Posted on 11/14/2011 2:59:28 PM PST by Bigtigermike
You won’t believe me until you click play but this is much worse than Perry’s brain lock at the debate last week. Perry lost his train of thought; Cain doesn’t have a train at all here, to the point where he needs confirmation from the interviewer of what Obama’s position on Libya actually was.
Eventually he produces some boilerplate about not supporting the opposition until you’re sure who’s in it and of course not making a decision as president until he has all the information, which is a standard Cain fallback talking point whenever he gets in trouble on a question, but the first two minutes or so are pure agony. The board actually took pity on him, I think, by not following up.
And that still only barely qualifies as the worst answer he gave today. Here’s what he told them when asked, predictably enough, about Scott Walker’s righteous crusade against public employee unions:
"On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively." But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”…
Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Libya...Libya....Libya....that’s the one with Khadafi right?!? After watching this, I’m not sure Cain could find Libya on a map.
If this guy can’t answer a question with 9-9-9, he’s screwed.
Now, here is another one for you to spin for the Forum, and we can hardly wait to hear the excuses you can dream up;
Cain's position during the 2008 presidential election;
In 2008, Cain initially praised Democratic candidate Barack Obama, saying of Obama that “His gift is the gift of oratory. That's not just the ability to speak, but the ability to connect with people.” He also said that he would consider supporting Obama “under the right circumstances” but only if he made a serious attempt to “reach across the aisle”. Eventually, Cain instead endorsed Mitt Romney in the Republican primary. [70]
This was very hard to watch....and his backpeddling wasn’t sufficient as we’ve heard it before on past slip ups...it’s too bad because he is a very likable individual...just not ready by any means and who’s going to have the time to prop him up in WAshington with our country where it’s at?
We have a POTUS vacationing in Hawaii as his rent a mobs rape and kill and he ignores a freaking subpoena and anti-Isreal remarks he got caught red handed at and people are worried about Cain becoming confused with which muslim brotherhood Obama funded with our tax money from month to month?
Seriously?...
The man answered the question, get over it.
the last I heard he was looking over in new Mexico.
Herman Cain is an outsider who acts like a normal person who's not always scripted, and talking like a robot like most career politicians. He's a true, qualified, Conservative who's not a career politician, and that's what I thought the TEA party wanted in candidates. As a CEO he turned around a large failing business, that Obama would have bankrupted, in just 14 months. He's our best choice, and will destroy Obama.
The dishonest personal attacks have nothing to do with Herman Cain's true Conservative beliefs, or tell you anything about the type of Presidency he would be. The media love to lie about things irrelevant to what kind of President he would be, but they never talk about his popular Conservative stances on the most important issues we face because they know it would only help him.
They tried to ignore him for as long as they could hoping he would just go away, and fall to the bottom of the polls fast. Then when that didn't happen the only coverage was about how he would inevitable fall to the bottom in the polls that was based on nothing, and when he didn't they launched a full scale vicious personal assault against him to completely ruin the man. They hate Conservatives, and especially black Conservatives who threaten their slave hold on the government dependent blacks.
I will not let the liberal media, or establishment Republicans, influence my vote in any way whatsoever. The democrats fear Cain because he will destroy Obama in the general election, which is why he's so viciously attacked while Romney is the least attacked among the candidates. The Republican establishment fear a Conservative Republican outsider coming in, despite their demands we nominate the liberal Romney, and changing the Republican party for the better. We have large portions of our own Republican party on the same side as liberals when it comes to supporting the liberal Romney, which is just sad. It tells you all you need to know. Romney will not only lose to Obama, but he will hurt Conservative turnout, which will hurt other Republicans who are true Conservatives on the ballot, and cause tremendous damage to the Conservative movement that might be the end of it. Anyone who has let the media manipulate them, and cause doubt over whoever they have supported are falling for their liberal plan. They can't make us liberals, but they can influence the way a lot of Conservatives see the candidates, and how electable we think they are. They will help the person they think Obama has the best chance against, and it's obvious they have chosen the same liberal that the Republican establishment has chosen, Romney.
I feel that the Conservative outsider Cain is the best choice, and is right on the most important issues we are facing. It doesn't bother me that he talks like a normal person instead of a scripted robot. As I've said before I will never let these media lies against our best candidate in Herman Cain, do anything but make me work as hard as one person can to help him become the next President of the United States.
What man?What question and what is it exactly you’re telling me to get over?
I'm sticking with Herman Cain since he's a real Conservative outsider who's different than the politicians who have been causing more and more problems throughout the years, instead of solving anything. I'll take a chance with a Conservative with something new like Herman Cain. If you really ever supported Cain you need to see that you're falling right into the liberal media, and establishment Republican trap. They know they can't make us liberals, but they can influence our decisions by making some Conservatives think a candidate isn't electable, and changing who they support.
It can only work for them if Conservatives allow it to work, and I will not be fooled by the media that is so obviously biased against Conservatism. I would like for everyone to support Herman Cain, but especially if you are a Conservative who supported him to begin with, and allowed the liberal media to change your opinion, and support for him to rethink that decision. Don't let them control you, and don't believe anything they say when you know they want Obama reelected. Herman Cain is feared by liberals because he will destroy Obama in the general election.
Cain is not only electable, but he would beat Obama easily, and that's why he's ignored, or attacked viciously. The media took forever to even acknowledge he was the front runner until they were forced to. They talked about Romney and Perry without mentioning Cain, and once they did mention him it was how he would shortly fall in the polls, but they never gave a substantial reason for why they were sure of that because it was based on nothing but wishful thinking. That justified their actions to themselves, pretending he was not news worthy when it came to reporting about the primary even though he was leading. Then when he wouldn't fall to the bottom they just attacked him in an obviously biased, viscous, and completely disgusting way trying to destroy the man's entire life.
They are doing the same thing now by pretending he isn't in the race anymore even though he's still leading. They want to change facts, and fool people into believing their lie that he doesn't have a real chance to win the nomination or Presidency, and they are doing it to try and push Conservatives from supporting Cain and choosing another Republican they are more confident in defeating. It will fool some Conservatives, but hopefully there are enough people out their that can see what the media is trying to do when it comes to Cain. They are terrified of this man, and that's the only reason they have gotten so ridiculous, and desperate when it comes to him. Herman Cain for President 2012!
http://www.hermancain.com/home
Here is Herman Cain's stance on the issues - http://www.hermancain.com/issues
Donate to Cain's campaign here - https://supporthermancain.com/
They have been trying to act as if Cain has no chance ever since he surged in the polls, and just ignored him until forced to start reporting on him. Only to say bad things about him, and predicting he would fall in the polls, before all the liberals went on a crazy, and racist rant that made them look like the pathetic embarrassments they are. Herman Cain has done nothing that should cause anyone who supports him to change their minds about him. He's a conservative, he's an outsider which many wanted in a candidate, he's even taking a tough stance on the forgotten nation killing issue of illegal immigration, and democrats are terrified of him because he will destroy Obama in the general election.
Responding to your “heartless” comment;
Perry said, “If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they have been brought there by no fault of their own, I don’t think you have a heart,”
Of course, we are required by the Federal government to educate them through 12th grade. Perry preferred enabling them to PAY instate tuition to attend college rather than have them enter the welfare system.
Rick Perry’s Record on Border Security;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2788266/posts
Cain said, “I would build an electrified fence on the border, and ‘yes, it could kill people’.”
The next day he said “it was a joke”.
But still later he reversed again and said, “I’m not walking away from that”.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20121695-503544.html
Maybe “heartless” is all a matter of Christian “perception”.
The key is not allowing public service unions, the bedrock conservative position is not allowing public service unions to collective bargain. The line in the sand is no collective bargaining for pay and benefits.
Amazing that some Cain supporters OK with allowing public service unions to collective bargain for pay and benefits. Since Cain thinks federal employees already have those rights it stands to reason he would not object to extending the right to collective bargain to them.
Public service unions are a socialist Marxist dream come true. The takers unions get to negotiate with the Marxist elected to redistribute the tax payers' wealth. The bigger gov gets the more powerful the socialists/Marxists become and the more taxpayer wealth is "distributed". And Cain is OK with this? The more I think about Cain position on public service unions the madder I get. No one claiming to be a conservative should be on the wrong side or just plane ignorant on this issue.
Potlatch, thank you, you said it better then I did and thanks for the links too.
You’re welcome. I just thought it was so hilarious when he wrote; “Perry isn’t ready for any political office”. I’m still giggling.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-books-campaign-funds-/1
Yes, I’ve read that before, the article was actually dated Oct 18, 2011, but not much has been said about it. What I do not like is his saying something one day and then saying it’s a joke the next day and it has happened over and over again.
I have watched the video posted on Hotair several times. This was not a “debate” type of format, specifically it reminded me more of my own experience being deposed by lawyers. If you think it is a good idea to start speaking off the top of your head without carefully considering what a lawyer has just asked you... and asking for clarification then you are an idiot and will be play-dough in the most junior lawyers hands.
Mr. Cain was given a vague “gotcha” question and handled it extremely well. He answered the question without letting them box him into a corner. I can only wish that I could have done so well when lawyers have asked me about subjects on which I am very familiar only to have them twist my answers around after they intentionally and successfully have tripped me up. I am proud of Mr. Cain's response; they worded a complex question in a way that tried to force a yes/no answer. He successfully had them clarify and then went on to give the appropriate response.
You have gleefully participated in yet another smear devised by liberal mainstream media people to discredit a true conservative. You are a pawn in their hands... to them people like you are kind of a joke. Their plan is to discredit everyone on our side using tools like you so that Obama can be walked right back into office in the next election. So good job!
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