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PERRY DEBATE DISASTER: This Is The Moment That Officially Killed His Campaign — For Good (PAINFUL!)
Business Insider ^ | 11/09/2011 | Zeke Miller

Posted on 11/09/2011 8:44:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind

At today's CNBC debate Texas Gov. Rick Perry was asked a question about his tax and spending plan — but completely blew an otherwise strong answer by looking like a complete fool.

Perry was listing the three Cabinet agencies he wants to abolish — and forgot the third one.

From the transcript:

Perry: And I will tell you, it is three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. Commerce, Education, and the — what's the third one there? Let's see...Okay. Commerce, Education, and the —"

Ron Paul: EPA?

Perry: EPA, there you go.

Moderator: Seriously -- is epa one you are talking about?

Perry: No, sir, no, sir. we are talking about the -- agencies of government -- EPA needs to be rebuilt. >>

Moderator: you can't -- you can't name the third one?

Perry: The third agency of government I would -- I would do away with Education, the -- >> Commerce...Commerce and, let's see. I can't. The third one, I can't. Sorry. Oops.

About 15 minutes later, Perry said "It was the Department of Energy that I was reaching for before."

Watch the video below (the disaster kicks in at 1:00):

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 53seconds; campaign; debate; georgewperry; heartless; oops; perry; perry2012; rickperry
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe he needs a teleprompter? Seems I heard of someone who can’t get in front of a crowd without one...


61 posted on 11/10/2011 4:38:49 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

We are electing slick debaters. Almost like auditions to be actors.

Whose is the we you speak of. I had no say in how the process goes and you didn’t either. The Republican nominees EASILY could have gotten together and decided to not do any debates. They made the decision together to have 100 debates or whatever the number is. This is ALL in their hands not the voters. The voters are just watching what THEY themselves decided. If not for the debates, Perry probably would be the nominee, but HE MADE THE DECISION ALONG WITH THE OTHERS TO DO THESE DEBATES!!!! I don’t feel sorry for any of them and don’t take responsibility in their decisions either.


62 posted on 11/10/2011 6:25:07 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Some debates are needed. It's just the format on how they are done.
63 posted on 11/10/2011 6:28:37 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

RE: Sigh. Are there any declared candidates out there that aren’t damaged goods in some way?

This might be a good time for Sarah to reconsider

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1) What do you mean by damaged goods?

2) You think that the media or false accusers will let Sarah off so easy?


64 posted on 11/10/2011 6:34:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: equaviator
An onstage gaffe or awkward moment may cause some of the audience to wince, cringe or feel uncomfortable but since when has the public developed this preference to have a used car salesman give them the business?

I gotta disagree - if you can't walk into the lion's den known as the media, stare the lions down, tell everybody what you believe and why you believe it, you're not going to do a very good job of winning people to your side.

I watched Perry on a couple of different morning shows this morning, and he let the media airheads take control of the conversations. As soon as he starts talking about his campaign or bigger issues, they would steer it right back to last night. If Gingrich, Cain, and Santorum can take control of the narrative in their interviews, Perry should be able to as well.

Whether you like it or not, that's reality. Perry didn't drop in the polls because people liked Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan or because they liked the zingers that Newt hurled at the media, Perry dropped because of Perry.
65 posted on 11/10/2011 6:36:55 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: AmericanInTokyo
He’s done. Finished. Kaput. Mark the time, Scotty. Historic.

Perry can spend time in quiet retirement at the ranch in Paint Creek reading about those federal agencies he wanted to abolish in his book that someone ghost authored for him.

66 posted on 11/10/2011 6:41:06 AM PST by TADSLOS (Gov Jan Brewer has more balls than Rick Perry.)
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To: independent in tx

Well, I have only seen it every 10 minutes today.

Nah, the media didn’t latch on at all. LOL


67 posted on 11/10/2011 6:46:38 AM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind
1) What do you mean by damaged goods?
Every one of the major conservative candidates has been damaged either through self-inflicted wounds (e.g. Perry, Gingrich) or through massive smear campaigns (e.g. Cain, Bachmann).
2) You think that the media or false accusers will let Sarah off so easy?
Sarah differs from Cain in that she's a black belt in making her accusers look ridiculous. Cain is doing his best, but his political jiu jitsu skills are nothing compared with Sarah's.

68 posted on 11/10/2011 7:30:28 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: fireman15

Thanks fireman. I just heard Perry on video this morning and he is definitely NOT quitting. He was as focused on the issues as he could possibly be today. It truly is the media playing “gotcha” that is trying to derail him.

His so-called debate gaffes are so far less serious than those of other candidates and Obama it is ridiculous to even jump on them.

Gov. Rick Perry in 2012!


69 posted on 11/10/2011 7:51:46 AM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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70 posted on 11/10/2011 8:20:12 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: af_vet_rr

Last time I checked, the POTUS has a press secretary...

Presidential candidates should stand on their own and voters should be able to trivialize things like body language, smooth talk (think Obama, Clinton, Kerry...), personal style, what they have on their IPod, what they eat, boxers or briefs, etc. If the public is on the ball, they’d be well-informed enough to see past the day before.

It’s too damned bad that Perry’s image problem is how he’s perceived based on such meaningless chicken shit but that’s just the way it is. It’s too damned bad that some people expect a presidential candidate to appear somewhat as a song and dance man or woman. It’s too damned bad that the media tends to make the political process in this country look like just another branch of show biz.

Not only does the POTUS have a press secretary, there’s the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, CIA Director, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Labor and...oh yeah, what’s that other one again?...Secretary of the Interior...no wait...Secretary of Education...Secretary of Energy?

I think it’s possible, especially nowadays, to over-scrutinize to an extent that it needlessly wastes the reputations of otherwise worthy professionals and individuals.

‘Perfection’ can kiss my ass!


71 posted on 11/10/2011 2:57:30 PM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

He called people who opposed in-state tuition for illegals “heartless,” that’s where he lost me.


72 posted on 11/10/2011 2:59:44 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden and Zero say stupid things All.The.Time. They are two of the dumbest people ever to hold office I think.

I’m a Cain girl but I can’t fault Perry for a momentary lapse. Goodness knows everyone does it. But he’s a Republican so he’ll be the butt of jokes forever.


73 posted on 11/10/2011 3:00:59 PM PST by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: equaviator
Presidential candidates should stand on their own and voters should be able to trivialize things like body language, smooth talk (think Obama, Clinton, Kerry...), personal style, what they have on their IPod, what they eat, boxers or briefs, etc. If the public is on the ball, they’d be well-informed enough to see past the day before.

A lot of the public is not on the ball, and the undecideds do matter, and if you can't walk into the lion's den known as the media/debates and sell yourself and say what you believe and why you believe it and why you should be President, you won't win the undecideds over, and you'll lose.
74 posted on 11/10/2011 3:47:23 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Doesn’t anyone read anything that presidential candidates write about and have published?? Debate forums aren’t the only points of access that intelligent voters would be looking for.


75 posted on 11/11/2011 3:46:25 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: dfwgator

I heard that too. However, I know that anything can happen between now and the next debate, campaign event or convention to influence a candidate’s opinions and agenda. It’s going to be an even wilder ride between now and then. I’m looking forward to picking up and putting together the pieces for myself.


76 posted on 11/11/2011 3:52:04 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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