[ArmyTeach]

The article accurately defines natural born citizenship and accurately points out that Obama’s father was in fact a native of Uganda and therefore a British citizen. Someone track me and correct me, but I understand that an American citizen must be 19 years of age in order to confer citizenship upon his/her offspring. Obama’s mother was 18 when Obama was born. Does that mean that Obama can not be a ‘natural born’ citizen?

[Kansas58]

Go to the State Department web page, for application for a Passport to answer some of your questions.

The age rules for automatic citizenship of the child, based on age of the parent(s) has changed several times.

[Kansas58]

I think you mean Kenya, not Uganda.

[Lmo56]

The article accurately defines natural born citizenship and accurately points out that Obama’s father was in fact a native of Uganda and therefore a British citizen. Someone track me and correct me, but I understand that an American citizen must be 19 years of age in order to confer citizenship upon his/her offspring. Obama’s mother was 18 when Obama was born. Does that mean that Obama can not be a ‘natural born’ citizen?

Obama's citizenship was governed by the version of the Immigration and Nationality Act that was in effect at the time he was born. It was dated something like 1952 or 1954. I cannot remember exactly what the requirements were at the time.

HOWEVER, that DOES NOT settle the "natural-born citizen" [NBC] question since it HAS NEVER been EXACTLY defined in the Constitution [or its amendments], nor by SCOTUS ruling. Supporters of Obama point to United States v. Wong Kim Ark as proof that Obama is NBC. Ark was born in the United States to legal Chinese immigrants and claimed that he was NBC. China also claimed him as NBC of China.

In actuality, the Court ONLY ruled that Ark was a citizen by virtue of the 14th Amendment. Although, the Court [incorrectly] noted that children of aliens born in England were natural-born subjects [NBS] under English Common Law [from which our law is partially derived].

Those who are AGAINST Obama state that NBC should be defined as to what the Founders knew at the time that the Constitution was written.

In English Common Law [from which US law is partially derived], a NBS can have ONLY ONE allegiance to a specific sovreign. HOWEVER, at the time that the Constitution was written, English subjects born in foreign territories were considered by England to be NBS - even if they were born in the US. Thus, DUAL CITIZENSHIP, which VIOLATES the basic premise of NBC [and NBS].

At the time that Obama was born [assuming he WAS born in Hawaii], he was a citizen under the 14th Amendment - BUT, the British Nationality Act of 1948 ALSO governed him.

The Act states that [since his father was NBS of England], Obama IS ALSO NBS of England.

MEANING, he is a DUAL CITIZEN ...

THEREFORE, those AGAINST Obama consider him to be a citizen under the 14th Amendment - but CANNOT be a natural-born citizen.

[DiogenesLamp]

but I understand that an American citizen must be 19 years of age in order to confer citizenship upon his/her offspring. Obama’s mother was 18 when Obama was born. Does that mean that Obama can not be a ‘natural born’ citizen?

My understanding is the age requirement only applies if the child is born outside the country. If born *inside* the country, a child acquires citizenship through the action of the 14th amendment. (as currently misinterpreted to apply to the children of aliens too.)

[El Sordo]

IIRC, the age requirement for the mother applies only for children born outside the US.

And the two parent citizenship requirement came to be considered canon only after three years of the BHO being born in Kenya canon never got anywhere.

[combat_boots]

‘father’s’ citizenship
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‘mother’ not 18 and did not stay in the US for 5 years
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Nope. Either he’s not a US citizen, or, he’s an American from the 57th state in Asia.

[rodguy911]

All this is true and says to me that Princess Nancy(Piglosi) who ultimately certified the Dear Leader would never have taken that sort of chance or gone out on a limb for anyone. The guy,whoever he is, is probably a NBC.

That's why the Bari Schabazz story is so intriguing. He could well have been born in NYC for all we know.