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Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier
AP/Newser.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Genaro C. Armas

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: TomB

Certainly specific enough for most normal people to be alarmed and then notify proper authorities.

How they still could stand the sight of Sandusky and be anywhere near him after hearing even an inclination of something like that, I’ll never understand.


781 posted on 11/10/2011 5:05:33 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: RobertClark

With all due respect, your comments are utterly worthless. We’re private citizens, not part of the judicial system. Which, btw, is highly corrupt in many places in this country.


782 posted on 11/10/2011 5:06:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: conservativebabe
How they still could stand the sight of Sandusky and be anywhere near him after hearing even an inclination of something like that, I’ll never understand.

If you've been following this since Saturday (I live about an hour or so from campus, so its been pretty much 24-7 around here), you saw a gradual shift in the focus of the coverage from Sandusky to Paterno. And your statement above explains why that happened, and, I believe, why Paterno is gone right now.

What is truly puzzling is that Paterno testified to the grand jury over a year ago, so he and school officials knew that this was happening, and that Paterno's statement would become public knowledge. But their response this week made it seem like they were caught completely off guard.

783 posted on 11/10/2011 5:38:11 PM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Colofornian

mrkd


784 posted on 11/10/2011 5:49:43 PM PST by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: LeonardFMason; Norm Lenhart
How, and can, they ever make things right?

You'd better have this.

Cheers!

785 posted on 11/10/2011 5:52:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LeonardFMason
He kept up an undeserved reputation for integrity while first allowing (by inaction) Sandusky to remain free, and secondly (by not acting) indirectly allowing more boys to be violated.

It is Paterno's continuing status as an icon despite the moral failings in something correctly held to be within his sphere of responsibility which gets people angry.

Cheers!

786 posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Pharmboy

Your mom loves UMichigan. Your sympathy is with the innocent students? You are so mushy you don’t even see your FEELINGS ARE NOT RELEVANT to this issue or on this forum.They aren’t kids and you have no discernment.


787 posted on 11/10/2011 5:57:09 PM PST by Havisham
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To: Pharmboy

Your mom loves UMichigan. Your sympathy is with the innocent students? You are so mushy you don’t even see your FEELINGS ARE NOT RELEVANT to this issue or on this forum.They aren’t kids and you have no discernment.


788 posted on 11/10/2011 6:00:16 PM PST by Havisham
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To: Pharmboy; All

Your mom loves UMichigan. Your sympathy is with the innocent students? You are so mushy you don’t even see your FEELINGS ARE NOT RELEVANT to this issue or on this forum.They aren’t kids and you have no discernment.


789 posted on 11/10/2011 6:01:47 PM PST by Havisham
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To: fortheDeclaration

There also is a much more consequential element involving Paterno and his staff not being discussed here.

There was a time, and I hope still remains, where collegiant football also taught the value of virtue, sportsmanship, volition and endurance in the face of adversity.

Adversity is inevitable, but leaders with virtue become winners when they persevere in their steadfast faith, regardless the worldly consequence.

I never had been a fan of Paterno, mainly because I sensed a lack of virtue in his performance of sportsmanship, but I also admit his team wasn’t one of my teams to cheer to victory,...so I may be jaundiced in my perception of his performance.

Maybe PSU can land a coach with virtue to turn the place around and after it develops new priorities can then return to insisting upon victory as well as virtue, but virtue first.


790 posted on 11/10/2011 6:10:33 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: manc

Those idiot (kids) are rioting now wait till they graduate and find no jobs.


791 posted on 11/10/2011 6:12:36 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: angcat

I hope they decide to move out of the country and never come back.

I have kids but I have to ask this.
How on earth do their parents raise these fools?

They must surely know that boys have been raped and molested at THEIR SCHOOL for YEARS and it is coming out there has been a cover up plus a DA go missing when he tried to look into this.


792 posted on 11/10/2011 6:17:12 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: TomB

That is puzzling. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps they are trying to save face now that it’s gaining national attention.

Is it possible the school officials weren’t privy to exactly what Paterno had said in his statement? Doubtful but just wondering.

At worst, and likely in reality and truth is that there is just a really twisted cover up riddled with lies surrounding this whole thing.

If the Madden allegations turn out to be true Joe and all involved got WAY bigger problems.


793 posted on 11/10/2011 6:18:12 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: manc
I remember that DA story years ago. Those kids are the product of that so called great school. Smucks.
794 posted on 11/10/2011 6:19:03 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: gimme1ibertee

http://www.firemikemcqueary.com/


795 posted on 11/10/2011 6:21:56 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: angcat

maybe they can now investigate what happened to that DA because once he went away so did the investigation into this.
Seems this story goes deeper than those students would have us believe.

I don’t know Penn state , never been there, don’t know anyone who has but I think they need to look at their professors and what these kids are being told.

Sadly I think it’s not just Penn but near me it;s UNF.

I’m so happy my boys are looking into military colleges and my oldest wants the Citadel in SC.


796 posted on 11/10/2011 6:24:27 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: Havisham
OK...I give up...sorry I wasted the electrons. I will now type slowly so perhaps you will understand.

You are clearly incapable of comprehending basic facts, and I don't know whether it's ignorance or stupidity, or some combination of the two, but it doesn't matter.

But posting the same unintelligible drivel THREE times makes it clear to me that you truly need to change your medication, adjust the dose or, if you're not on anything, seek help.

797 posted on 11/10/2011 6:32:34 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: TomB
What is truly puzzling is that Paterno testified to the grand jury over a year ago, so he and school officials knew that this was happening, and that Paterno's statement would become public knowledge. But their response this week made it seem like they were caught completely off guard.

Yes. So evidenced in this article from the CBS Affiliate (21) out of the Harrisburg area:
Penn State's handling of Sandusky sex scandal has been a PR nightmare, say experts

As you said, these PR experts were totally surprised Penn State had "no plan" in place.

From that article:

“It's a total breakdown,” agreed Roger Kelley of Central Penn College. “It's amazing, Penn State is a top 10 player in football, but in terms of public relations, they were pretty much a bush-league operation.”
The experts all agree. What happened in Penn State was terrible, but how Penn State handled it, made it much worse. First off, the university didn't seem to have any...plan.
People at the school knew Jerry Sandusky had a past. The university should have been prepared for this when the news hit.
“What is Penn State going to do to make sure this doesn't happen again?” questioned Peter Shelly of Shelly Communications. “What is the university's plan moving forward? That is not what they talked about right out of the shoot.”

798 posted on 11/10/2011 6:34:32 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: KansasGirl; Lancey Howard
McQueary has not been fired. He needs to be fired immediately

Many of us FREEPERS have surmised that he is a state's witness who is turning evidence re: the star prosecution witness vs. the VP, the AD, and perhaps the PSU prez as well.

That would mean there is some agreement for PSU to not "touch him" job-wise right now...

But obviously, everybody knows a new head coach has a right to name who his assts/head of recruiting will be...

I don't think McQueary wants to remain in State College beyond what he has to do re: getting thru these next 3 games & finding a job outside of the region.

FREEPER Lancey Howard is from that region...he mentioned today: McQueery is getting absolutely buried in the local media, both the newspapers and talk radio. Buried. NO WAY does he show his face on the Penn State sidelines (or any other sidelines) ever again. Take that to the bank. [Post #77]
AND: Here is what everybody is suddenly focusing on now that they bagged their big game in Paterno: Mike McQueary, the burly 28-year-old former Penn State quarterback, stumbled upon the naked old man Jerry Sandusky raping a 10-year-old child. McQueary says both of them locked eyes with him. The young boy likely thought, “Oh, thank God! I’m saved!” McQueary then backed away, left the building, and called his Dad. The NEXT DAY the two decided they should go tell Paterno. Trust me, if Carrot Top the Coward shows his face on the Penn State sidelines at Beaver Stadium this Saturday, he will be putting himself at risk. “Ugly” doesn’t begin to cover it. McQueary is history. It is that simple. [Post #84]
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799 posted on 11/10/2011 6:41:00 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: little jeremiah
With all due respect, your comments are utterly worthless. We’re private citizens, not part of the judicial system. Which, btw, is highly corrupt in many places in this country.

Sleep well mate - your apparent willingness to have the judicial system not be maintained of, by and for "private citizens" is exactly the apathetic position that allows it to be "corrupt in many places". I guess next you'll tell me that "private citizens" are not part of the government as well?!? It's no wonder our systems of justice and government are going to hell - everyone views them as someone else's problem and seeks to contort them in a manner that appeals to their personal sensibilities (or lack thereof). Cheers!

800 posted on 11/10/2011 6:46:10 PM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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