Posted on 11/19/2011 9:32:20 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
Not only is Newt clueless but look at that comments to the thread.
Fundamentally! Government k-12 schooling is a single payer, compulsory, socialist entitlement! Government schools **are** the very definition of socialism!
Fundamentally! Socialism and socialist programs can not be fixed. They must be abolished.
What makes me most discouraged are the comments to this thread. These guys and gals think of themselves as conservatives.
Pell Grants and subsidized student loans are vouchers. Look what vouchers have done for Big College Education. Answer: Massive tuition inflation.
Few here on Free Republic understand the political and spiritual consequences of government socialist schooling. They fail to understand that government schools trash every First Amendment human right, treat children like prisoners, are socialist and godless. That has **consequences** for our nation!
Children who attend prison-like, socialist, and godless schools risk becoming comfortable to accepting being treated like a state prisoner, thinking godlessly, and socialism.
As for the economic burden, **more** is spent on K-12 education ( not including college) than is spent on our military. Government compulsory and socialist entitlement schooling is crushing our economy.
Janitors now have to deal with all the “green” issues, there are so many regulations about what cleaning products can be used in schools and how they are allowed to be used it is not even funny. So many safety proceedures to follow, it is crazy. The children would get quite an education in government regulation and environmental issues if they did start cleaning the schools.
That would be a legitimate point, but when you compare a society that invested nothing in “public education” and ended up with a 50% literacy rate to one like hours that spends something like $10,000-$15,000 per year (or more) to “educate” kids only to end up with a 50% literacy rate . . . well, I think that makes a pretty compelling case that they were much smarter back then.
Better yet . . . let the teachers and the administration do the janitor’s task as part of their job description.
LOL! In my town the administration has already cut back positions and been denied salary increases for several years. Teachers, if they are good teachers, work pretty hard with large classrooms. A minor pay cut for them would more than pay for a janitor’s job.
What do people have against janitors anyway?
I say give the janitors a pay raise and put them in the classrooms while we're at it.
This nation's entire education system is rotton to the core, so anyone who is involved in it is likely to be subject to a lot of scrutiny.
Please don’t get me onto the subject of public schools. I’ve been warning about it for nearly fifty years. As well as the result of raunchy television, movies and media.
Besides eliminating the EPA, Herman Cain wants to also eliminate the Federal Department of Education. This would, in effect, put control of the schools back where it belongs at the local level, where the parents have more to say about curriculum. He also favors vouchers and charter schools so that competition increases quality.
The principal of a school in my county just resigned his position. He says that he would like to get involved someway in promoting virtual classes because he says “It’s the wave of the future.”
Imagine that — a public high school teacher seeing the writing on the wall.
It's not a fair comparison, of course, because the money spent on schools is (supposed to be) for the benefit of only one segment of the population: children between the ages of 5 and 18. Military spending is (presumably) for everyone's benefit, however that is measured.
The reality is there are powerful, moneyed interests with a stake in sustaining and increasing spending in both areas, as it's their bread and butter.
The taxpayers have virtually no representation in Washington and very little in the individual states, so which way do you think elected officials are going to lean?
Republicans don't get much money from the NEA and AFT, but you wonldn't know it by their votes on NCLB and other schemes to put all government schools under federal mandates.
You are correct because one of the fundamental responsibilities of government is to defend the borders from begin overwhelmed by armies or refugees. Having a military defense is absolutely necessary( The other responsibilites are to provide honest courts and to put criminals in prison.) Schools however are **not** a fundamental responsibility of a government.
However....The comparison does help to hammer home how much we are spending on the K-12 socialist schooling.
The money drained from the private sector to support socialist entitlement schooling would otherwise be used to create wealth and health for all to enjoy around the world. This sick socialist system of schooling also ensnares armies of American citizens as employees and vendors to the schools, and their creativity is removed from the private sector.
And....I also agree that Republicans walk hand in hand with this socialist schooling monster. I fear that only complete collapse will bring Americans to their senses.
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