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More To The Story At Penn State
Townhall.com ^ | November 12, 2011 | Brian McNicoll

Posted on 11/12/2011 8:13:38 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: org.whodat

Ray Gricar had a reputation for helping battered women and abused children. It was his soft spot. He often went out of his way to get justice for these people. He also followed up with them to maintain their safety in many instances.
This was a man who, if he had sunk his teeth into this, was like a pit bull. If he realized that sandusky was the tip of a very big iceberg, then you can bet he was into it.


41 posted on 11/12/2011 9:00:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kaslin

Why isn’t the Wife Swapping Studies scholar-president of State Penn on the hook to become part of the chain gang too?


42 posted on 11/12/2011 9:02:23 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

A LOT of money at stake ... tens of millions per year.

A lot of prestige at stake.

Reputrations, rellationships.

You have a district attorney who has been pronounced dead after going missing 6 years ago...what did he know...how close was he getting?

This whole thing is sick, depraved, and digusting. Corruption and crime at the highest levels of that school and I bet it reaches out beyond that given the money, power and prestige this thing threatened.

I believe the NCAA should give a multiple year death penalty to that football prgram. Let the players go elsewhere and not be pennalized...but kill the prgram for at least 3 years.

I also believe that there are more people hwo should be in jail.


43 posted on 11/12/2011 9:03:13 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MHGinTN

I think you’re right MHGinTN.....this is moving along and seems to point to a much larger arena then the college itself. Nasty business when people in high places gain too much power and that which it welds.


44 posted on 11/12/2011 9:03:17 AM PST by caww
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To: dfwgator

Astute comparison! Look at my numbers above - the $1.2 million CEO of a $91 million dollar enterprise where the “workers” (athletes) are volunteers. Who’d want to put such a goldmine at risk?


45 posted on 11/12/2011 9:04:36 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Joe 6-pack
LOL, my nephew essentially told me just that.

It's good to have stable centers of expertise in an organization busy with "change".

46 posted on 11/12/2011 9:05:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: jacquej
Does anyone think that if the Mark Madden rumor is true, that there will be the mother of all cover-ups?

Yep. Saw the governor speak the other day. He looked nervous.

47 posted on 11/12/2011 9:07:55 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: bigbob
College football is much like the screen actor's guild in that a handful on top make a lot of money, those lower down on the pyramid are lucky to break even and those at the bottom see it as a financial sinkhole, but one necessary to advertise their brand.

There was an interesting article in our local fishwrap not too many months ago which explained that 6 in 7 college football programs actually lost money. I'll see if I can find it and post it.

48 posted on 11/12/2011 9:08:21 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: org.whodat

The night Gricar went missing, they sent a dozen police cars, a swat team, and helicopters with searchlights to the Penn State campus.
He had scheduled an appointment with an ‘informant’ but never showed up and neither did the informant. Details get lost. Information drips out and causes chaos. Misinformation is rampant.
After that, the Penn State angle was NEVER mentioned again.


49 posted on 11/12/2011 9:10:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Polyxene
There are those who think :

"Joe is so dirty he needs a shower"


50 posted on 11/12/2011 9:10:56 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: jacquej
Does anyone think that if the Mark Madden rumor is true, that there will be the mother of all cover-ups?

I am expecting exactly that.

I have lost faith in the “system”, completely and totally.

You and me both.

51 posted on 11/12/2011 9:12:47 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Kaslin

The local news readers continue to refer to the crime as “child abuse”, instead of the criminal homosexual pedophilia that it is.


52 posted on 11/12/2011 9:14:24 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Kaslin
He knew about the 1999 incident.

He should have reported it to the police. Oh, wait a minute, that's the case that was reported to police and they dropped it.

If Sandusky and Paterno didn't like each other why did Sandusky have an office in the football facilities after his retirement?

Did Sandusky retire as a football coach or did he retire as an associate professor in physical education? Was Paterno any sort of faculty administrator? Did he have any involvement in the conditions of Sandusky's faculty retirement? I'm pretty sure the answer is no but I'd like to see in spelled out.

If Paterno didn't like him -- and I don't think he did -- why would he let him stick around?

I think there is something really dirty at Penn State but I don't think Paterno has anything to do with it.

53 posted on 11/12/2011 9:15:29 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Vigilanteman
There was an interesting article in our local fishwrap not too many months ago which explained that 6 in 7 college football programs actually lost money. I'll see if I can find it and post it.

Yuh. And back when the first studies began to indicate that maybe there might just be a connection between cigarettes and lung cancer, you could find a bunch of stories in local papers about how cigarette smoking is actually good for you.

54 posted on 11/12/2011 9:16:32 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: yldstrk

Comments like this are what makes reading Free Republic fun.


55 posted on 11/12/2011 9:17:25 AM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: jacquej

What is the Madden rumor?


56 posted on 11/12/2011 9:17:25 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Fu-fu2
The local news readers continue to refer to the crime as “child abuse”, instead of the criminal homosexual pedophilia that it is.

Amen...conditioning the public; making it sound like someone hit a child with a belt...

57 posted on 11/12/2011 9:17:56 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Vigilanteman

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/06/22_college_football_programs_m.html

22 college football programs made money in 2009-10, NCAA report says


58 posted on 11/12/2011 9:19:06 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MestaMachine
The night Gricar went missing, they sent a dozen police cars, a swat team, and helicopters with searchlights to the Penn State campus.

He had scheduled an appointment with an ‘informant’ but never showed up and neither did the informant.

Whoa! That's an amazing piece of info, one I hadn't heard before.

If someone eliminated him, the body's nearby, I should think. There are always construction sites around a big-time University like Penn State.

I wonder if... ?

59 posted on 11/12/2011 9:19:28 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: GOPJ

“Some people need to be lined up against a wall and shot.”

Amen, Brothers and Sisters.

Here on FR, I lay verbal napalm on Islamic practices and infiltration, and here we are with the American PC-equivalent of Islam’s sexual grooming of a conquered population: sexual abuse of children and the condoning of homosexuality/predation against our young boys/young men.

Rush said he’d lose his job/show.

Barney Frank and Lindsay Graham must be just as proud as Keith Ellison, Arne Duncan, Kevin Jennings and 0bama.

This $h!t’s flat out wrong. People get that and need to cut out what’s rotten, or we all will be tainted. God is no mocked.


60 posted on 11/12/2011 9:20:36 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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