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1 posted on 11/14/2011 3:20:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Penn State doesn’t want to part ways with Sandusky so easily.


2 posted on 11/14/2011 3:21:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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Sandusky was indicted last week on 40 counts of child sex abuse charges.


Tell me why the media refuses to call this what it is;

Homosexual rape of a child.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 3:26:45 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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Pensions are a legal obligation...


4 posted on 11/14/2011 3:27:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: nickcarraway

He was just fired a few days ago, give due process a chance. Just stripping it w/ out the proper process could wind the school up in legal trouble.

Disclaimer (just from reading some of these other threads)- this is only a statement on how quickly this article came out, not on Sandusky’s actions.


5 posted on 11/14/2011 3:28:42 PM PST by mnehring
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I’m pretty sure the Goldmans couldn’t go after OJ’s pension money. I don’t know if that was due to state or federal law. It would be a shame if the victims couldn’t sue these two civilly and dip into those obscene pensions.


6 posted on 11/14/2011 3:30:09 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nickcarraway

And the Occupy dopes blame Wall Street for the cost of education. Why are there no protests at the actual schools for these ridiculous payouts?


7 posted on 11/14/2011 3:31:46 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: nickcarraway
This is so sick. I believe Sandusky has info on others...there is something beyond these charges that is letting this absolute animla skate so lightly to this point.

As I said on another thread regarding the former President of the University, the Athletic Director, and Paterno:

They are all guilty of enabling this monster...of turning their eyes away from abject abuse and sexual assault on under-aged boys. They were protecting their $90 million dollar a year football program and were too cowardly (or themselves wrapped up in it in some way) to even help the young men they witnessed being brought to those events.

It is a sick, disgusting, sad affair.

The University president, the Atheletic Director, and Coach Paterno all need to be charged with some form of criminal neglect IMHO and based on reading these sequence of events.

The Penn State Football program should get a 3-5 year death penalty.

How absolutely revolting and disgusting.

I wonder if Joe would have acted differently if Sandusky showed up to one of the "events" with Paterno's grandson? Or of the Janitor or other coach had seen Paterno's grandson in the shower with Sandusky.

How does the other coach see it, eyewitness the sexual assault in the shower, or the janitor for that matter...and NOT STOP IT RIGHT THEN WHILE IT WAS OCCURING? Much less immediately call the police?

It may be wrong...but as God is my witness, if I knew (and these people knew it) someone was doing this to one of my boys when they were younger (they're grown now) are any of my grandkids, the individual involved would never do it again. He would cease to be amongst the living just as soon as I could get there...and I would be happy to rely on a jury of my peers, whatever the outcome, and do so with a clear conscience.

8 posted on 11/14/2011 3:33:56 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Never forget!

10 posted on 11/14/2011 3:44:25 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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14 posted on 11/14/2011 4:26:24 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: nickcarraway; BigSkyFreeper
As usual, more irresponsible and false reporting from PennLive.com, which continues to post crap.

Not much is actually true in this article, so it's very difficult to know where to begin.

First: Penn State does not pay anyone's pension. Penn State employees have to option to either join the Pennsylvania State Employees Retirement System (SERS) or a teacher's private pension system (TIAA/CREF).

Second: Sandusky was not paid a lump sum "payoff" upon retiring "early." In the SERS system, everyone is repaid half their contribution upon leaving the fund. Just like any other 401 (k) or IRA account, it needs to be rolled over into another retirement plan if you are not of retirement age. At the time Sandusky retired, he had so many years already in service, his effective contribution to the SERS system would have actually been negative if he had continued to work. This is what many people have overlooked about the "suspicious timing" of Sandusky's retirement. It was financially attractive because of a retirement buyout that was being offered to tens of thousands of state workers at the time. Nothing sinister. No payoff. And no story, there.

Third: Neither TIAA/CREF nor SERS is going to terminate anyone's pension benefit unless there is actually evidence of a crime. As hard as this may be for some FReeper's to believe, NO ONE HAS YET BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING IN THIS CASE. So, all of you idiots faulting PSU for "continuing to pay" Sandusky and others, the bottom line is PSU isn't paying ANYONE, ANYTHING, and those who ARE paying their pensions cannot stop paying them BY LAW.

Fourth: Yes, Curley and Schultz' defense is being paid by PSU because PSU agrees to indemnify ALL of its employees being tried for charges made pursuant to university business. Again, there is nothing unseemly about this, and a great many PSU employees who have quasi-regulatory or oversight responsibilities would be extremely upset (and Curley and Schultz would undoubtedly sue Penn State for breach of contract) if PSU WAS NOT defending them.

Don't let that stop y'all from knotting your ropes and looking for likely trees. The lynch mob can continue to foam at the mouth as it has been all week.

15 posted on 11/14/2011 4:44:36 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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When he retired, Sandusky opted to take a lump-sum pension payment of $148,271 from the State Employees’ Retirement System. The rest of his pension is being paid out monthly and is $58,898 annually.

Schultz could be far more richly paid. He elected to receive a $421,847 lump-sum payment at the time of his retirement in 2009, after nearly 39 years of service.

He also receives a monthly pension payment of $27,558 — nearly the cost of tuition for two in-state freshmen at State College. That comes to nearly $331,000 a year.

I live in PA. I guess that means I'm contributing to this predator's pension.

18 posted on 11/14/2011 4:57:55 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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