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Secret Service Searched Occupy D.C. Camp For Person Who Shot At White House
Talking Points Memo ^ | NOVEMBER 16, 2011 | RYAN J. REILLY

Posted on 11/16/2011 8:25:30 AM PST by Qbert

The Secret Service searched Occupy D.C. on Monday for a man suspected of firing bullets at the White House on Friday, one of which was stopped by the building’s ballistic glass.

Protestor Ralph Wittenberg told TPM on Tuesday evening that authorities came through “searching for a so-called terrorist who shot at the White House, with no warrant, they went into everybody’s tents.”

A person handling media requests for Occupy DC confirmed the searches and said they were led by the Secret Service. The agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Police have been trying to locate 21-year-old Oscar Ortega Hernandez, a mentally ill man from Idaho who authorities say is connected to the incident, which apparently took place on Friday.

Agents began investigating after gunshots were heard on Friday night, but NBC Washington reports that agents didn’t discover the bullets until Tuesday morning.

One bullet hit an exterior window of the White House but was stopped by the bulletproof glass behind the historic glass. An additional round was found on the exterior of the building, the Secret Service told the news channel. Authorities recovered an AK-47 rifle near the scene.

Strangely, the Secret Service says the agency isn’t yet positive that the Friday incident is linked to the bullets found on the grounds of the White House.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; justshocking; occupy; occupydc; ortega; oscarortega; ows; owscrime; whitehouse; whitehousehit
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1 posted on 11/16/2011 8:25:33 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

They’re just like the Tea Party </MSM>


2 posted on 11/16/2011 8:26:44 AM PST by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: Qbert

George Bush did it with his long-range rifle.


3 posted on 11/16/2011 8:27:40 AM PST by Linda Frances
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To: Qbert

The occunazis were my first thought.

When you stir up the psychos they become uncontrollable loose cannons.


4 posted on 11/16/2011 8:28:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Qbert

This OWS shooting is like all of the Tea Party shootings.

Wait...There weren’t any Tea Party shootings. Or rapes, or murders, or public displays of pooping.


5 posted on 11/16/2011 8:29:16 AM PST by TSgt (whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive...it is the Right of the People to abolish it.)
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To: Qbert
Warrant? I don't quite see why the federal cops would need a warrant to enter on federal property to try to find a guy who'd shot at the White House.
6 posted on 11/16/2011 8:31:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Qbert

It is time to clean these pigs out.


7 posted on 11/16/2011 8:32:09 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Qbert

Well, considering Obama’s net worth. He IS one of those EVIL 1% that the OWS folks supposedly hate so much...


8 posted on 11/16/2011 8:32:55 AM PST by apillar
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To: Qbert
Protestor Ralph Wittenberg told TPM on Tuesday evening that authorities came through “searching for a so-called terrorist who shot at the White House, with no warrant, they went into everybody’s tents.”

What a complete Twit !

Is a warrant required for squatters ?


9 posted on 11/16/2011 8:33:56 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Qbert
Are the Democrats planning to eliminate 0bama,
so they can clean house and run Hillary for President next year ?

10 posted on 11/16/2011 8:36:53 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Qbert

Suspect: 21-year-old Oscar Ramiro Ortega, who has a lengthy criminal record in eastern Idaho

11 posted on 11/16/2011 8:37:40 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Linda Frances

Like all things Texan, that is a loooonggg-range rifle.


12 posted on 11/16/2011 8:38:27 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Isn’t this the same crowd that ELECTED “O”??


13 posted on 11/16/2011 8:38:57 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Qbert
Hippies
Too bad there isn't an airlock to send them out of.

14 posted on 11/16/2011 8:41:52 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: SMARTY
Isn’t this the same crowd that ELECTED “O”??

Yes; they seem to be simple minded anarchists.

15 posted on 11/16/2011 8:42:38 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Qbert

Imagine the firkin’ firestorm from the MSM if this had been a Tea Party member.


16 posted on 11/16/2011 8:45:08 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh!)
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To: Qbert
I'm shocked, shocked that Obama, reid, and Pelosi would let the Secret Service search their own astroturf!

Although if Obama is in fear of his life he would probably act like Osama did in his final minutes.......

Michelle, if there's danger, don't stand to close to the potus

17 posted on 11/16/2011 8:45:29 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Qbert
Oscar Ortega Hernandez, a mentally ill man...

Doesn't this basically describe the whole OWS crowd??

18 posted on 11/16/2011 8:45:57 AM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: Qbert

I’ll be the first to say it... Cain’s fault!

Didn’t Cain say that the Occupy folks should be protesting at the White House???


19 posted on 11/16/2011 8:46:09 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Actually, even on federal property you need probable cause. Given that none of those folks had a permit for a tent, the tents weren't really there. But, yes, you'd need a warrent to stop and frisk the squatters, and no, you don't need a warrent to enter into an unpermitted structure, but a tent, as it turns out, is not a structure at all! It's more like an article of clothing (under the circumstances).

I think the federales had it right in this instance.

20 posted on 11/16/2011 8:47:30 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Qbert

Oscar Ortega-Hernandez, described as a 21-year-old Hispanic, has a lengthly record ranging from domestic violence to drug charges.


21 posted on 11/16/2011 8:47:41 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Qbert
“searching for a so-called terrorist who shot at the White House, with no warrant, they went into everybody’s tents.”

I sure hope the searchers were wearing haz mat gear...

22 posted on 11/16/2011 8:47:41 AM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Qbert

A broken window in the WHITE HOUSE isn’t noticed for several days?

I’d check that AK’s srno closely. It’s had time to do some “walkin”.


23 posted on 11/16/2011 8:47:41 AM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Qbert

the suspect, 21-year-old Oscar Ortega-Hernandez. The suspect has a record of arrests in Idaho, Utah and Texas, according to MyFoxDC

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/16/bullet-hit-white-house-window-secret-service-confirms/#ixzz1dt55IknW


24 posted on 11/16/2011 8:49:29 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Obadiah
Events like Occupy..... attract the homeless (free meals, still outdoors, chicks and dope). They also attract the mentally ill. In most cases any medicine they brought with them will be stolen quickly and next thing you know your encampment has a crowd of schizophrenics around, with no meds, and nowhere to go.

The top dogs in the Democrat party know that.

25 posted on 11/16/2011 8:49:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Qbert

Gunshots on Friday where a bullet hit a window of the White House but it was not discovered until Tuesday?

Total BS. The technology being used for protection would have set off all sorts of alarms.


26 posted on 11/16/2011 8:50:59 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Qbert

The shooter was obviously trying to camouflage himself amongst Obama’s friends.


27 posted on 11/16/2011 8:51:10 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (“Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.")
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To: Aunt Polgara

Wow Mr Cain might have well put a target symbol on the white house, those darn republicans starting all these violent incidents with their hateful violent rhetoric./SARC


28 posted on 11/16/2011 8:51:47 AM PST by crazydad
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To: null and void

White House shot twice; officials still looking for Oscar Ortega-Hernandez

White House officials found a window that was shot this morning that they believe might be connected with Friday's shooting incident.

29 posted on 11/16/2011 8:52:18 AM PST by kcvl
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To: muawiyah

“Events like Occupy..... attract the homeless (free meals, still outdoors, chicks and dope). They also attract the mentally ill. In most cases any medicine they brought with them will be stolen quickly and next thing you know your encampment has a crowd of schizophrenics around, with no meds, and nowhere to go.”

You’ve just described Obozo’s National Re-Election Headquarters.


30 posted on 11/16/2011 8:54:20 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“Is a warrant required for squatters ?”

There’s actually a case out there from the loony Ninth Circuit that held that a warrantless arrest in a tent on public grounds violated the 4th Amendment:

“The threshold issue is whether the Fourth Amendment protects a person’s privacy interests in a tent located on a public campground...We hold that Gooch’s warrantless arrest in his tent violated the proscription of the Fourth Amendment, absent exigent circumstances.”

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/6/6.F3d.673.92-35428.html


31 posted on 11/16/2011 8:56:43 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: isthisnickcool

“Gunshots on Friday where a bullet hit a window of the White House but it was not discovered until Tuesday?

Total BS. The technology being used for protection would have set off all sorts of alarms.”

—Yep, it does seem very fishy.


32 posted on 11/16/2011 8:58:32 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
I would expect nothing less from the Ninth Circus.

33 posted on 11/16/2011 9:01:43 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Linda Frances
George Bush did it with his long-range rifle.

From a grassy knoll in Dallas.

34 posted on 11/16/2011 9:03:03 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: muawiyah
Events like Occupy..... attract the homeless (free meals, still outdoors, chicks and dope). They also attract...

According to Drudge this morning you can add scabies and ringworm to the list.

35 posted on 11/16/2011 9:04:44 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Qbert

Anarchist to islamist.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 9:15:26 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Qbert

I would consider searching for a person after shooting st an occupied structure as an extingent circumstance. No warrant needed.


37 posted on 11/16/2011 9:19:01 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: Qbert

The authorities had said earlier that an AK-47 assault rifle was found in the abandoned car, and that the evidence at the scene led the authorities to seek Oscar Ramiro Ortega, 21, described as 5-feet-11 and 160 pounds, with a medium build, brown eyes and black hair, and distinctive tattoos.

The Park Police, who have issued a warrant for Mr. Ortega’s arrest, also said he had a tattoo with the word “Israel” on his neck, and published photos with other details of his appearance including a heavy beard and other tattoos.

News reports said that Mr. Ortega had an encounter with police in Arlington, Virginia, early on Friday, outside a house where he was believed to be squatting, but they did not arrest him.

ABC News reported that Mr. Ortega has a criminal record that includes domestic violence and drug charges.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/us/bullet-that-struck-the-white-house-is-found.html


38 posted on 11/16/2011 9:22:20 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Qbert

Abert!! Nice to see you back. When can we flame your ass off? What an ass.


39 posted on 11/16/2011 9:27:21 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Safetgiver

“Abert!! Nice to see you back. When can we flame your ass off? What an ass.”

If you’re going to trash somebody... you should probably check the name first. Sheesh.


40 posted on 11/16/2011 9:35:13 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Safetgiver
I saw the video where the protester threatens Macy's with a Molotov cocktail. If I had said that, my backside would be warming a bench in a jail cell right now.

I'm not surprised that some OWS person would shoot at a public building.

Apparently, laws don't apply to them.

41 posted on 11/16/2011 9:40:09 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: null and void
Not to wax Godwinian, but I notice some similarities between Germany of the 1930’s, the administration and the OWS mob.

German powers that were: Blame Jews, Gypsies,business owners, bankers.
Leftist US powers that be and OWS crowd that they support: Blame Tea Party, Christians, Soldiers, Patriots, Jews, business owners, bankers.

German powers that were: Had thugs in the street that they supported and they wore brown shirts.
Leftist US powers that be: Have thugs in the street that they support and wear colorful shirts.

German powers that were: Had thugs in the street that go unruly and got out of hand.
Leftist US powers that be: Had thugs in the street that go unruly and got out of hand.

42 posted on 11/16/2011 9:41:41 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: null and void

“They’re just like the Tea Party “

If you don’t count their defecating and urinating in public/overwhelming odor, the 3rd world diseases afflicting them, the theft, rapes, assaults, murders and attempted homicides—why, just like!


43 posted on 11/16/2011 9:44:06 AM PST by tumblindice (The First Lady cap snaffler: It Really Really Works)
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To: kcvl

“The Park Police, who have issued a warrant for Mr. Ortega’s arrest, also said he had a tattoo with the word “Israel” on his neck, and published photos with other details of his appearance including a heavy beard and other tattoos.”

—How long before the leftists start a meme that Ortega was a “Zionist terrorist” because of his tattoo?

(I believe “Israel” is actually a fairly common Hispanic name).


44 posted on 11/16/2011 9:45:06 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Obadiah

*Oscar Ortega Hernandez, a mentally ill man...
Doesn’t this basically describe the whole OWS crowd?? *

LOL.
It would be difficult to narrow it down in that crowd!


45 posted on 11/16/2011 9:46:09 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: tumblindice; Mr. K
Exactly! Just like.

Did you see Mr.K's take?

46 posted on 11/16/2011 9:52:24 AM PST by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: null and void

His is much better. I completely missed the Peoples’ Courts, summary judgments and hippies hanging from lamp posts.


47 posted on 11/16/2011 9:59:00 AM PST by tumblindice (The First Lady cap snaffler: It Really Really Works)
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To: Qbert; Safetgiver
In his defense a Q looks exactly like an A+...


48 posted on 11/16/2011 9:59:08 AM PST by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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Obama pays millions to scum,ACORN thugs to occupy with violence while America rots from within and they get confused and try to shoot the hand that pays them...


50 posted on 11/16/2011 10:29:36 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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