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Milbank: Why Newt Gingrich won't last (He's not a conservative)
Ventura County Star ^ | 11/17/2011 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 11/17/2011 9:44:38 AM PST by Signalman

Edited on 11/17/2011 9:47:01 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: MHGinTN

Frankly, I’m looking forward to America’s first Amphibian president.

[but then again, *I* would be]

:)


41 posted on 11/17/2011 10:35:33 AM PST by Salamander (I'm Wounded, Old And Treacherous.)
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To: RockinRight

>> His success will ride on how well he can convince voters that it was he, not Clinton, who orchestrated the 90s boom. Since this is largely true (well, he plus the GOP Congress), it shouldn’t be that hard, but will be, since the media will distort it. >>

AMEN, that is so key. And it would help if Art Laffer, who praises the Clinton Newt economy, would MENTION NEWT when he does so.

That’s always irritated the hell out of me about Laffer, who I generally respect. And make no mistake, Clinton signs none of that stuff without Newt and the Contract Congress (BEFORE they went soft) didn’t ram it down his throat.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 10:39:43 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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If Dana's assumptions and conclusions are correct:

I can't help thinking that he will soon go the way of Rick Perry and Herman Cain.

We get Mitt.

I'm with Thomas Sowell: at some point all the nonRomney candidates need to coalesce behind one of them to avoid Romney winning the nomination.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 10:43:56 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ZULU
Dana Milbank isn't a RINO--he's a Republican-basher of long standing.

See Bill Sammon's book Fighting Back for how Milbank had already made a name for himself by 2001 for his over-the-top insults of George W. Bush which even his fellow liberal journalists found excessive.

44 posted on 11/17/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Jim from C-Town

BINGO. RIGHT ON THE MARK.

The LEAST of the GOP candidates has more of a record of real accomplishments - in office and out of it - than that racist, Marxist Muslim in the Oval Office.


45 posted on 11/17/2011 11:13:16 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: mk2000

“Let’s find out all about Gingrich and Perry before we kill them off. The Dems are smart in this respect they obey Reagans 11th commandment thou shall not speak ill of another Republican”

Firstly, no, the Dems do not follow that rule. How easily we forget the last primary.

More importantly, I kinda see your point. But Newt is not a new national figure like Perry. We know all about him. He is a ghost from decades past. Heck, they’re already doing 90s nostalgia in various quarters. Let’s not let Newt nostalgia leak in through the cracks.


46 posted on 11/17/2011 11:23:02 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Signalman

Gingrich IS a conservative.
But he’s an insider and has a lot of VERIFIABLE (not made-up) baggage.

Not my first choice, but I will support him if he is nominated.

I will not support Romney if he is nominated.


47 posted on 11/17/2011 11:25:37 AM PST by kidd
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To: Venturer

“Think about this. If Newt sdoesn’t last that leaves us with Romney”

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 11:25:37 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Signalman

Calm down, everybody. It’s Dana Milbank, the left’s favorite “mainstream journalist” milktoast metrosexual.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 11:44:07 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: RC one

Your response isn’t disingenuous. He wasn’t just, “ in a picture standing next to a Democrat.” He was in a full submittal to the Pelosi alpha dog campaign with her. It was when GOP/was very unpopular, and Gingrich went on an apology tour with her, to “admit that conservatism was wrong/failed.”


50 posted on 11/17/2011 11:52:24 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Signalman
I thought they came up with a vaccine to immunize against the dreaded damamilbank disease?

LLS

51 posted on 11/17/2011 11:57:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: mgstarr

Those are my feelings also.


52 posted on 11/17/2011 12:00:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Signalman

To listen to Dana , who is a WAPO flack, is just inane. Newt is the most feared candidate by the WH. The heck with the MSM and the leftists and even the whining Pubs who decry all of our candidates.


53 posted on 11/17/2011 1:28:08 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: SoConPubbie

Then at the ‘76 convention, Reagan gets up in one short, spontaneous speech and convinces the Convention that they have chosen the wrong man. Even on TV, you could feel the atmosphere in the place change.


54 posted on 11/17/2011 1:49:16 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: kidd

My feeling,too.


55 posted on 11/17/2011 1:50:52 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: Signalman
How about this:

"In 2005, he sat down with then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to make common cause over health care. He said he and Clinton "have the same instinct" on health care and praised the notion of a health care "transfer of finances" from rich to poor. 'I risk sounding not quite as right wing as I should,' Gingrich said at the time."

Context determines meaning.

"We have the same instinct, that, you know, I've spent enough of my life fighting and it would be nice to spend some time constructing, and I think there's a feeling in the country that's very similar," Gingrich said at a "Ceasefire on Health Care" event sponsored by the drug company Pfizer Inc. and American University.

Gingrich said he now supports a key proposal that Clinton had offered more than a decade ago, when she proposed creating a single system for medical billing so that all insurers and providers would be able to use similar procedures and save time.

She compared it to the bar codes on food packages that allow grocery store clerks to quickly scan them for a price.

"I thought this was a no-brainer," Clinton said ruefully. "This one thing ignited an incredible reaction."

Even while calling for bipartisan effort, Gingrich said his conservative beliefs have not moved drastically.

"I'm not quite sure I'm ready to join the mushy middle," he said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/600150284/Hillary-Gingrich-team-up-to-push-health-care-reforms.html

In other words, they were promoting a bill that would modernize medical record-keeping. Big deal.

"The public got a taste of Gingrich's relative moderation in May, when he disparaged Paul Ryan's budget plan, which House Republicans embraced en masse, as "right-wing social engineering" and 'too big a jump.' He quickly retreated from this inadvertent honesty, uttered in the same "Meet the Press" interview when he defended his previous support for an 'individual mandate' requiring health insurance — the part of Obamacare that conservatives find most objectionable."

Google and YouTube are still up and running - you ought to try them sometime; Gingrich has answered this accusation, satisfactorily, at least imo. And what's with Milbank's "inadvertent honesty" slur? I don't know Milbank from a hole in the ground, but this 'gotcha' of his reveals his intellectual dishonesty.

Cordially,

56 posted on 11/17/2011 4:35:53 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Jim from C-Town
"Save your keystrokes" time. The Newt bashers are dyed in the wool and will not engage in intelligible debate. I quit even trying to reason with them, their hate is unreasoning and longstanding. Suit yourself, but I'm saving my breath.
57 posted on 11/17/2011 5:43:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: nickcarraway
Your response isn’t disingenuous.

I know that.

He wasn’t just, “ in a picture standing next to a Democrat.”

I acknowledged that he occasionally had to work with Democrats over the course of his extensive political career.

It was when GOP/was very unpopular,

yep. sometimes you don't get to pick the music you have to dance to. Sometimes you do. Given a conservative house and senate, I'm confident that Newt will be dancing appropriately. He isn't perfect. None of them are. No matter who gets elected, compromises are going to have to be made. In the end, the prospects of a Perry/Obama debate scares the hell out of me. The man is an idiot and Cain isn't much better and Mitt Romney is and always will be Mitt Romney.

58 posted on 11/17/2011 6:42:18 PM PST by RC one (Newt is the last anti-Romney firewall.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Exactly! Why can’t the rest of you see it?

Gingrich vs. Romney. O shoots hoops and returns to the presidency in November.


59 posted on 11/17/2011 7:49:41 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: RC one

“yep. sometimes you don’t get to pick the music you have to dance to. Sometimes you do. Given a conservative house and senate, I’m confident that Newt will be dancing appropriately.”

Lesson I learned a long time ago.

When things are darkest, you find your true friends. Stick with them, you’ll never go wrong.


60 posted on 11/17/2011 7:52:04 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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