Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian
“Is there a pecking order of who to forgive?”
Yes. People who participate in pedophilia and those who excuse/allow it are at the bottom of that list. To compare it with under age drinking in any capacity is disgusting
What’s disgusting is the vile hatred and general ignorance on display.
I take it you think underage drinking is kind of a joke. I didn’t notice a whole lot of laughter at the two funerals I recently attended for a couple of teenage boys killed in an accident resulting from underage drinking.
Exactly. McQueary, by his own testimony, saw a naked boy in the shower being raped by a naked Sandusky. There is no question about whether that is a crime, even if the boy wasn't screaming and crying. If McQueary saw Sandusky punching the boy, would he have waited to see what his dad and Paterno said to do? Now this doesn't mean Paterno is in the clear, but it puts it in perspective.
If you compare anal rape of a child and the coverup that has gone along with it with under age drinking you need professional help and a conscience transplant because yours seems to be entirely non-functional. What other evil would you care to excuse so easily?
You show me where I made light of under age drinking in my statement and I’ll apologise leave FR forever. Since I didn’t, have the integrety to admit that. Talk about disgusting, you are this thread’s poster boy for it.
But when I’m dealing with someone who cannot aparently see the sheer evil of homosexual child rape, nor the evil of those covering it up, I have to think you and integerty ever met for lunch.
BTW did those boys have alcohol forced upon them or were they hit by a drunk driver? Since you say they were under age drinking I’ll assume that they UNFORTUNATELY suffered the very real consequence of a very stupid decision they made. Sometimes life’s lessons are quite harsh indeed.
I don’t think the victims of a pedophile chose their fate. It was literally thrust upon them. Notice the difference? Both situations are terrible, but using dead kids to attempt to defend your barf inducing position just makes you one very sick puppy.
The writer of the Collegian article is obviously addicted to her impulses and compulsions in the same way as an alcoholic or drug user is enslaved.
Progressivism is really regressivism, which is why contemporary America is a high-rise, high-tech version of ancient Carthage.
If Augustine was to return he would undoubtedly say “there is nothing new under the sun. What once was will be again.” As he entered that ‘Sodom’ of so long ago he described it as sizzling and burning with unholy loves. That being the case, “gays” and the article writer are modern temple prostitutes and children exist for self-gratification.
She would also likely be the first to scream rape when a dude followed her advice.
Show ME where I have condoned, in any way, child rape. Show me where I have condoned evil in any way.
My original point was in reference to the pathetic defense of excusing crime except in “SPECIFIC” circumstances. I cited three examples: societal approval of underage drinking, drug abuse, and internet porn which has opened up a whole new world to child molesters. You latch on to underage drinking and say I am equating it to child rape. Show me where I equate the two. Saying I am using the death of a couple of kids to defend a position is a cheap shot. Especially from someone using raped boys as a plaform to make an argument.
Your personal attacks on me are proof of your limited intelect, and bad temper. Between us, I dare say, it is YOU who are in true need of professional help.
Try Anger Management.
I agree. The media is making this guy out to be some kind of whistleblower or just a young kid intimidated by Paterno. BS. He was an adult man witnessing the rape of a child (by his own testimony). How could anyone not immediately call 911 upon seeing that?
Here’s the grand jury report. Explains why the kid(s) where there.
This homo bastard set up a foundation for troubled youths so he would have access to kids.
The kids came from troubled/dysfunctional homes; single parent, no parent supervision.
They were wide open targets for this homo pervert.
You are condeming people who are condeming child rape and those who have taken part in a coverup of it so what does that imply?
Try logic 101.
YOU brought up underage drinking in a discussion involving child rape as if the two are somehow moraly equivilant.
“Wow.
In EVERY inner city there are intersections where drugs are openly dealt. EVERYONE knows about it. The City Government, the police, and literally thousands of others. It goes on unabated. Everyone knows and no one does a thing to stop it. Deaths due to OD are the result. Some of them are children.
How responsible, MORALLY, are “those that let it continue”?
EVERY UNIVERSITY in America gives a “wink and a nod” to underage drinking. Every year kids die. How responsible, are “those that let it continue”.
WE ALL KNOW that the internet is full of child pornography.
It has made life so much easier for pedophiles. What is being done about it? If we stand by, and do nothing, knowing about it, are WE “those that let it continue”?
Right is Right and Evil is Evil no matter how close one is to a situation. Not being as close to the situation is a sorry, lame-ass excuse.
Why did the Lord Jesus say to the men, fully confident that they were about to do the right thing and stone the adulterous woman, “Let Him without sin cast the first stone.” None did. The Lord tells the woman “GO, and sin no more.”
Is there a pecking order of who to forgive? I’ll confess I’m in no mood to forgive Sandusky. He must be held legally responsible for the rape he has committed. Paterno, McQueary, and the others need to be held legally responsible too. If this is the one time in life these men(outside of Sandusky) failed to do the right thing, does that mean they are forever to be despised and rejected? How, and can, they ever make things right?”
I think you need to reread your full anf follow up posts for context. As in whining about us condemning people involved in child rape and you are concerned they won’t be forgiven because “the one time in life these men(outside of Sandusky) failed to do the right thing”.
You say you are in no mood to forgive and then condemn those who verbally confirm that position??? Contradict yourself much???
At post 81, is the link to the GJ presentation.
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
>> “What kind of person witnesses the rape of a child and walks away letting the rape continue?” <<
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The average liberal ‘intellectual.’
Chill dude!
You’re flaming someone that agrees with you.
I don’t see it that way, all posts considered, but there is little point continnuing.
From the Grand Jury Report:
Victim 7 had not had contact with Sandusky for 2 years but what contacted by Sandasky and separately Sandusky’s wife and another Sandusky friend in the weeks prior to Victim 7’s appearance before the Grand Jury. The callers left messages saying the matter was very important. Victim 7 did not return these phone calls.
Makes me wonder, just what did Dottie Sandusky know and when did she know it? Just how many people were covering for and enabling this sick pervert to rape young boys. Sandusky had 6 adopted children. I wonder if they were all boys.
I didn’t know that about Keynes. If anything remotely positive were to come of this ugly situation, it would be to shine a light on the deviant acts of homosexuality and to once and for all stop pushing it on America’s children as normal behavior.
I don't get it either, something is not right. No adult man or woman could witness such an assault and not do something. I'm waiting for more info cause what I am reading currently does not compute.
They will proclaim that Sandusky is "straight", after all he's still married.
I agree. The country is divided anyway and we are falling, thanks to the libs. Let’s split the states and be done with it. Pick a side.... If only it were that simple.
Yes indeed, heading straight downward in a screaming nosedive into the abyss - I mean “utopia”.
Thanks for the link. I saw that earlier. This thing just gets more and more bizarre.NOW I see where McQueary is going to coach on Saturday.UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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