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Mark Steyn: Penn State's institutional wickedness
OC Register ^ | 19 Nov 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/19/2011 1:16:50 AM PST by Rummyfan

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To: HiTech RedNeck

What drew McQueary to the showers was a “rhythmic slapping sound.” How repulsive.


21 posted on 11/19/2011 5:03:15 AM PST by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: Scarpetta

That sure ain’t no mere “horseplay.” Wicked. Not all shower encounters between kids and Sandusky may have been this way, but it sounds more and more like this one was.

McQueary must have feared something awful not to have called the cops after beholding what he beheld. Mere rationalization can’t be the whole story.


22 posted on 11/19/2011 5:13:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Erik Latranyi; mickie; flaglady47
Bill O'RATley did a real number on GOP Governor Tom Corbett on The Factor last night. The upshot was O'Rs loud-mouthing and bad-mouthing the Governor whom he claimed ended up being part of the conspiracy of silence at Penn State.

Bloviator Bill would countenance no protestations from one of his guests regarding the facts of Corbett's involvement as described in your link. It was sickening.

Leni

23 posted on 11/19/2011 5:20:30 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
Bill O'RATley did a real number on GOP Governor Tom Corbett on The Factor last night.

O'Reilly is very mis-informed on many issues and then stakes out some position while refusing to hear any arguments against it.

He is a complete buffoon and makes an ass of himself regularly.

24 posted on 11/19/2011 5:28:14 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Darkwolf377
The ‘you can’t criticize because you don’t know how YOU would act in that situation’ response from Penn fans is astonishing.

It's the face of evil.
25 posted on 11/19/2011 5:30:04 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Erik Latranyi
If you embrace the full homosexual agenda, you must embrace the concept that minors can grant sexual consent.

That's the whole liberal sexual agenda, not just homosexual ... although the lines between hetero- and homo- are almost completely gone now.

If a 10-year-old can give consent to an 11-year-old (in any "gender" combination), then he or she can give consent to a 45-year-old. Yes, it's disgusting ... but what's the logical alternative?

26 posted on 11/19/2011 5:33:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (Seven more days to dust your ceiling fan blades!)
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To: Cvengr

“Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.”

I took the liberty of printing your tagline in 72 point type for my personal reminder.


27 posted on 11/19/2011 5:54:50 AM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

McCreary’s first instinct was to protect the football program and Penn State. In fact, that’s been the primary objective of everyone in authority at Penn State. It’s also been the objective of the State College police, PA State Police and Center County DA and judiciary. It even infected the Grand Jury.

Pennsylvania is obviouly a very sick state. The rot runs deep. Sadly, it isn’t the only state so devoid of morality that protecting an entity trumps protecting at risk kids. All of you pointing fingers—remember there are three fingers pointing back at you.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 5:59:13 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world

All these things are sins common to man. I guess what’s so shocking is to find them all concentrated together. What else is rotten in this “state of Denmark”??? When I think bad, bad homosexual sin at its worst, I think California and Massachusetts. Not Pennsylvania. It’s hard to swallow. I couldn’t, when I first heard of it. Sandusky is almost a mere canary in the mine.


29 posted on 11/19/2011 6:11:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: RoadTest

And I’d like to warn it’s at best an oversimplification. There can be a LOT of stress in a faithful Christian life that still overcomes. Without stress, everyone would be a limp noodle and never grow.


30 posted on 11/19/2011 6:13:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Rummyfan

One thing i haven’t seen speculated about so far in all this, is this:

When McQueary witnessed the attack taking place, he testified that both Sandusky and the victim saw him. Obviously Sandusky would have recognized him since they had known each other even prior to McQueary coming to PSU as a football player, not to mention that his height and shock of red hair would make him easily recognizable to anyone familiar with the program. So given this, what did Sandusky do in the following weeks? He had to realize there was a good chance McQueary would report the incident. Did he contact McQueary at some point? Did he plead with him, telling him that he didn’t see what he thought he saw (that it was just “horsing around”)? Or did he break down and admit that yes he was a sick old man, but begged for mercy, for him not to pursue the matter any further, promising he would never do anything like that again? Or did he threaten him in some way, perhaps saying that if you take this to the police, not only will they likely not do anything about it, but he’d make sure that you’ll never work at PSU again? Or did he get in touch with the higher ups at PSU and persuade them to sweep this matter under the rug?

In any event, i have to think that if McQueary had seen a stranger doing this, his reaction would have been totally different. Not excusing it, but just trying to understand why he acted the way he did and whether Sandusky had some sort of psychological hold over him. Either from perhaps growing up having idolized him or maybe out of fear, knowing that he still held much power and influence in the “Happy Valley” area, and that if you turned on him it could be detrimental to yourself and/or your family.

Which brings to mind that missing District Attorney......


31 posted on 11/19/2011 6:14:24 AM PST by Humbug
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Ditto my 96 year old mother. She would have given her life on the spot to save that little boy.


32 posted on 11/19/2011 6:26:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rummyfan

...as the Canadian blogger Kathy Shaidle wrote some years ago: “When we say ‘we don’t know what we’d do under the same circumstances,’ we make cowardice the default position.”

I quote that line in my current book, in a section on the “no man’s land” of contemporary culture. It contrasts the behavior of the men on the Titanic who (notwithstanding James Cameron’s wretched movie) went down with the ship and those of the École Polytechnique in Montreal decades later who, ordered to leave the classroom by a lone gunman, meekly did as they were told and stood passively in the corridor as he shot all the women. Even if I’m wetting my panties, it’s better to have the social norm of the Titanic and fail to live up to it than to have the social norm of the Polytechnique and sink with it.

That’s the issue at the heart of Penn State’s institutional wickedness and its many deluded defenders. In my book, I also quote the writer George Jonas, back when the Royal Canadian Mounted Police were revealed to be burning down the barns of Quebec separatists: With his characteristic insouciance, the Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau responded that, if people were so bothered by illegal barn burning by the Mounties, perhaps he would make it legal. Jonas pointed out that burning barns isn’t wrong because it’s illegal, it’s illegal because it’s wrong. A society that no longer understands that distinction is in deep trouble.

To argue that a man witnessing child sex in progress has no responsibility other than to comply with procedures and report it to a colleague further up the chain of command represents a near-suicidal loss of that distinction.


33 posted on 11/19/2011 6:30:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tax-chick

I keep looking up for the big “reset” asteroid.

If Sodom earned an obliteration, what are we in for?


34 posted on 11/19/2011 6:31:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"O'Reilly is very mis-informed on many issues.."

Bill is a bloviating buffoon.

35 posted on 11/19/2011 6:34:22 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I feel confident in saying that if my mother had been in that locker room it would have been all up with Sandusky right at that point. She’s 84 years old and all of 100 pounds, but she knows the difference between right and wrong.

I'd have to ask what your mother would be doing in a men's locker room.
36 posted on 11/19/2011 6:50:38 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If the whole truth about this situation ever comes out in our lifetimes, I think we're likely to find out that depraved freaks occupy a substantial number of leadership positions in organizations where financial failure isn't an impediment. This would include mainly government, the media, "higher education," and non-profit groups of all kinds.

An interesting exercise would have been to step back and ask how much differently this story would have been covered by the media if Jerry Sandusky had been a parish priest named Fr. Sandusky, Joe Paterno was the parish pastor instead of a football coach, and Spanier was a bishop who covered up the whole situation for years.

37 posted on 11/19/2011 6:51:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Travis McGee

Eventually, the Apocalypse. The bible says Sodom was treated this way as an “example.” Seems pretty obvious that the play-out for the rest of the world that gets involved in this echelon of evil is waiting.


38 posted on 11/19/2011 6:55:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: crosshairs

Maybe if she’d been wandering by the door and heard an odd “rhythmic slapping sound” she’d get curious too.


39 posted on 11/19/2011 6:57:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Alberta's Child

Being depraved doesn’t rule out being a brilliant maker of mammon.


40 posted on 11/19/2011 7:00:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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