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Govt asks justices to stay out of immigration case
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:01 PM EST | PETE YOST

Posted on 11/10/2011 9:52:48 PM PST by Hunton Peck

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to stay out of a lawsuit involving Arizona's immigration law, saying lower courts properly blocked tough provisions targeting illegal immigrants.

The state law is a challenge to federal policy and is designed to establish Arizona's own immigration policy, the department's solicitor general said in a filing with the justices. Arizona says the law is an effort to cooperate with the federal government.

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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is seeking to overturn the judge's decision and wants Supreme Court review of the case, arguing that the issues are of compelling, nationwide importance.

The Justice Department disagreed.

"That several states have recently adopted new laws in this important area is not a sufficient reason for this court to grant review" of the first appeals court decision affirming a judge's preliminary ruling against part of one of those state laws, Justice told the high court.

(Excerpt) Read more at centurylink.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwars; doj; ericholder; illegalimmigration; scotus
When Holder's Justice Dept. isn't busy sticking its nose into matters that are none of its business, it's telling everyone else to keep their noses out.
1 posted on 11/10/2011 9:52:51 PM PST by Hunton Peck
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2 posted on 11/10/2011 9:59:17 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Hunton Peck

Checks and balances...

The executive branch and the judicial branch...

I vaguely remember learning something about that in college..

guess I was mistaken...


3 posted on 11/10/2011 10:00:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

PING


4 posted on 11/10/2011 10:01:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Hunton Peck
The Justice Department on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to stay out of a lawsuit involving Arizona's immigration law, saying lower courts properly blocked tough provisions targeting illegal immigrants.

This is about as plausible as Joe Paterno saying on Wednesday:

"I'm retiring at the end of the season - so there is no reason for the Board of Trustees to do anything. They should move on to more important things ..."

5 posted on 11/10/2011 10:01:40 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Hunton Peck

Considering that Holder’s “Justice Department” has helped create problems in Border States with operation “Fast and Furious” and God only knows what else, I think the SCOTUS should get involved. The DOJ has a conflict of interest here and appears to be on the wrong side of the laws it insists it should have sole enforcement powers over.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 10:07:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Checks and balances...

The executive branch and the judicial branch...

I vaguely remember learning something about that in college..

guess I was mistaken...

You missed the "super-secret" clause in Article III of the Constitution, also known as the "Obama\Holder" clause, which states:

"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court - except when it conflicts with Obama and/or Holder, in which case, they can pick and choose the inferior court decisions that agree with their point-of-view instead ..."

7 posted on 11/10/2011 10:09:08 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Hunton Peck
Justice department is full of it, this case has already been heard, and they know it, read de cannas v. Bica.
8 posted on 11/10/2011 10:09:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Hunton Peck

You try telling a judge what he can and can’t do...


9 posted on 11/10/2011 10:09:43 PM PST by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: Hunton Peck
Sorry Holder old buddy, old boy. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE US GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!

Impeach Barack Hussein Obama Now!

10 posted on 11/10/2011 10:12:09 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Lmo56

They werent teaching that yet back in the late 70s when i was in school...

:(


11 posted on 11/10/2011 10:12:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Lmo56

Ron Paul was right to call Obama an elected dictator.


12 posted on 11/10/2011 10:18:52 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

The President is not supposed to be an elected dictator.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 10:19:46 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Tennessee Nana
I vaguely remember that also....Judicial, legislative, executive...hope the SC takes the case and puts the executive branch on notice they don't run the supreme court yet...1 justice short of that being the case..

This executive branch sure has brass ones and not it a good way...they need to be put in their place and only 1 of 3 branches of government..

14 posted on 11/10/2011 10:20:33 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Hunton Peck

Sounds like red meat offered to a wolf to me. There has to be some USSC justices that will take this as an offense...hint hint, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 10:23:42 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: Smokin' Joe
SCOTUS should order the U.S. Military to arrest and detain the DoJ until they can be tried as terrorists by a military tribunal and then shot,
16 posted on 11/10/2011 10:25:40 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Hunton Peck

A Special Prosecutor needs to bring RICO charges against Holder and his merry band of Fascists at Justice.


17 posted on 11/10/2011 10:27:53 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Meh. Standard Cert. argument BS.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 10:31:17 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: MasterGunner01
If they continue to defy the orders of Congress, and continue to stonewall investigations, there is sufficient indication that they have engaged in treasonous activity to warrant their removal from office and arrest.

I don't think there is a big enough set in DC to even suggest it, but I agree.

19 posted on 11/10/2011 10:31:23 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RIghtwardHo

You’re correct. I didn’t mean for my comment to suggest that there’s anything out of the ordinary in Justice’s motion in itself — only to comment on the irony of even a routine motion of this sort coming from a department (in an administration) which so routinely tries to usurp the authority of both states and other branches of government.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 10:39:35 PM PST by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: headstamp 2

Don’t worry, Congress will charge the current administration with sedition including O’bummer and impeach them all...tomorrow.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 10:40:01 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Hunton Peck

Does that mean the lower court ruling will apply to sanctuary cities who are also violating federal law?

Cindie


22 posted on 11/10/2011 11:44:26 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: MestaMachine

Move along SCOTUS. Nothing to see here.


23 posted on 11/10/2011 11:47:04 PM PST by alpo
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To: Hunton Peck

Gee, Just wait until Justice applies the same principle to criminal law.

Or, better yet, just wait til criminals find out they can ask the police to stay out of their affairs.


24 posted on 11/11/2011 3:15:47 AM PST by plangent
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Considering that Holder’s “Justice Department” has helped create problems in Border States with operation “Fast and Furious” and God only knows what else, I think the SCOTUS should get involved. The DOJ has a conflict of interest here and appears to be on the wrong side of the laws it insists it should have sole enforcement powers over.”

The last I knew , both Zero and Holder took and oath to “support and defend the Constitution from all enemies , foreign and domestic “...

How many times have you heard that we are a nation of LAWS ?
and yet both Zero and Holder are not enforcing the currently existing laws.
and yet both Zero and Holder then ‘over-reach’ in other legal areas , even presuming to tell the SCOTUS that there is nothing to see here .

The fact that Zero and Holder are on the wrong side of the law , especially when the law is explicit , and yet they fail to enforce the law of the land as it exists.

Such brazen brass chutzpah just fries me !


25 posted on 11/11/2011 3:32:15 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You never want a crisis to go to waste..."- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
How many times have you heard that we are a nation of LAWS ? and yet both Zero and Holder are not enforcing the currently existing laws.

They have gone well beyond the lack of enforcement of our laws, and appear to be an integral part of a criminal conspiracy to violate those laws.

26 posted on 11/11/2011 5:16:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: MasterGunner01
Yes, but do we shoot them before or after we hang them? They need to be hanged, IMO. </bloodthirsty old bat>
27 posted on 11/11/2011 6:37:49 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related articles.

Talk about chutzpah! So, this is Chicago politics?

28 posted on 11/11/2011 9:28:28 AM PST by HiJinx (SFC, USA (Ret) '76-'96)
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To: TheOldLady
Do both; hang ‘em and while they're kicking, hose ‘em with a 7.62 NATO Mini-gun. At General Electric/Dillon Aerospace we bring good things to life — the GAU-17/A.
29 posted on 11/11/2011 10:49:37 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

Can I shoot ‘em with my new rifle? I can do a 2” grouping at 30 yards. See my profile page, and scroll down near the bottom.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 10:56:12 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

Why not? Now, an M40A1 106mm recoilless rifle loaded with an APERS round has 6,000 13-grain flechettes (think: roofing nails with fins). That would be even more fun because the flechettes “fishhook” on impact with soft tissue.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 11:29:05 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01
The PS90 makes an itty-bitty entry hole with the 5.7mm slug, but then the damage starts in earnest.

It's magical!
32 posted on 11/11/2011 11:42:09 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Hunton Peck

Oh I know. Didn’t mean to sound like I was shooting the messenger either. =)


33 posted on 11/11/2011 3:11:01 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Hunton Peck

I still maintain that ANY GOVERNOR can force the issue immediately and the SC will get involved overnight. The answer is simple, legal and right in front of our faces. The US Constitution is absolutely clear as to where jurisdiction lies when “A State is a Party to the Action” and that my friends is the Supreme Court, all other courts are inferior and have NO LEGALLY BINDING JURISDICTION. Tell the INFERIOR FEDERAL JUDGE to go pound sand, when he barks ARREST HIM FOR TYRANNY and lock his funny ass up and any Federal Employee that attempts to enforce an ILLEGAL ORDER by an INFERIOR COURT that has NO JURISDICTION under our Constitution to decide ANY MATTER where A STATE is involved. HOLD UP THE CONSTITUTION AND READ IT ALOUD ON TV, Let the people decide. Just because the Judicial Branch chooses to IGNORE THE CONSTITUTION does not necessarily mean that a STATE has to also. JUST SAY NO and force them to act NOW.


34 posted on 11/12/2011 4:41:13 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: HiJinx
All that and more per "Chicago politics'. The "man who would be king" - thinks he is, in fact.

Should he steal "2012"; good chance; he will be emboldened to declare himself such.

35 posted on 11/13/2011 7:47:31 AM PST by cricket (Stop the madness. . . Vote the KING out!)
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