good.
Are you sarcastically trying to imply I am an arbiter of all that's evil and wrong? [Judgment-by-implication...judgment #4?]
I pray that someday you will be shown mercy even though you don’t show mercy to others.
"...some day"...meaning that you are not willing to "show mercy" me to today...and yet that's exactly what you condemn and judge me for [Judgment #5]...is apparently failure to show mercy today.
Are you trying to set the FREEPER record for the most self-refutations within a few posts? In reverse order...your 2-faced hypocrisy for ALL to see:
#6: You condemned me for not showing mercy TODAY even as you failed to show mercy to me TODAY.
#5: You sarcastically accused me of advocating for all that's right and good even even as you (in post #59) adopted a seemingly "whatever is legal is moral" equivocation approach to ethics...you said in post #59: ..."he was not legally required to do so under the school's policies. He did what he was supposed to do from a legal standpoint."
#4, #3: You accused me of judging and judging via "pontifications" even as you repeatedly judged me today.
#2 You accused me of trying to be "morally superior" even as you looked DOWN upon me, implying you were somehow ABOVE that.
#1: And you accused me of "pontificating" even as you pontificated, thereby further reinforcing your indication that you are supposedly morally superior to engage in that.
SIX self-refutations...all within a few posts.
I hereby nominate you, FATnotlazy, as the 2011 FREEPER Self-Refuter of the Year!
Oh, and if you think we are...
...to show mercy today, then show it today.
...not to either judge or discern, then stop judging.
...not to pontificate, then don't.
...not to come across as morally superior, then, hey, stop looking DOWN upon other posters' comments when it comes to discussing ethical issues.
Live what you preach! ('Cause otherwise your double-standards confuse readers: What? Do we embrace FATnotlazy's preachy sermons; or by what that poster lives?)
All I can say is, WOW!
And now I’ll add you to the list of FREEPERS I’m glad I don’t know in real life.
No admission of your double standards?
No pointing to some special religious licenses that you got from somewhere that gives YOU a special privilege to ponticate, to judge, to accuse, to look down upon, and to withhold mercy...all as you judgmentally accuse others of pontificating, judging, claiming moral superior status, and withholding mercy today?
Who issued you these licenses?
Are they valid? Authoritative?
Or were they self-prescribed?
“When will someone at Penn State stand up and assume the adult status and start leading for God’s sake?”
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As soon as “judgmentalism” ceasees to be a dirty word.
The leadership you crave requires decisiveness, courage, a willingness to punish, but more fundamentally, a strong sense of what is basically right and wrong.
A concept nearing extinction, not just at PSU, and among the moral equivalence cowards in academia, but throughout western society in general.
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