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Iowans Miffed at a Noncommittal Mitt Romney (and that's putting it mildly)
The Atlantic ^ | November 19, 2011 | Molly Ball

Posted on 11/19/2011 9:35:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

DES MOINES -- On Saturday afternoon at a megachurch in Des Moines, the Republican presidential candidates will gather -- with a notable exception.

....To add insult to injury, he [Mitt Romney] will be spending the day in New Hampshire.

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"Governor Branstad has enormous respect for Governor Romney, but he has decided it's time to hold his feet to the fire," Albrecht said.

Steve Scheffler, head of another Iowa social conservative group, the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, also hosted six candidates -- but no Romney -- at a forum last month. "I think he's arrogant," Scheffler said bluntly in an interview.

"It's becoming irritating to a lot of people that he's not showing up to things," said Scheffler, who is also the state's Republican National Committeeman. There were 1,200 attendees at his event, he noted, all of them likely caucus-goers. Hundreds also attended the Republican Party of Iowa's Nov. 4 Reagan Dinner, and hundreds are expected at Saturday's two events.

Scheffler vowed that the conservatives of Iowa would not take Romney's disrespect lying down, and indeed, anger at Romney appears to be the cause that unites the two pillars of the Iowa GOP -- the business-oriented establishment, represented by Branstad, and the social-conservative grassroots, represented by the FAMiLY LEADER, whose head, Bob Vander Plaats, ran against Branstad in the 2010 gubernatorial primary.

"For him to deliberately shun these events is an insult to Iowans," Scheffler said. And despite early polls showing Romney near the top of the pack, Iowans, he vowed, will have their revenge.

"There is a really strong desire among people who don't want to see Romney win this state," he said. "Don't discount the possibility that people will coalesce around one or two other candidates just to ensure Mitt Romney doesn't win the state by default."

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1 posted on 11/19/2011 9:35:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am not a political strategist, but I am puzzled why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters. Can any of you experts out there tell me the logic in this?


2 posted on 11/19/2011 9:38:40 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

because he knows he can’t win it, and he doesn’t want to make it sound like he tried and lost, it’s better in his mind to have refused to participate and lose.


3 posted on 11/19/2011 9:41:09 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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4 posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Pretty big gamble. If he stmbles in NH after losing Iowa, he’s gone, because he wont win SC and FL is a coin flip.


5 posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:50 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I think you nailed it. Romney is setting up the spin as to why he won’t do well in Iowa, as he is putting all his eggs into the New Hampshire primary basket.


6 posted on 11/19/2011 9:47:46 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

yep, Rudy played the same game in 2008 and crapped out.

You have to fight for every state.


7 posted on 11/19/2011 9:49:42 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
“I am not a political strategist, but I am puzzled why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters. Can any of you experts out there tell me the logic in this?”

Last time Romney went all in on Iowa spending millions and lost badly. He doesn't want to waste time and money to again look like the fool he is. If Gingrich can kick is ash in NH he is finished.

8 posted on 11/19/2011 9:52:04 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain wins IA
Gingrich wins NH
Cain wins SC
Cain wins FL

Maybe then the MSM will stop calling Romney the “frontrunner”.


9 posted on 11/19/2011 9:54:26 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

——why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters——

So he can make a mind blowing triumphal comeback in New Hampshire


10 posted on 11/19/2011 9:54:41 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Last time Romney all but lived in Iowa for a year, still lost big time.


11 posted on 11/19/2011 9:55:23 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: greatvikingone

Whatever state Romney wins, the MSM will say it shows he’s the frontrunner and it gives him momentum going forward to the nomination. Whatever state Cain, Gingrich, Perry or Paul win the MSM will ignore or write off on the way to Romney’s inevitable nomination.

“Oh Iowa was never in play for Romney, he’ll take the rest though!”


12 posted on 11/19/2011 9:56:43 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
There is a paragraph in the article that begins:

"To be sure,........"

Which seems to try and cover your question.

But it may also be due to comments in this article:

"You can't win this state without showing up," said Phil Stone, a retired high school history teacher and current Perry city councilman. The lifelong Republican favors former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney,....

...........Neither the tea party nor evangelical Republicans have made much of a splash in Perry. "That's mostly the mega-churches over in Des Moines," Pattee said.

Bob VanderPlaats, the minister and evangelical activist who organized Saturday's Thanksgiving Family Forum in Des Moines, doesn't play well in Perry [Iowa]."....Source

13 posted on 11/19/2011 9:58:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I hardly consider New Hampshire anywhere near representative of a national consensus on leadership. They certainly have a voice, but not anything that resembles a decisive factor in a national election. That romney[care] is placing anywhere in the top 10 sustains my opinion on this.
14 posted on 11/19/2011 9:58:26 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney knows if he doesn't carry NH - considered his ‘other’ home state - he has a house there - he'll be toast.

What to do? What to do?

gotta love his dilemma.

hopefully it'll be bye bye for the wooden candidate

15 posted on 11/19/2011 9:58:36 AM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think the slime at the MSM is attempting to salvage their credibility by admitting that Mitt Romney only appeals to the Elitist Inside the Beltway Republicans.

Make no mistake about it. Mitt Romney is a flip flopping liberal. Why else do you think the Media and Press do not attack him?

Whoever the Media and Press attack politically in this race, then you can bet that candidate is a conservative. However, once the Republican candidate is decided... Expect the Media and Press to attack them and defend Obama.

16 posted on 11/19/2011 10:06:51 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Screw Iowa - all the state has given us is ethanol mandates...


17 posted on 11/19/2011 10:09:05 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
Perry wants a “level playing field” & an end to ethanol mandate (audio)

......"“We don’t need to have government picking winners and losers in this business,” Perry said during a news conference in Des Moines. “Let the folks get out there with the regulations off their back. I have a good idea that the farmers in Iowa can compete with anybody in the world.”.......

18 posted on 11/19/2011 10:16:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sprite518

You’ve pegged that 1000% right!


19 posted on 11/19/2011 10:18:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I am not a political strategist, but I am puzzled why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters. Can any of you experts out there tell me the logic in this?

It's strange. Even though Huckabee won and picked up 17 delegates, Romney still got 12 delegates out of Iowa - Thompson and McCain each got 3. Unless Iowa became a winner take all state for 2012.

In this instance, it maybe that Mitt feels the evangelicals will be hostile to him or his religious beliefs. Given the forum, he would probably be asked about his beliefs at some point.

And he maybe worried that Newt will take New Hampshire.
20 posted on 11/19/2011 10:23:21 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
"I think he's arrogant," Scheffler said bluntly in an interview.

Two comments:

  1. It took him this long to figure that out.
  2. Iowa is a pissant state with an inflated sense of self-importance. So, for that matter, is New Hampshire, but its record of picking winners isn't quite as poor as Iowa's.

21 posted on 11/19/2011 10:23:33 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
“2.Iowa is a pissant state with an inflated sense of self-importance.”

Nice comment. So what pissant state do you live in?

22 posted on 11/19/2011 10:27:01 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: greatvikingone
Florida is where the nomination will be decided. It has been for the last 50 years. You can't ignore the other three (like Rooty did) and expect to make up for it in Florida, but neither should you overestimate the value of the two pissant states with an inflated sense of self-importance.

South Carolina may be an early voting state as well, but it doesn't share the cloying inflated sense of self-importance with NH and IA.

23 posted on 11/19/2011 10:29:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
One of the three which has decided every presidential election since 1896. Win two of the three and you squeak in. Win all three and its a cakewalk.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with being a small state. Wyoming happens to be my favorite. I just take issue with one having an inflated sense of self-importance. I'm tired of Sodom-on-the-Prairie thinking they can pick nominees for the rest of us.

24 posted on 11/19/2011 10:35:12 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
It took him this long to figure that out.

It took him that "long" to say it out loud.

25 posted on 11/19/2011 10:39:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

and after 5 years in IA, he figures he knows who his supporters are. And the folks at these events are not going to support Mitt. So no loss for him and he lowers the expectation of victory in IA.

It is peculiar that if he tried real hard in Iowa, he would not do any better and might do worse than he will with a half effort. Cuz the more he is seen as fighting it out their, the more opposition he riles up. Maybe.


26 posted on 11/19/2011 10:39:29 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Saboteur Romney to the People of Iowa





Mitt Romney Sends Leftover Pizza to Obama Chicago HQ
After spending the day in Chicago fundraising, Mitt Romney
sat down with small business owners at Gino's East,
a pizza joint famous for their deep-dish pizza.
In fact, Romney himself tweeted a photo of a
delivery boy heading out with the loot, writing,
"Great deep dish at @ginoseast.
Sending the extra slices to @barackobama and his Chicago HQ team."

27 posted on 11/19/2011 10:41:13 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

My thoughts exactly. Must be this great Texas heritage.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 10:48:23 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Of course he's arrogant, HE's A MORMON !

They teach all of the 12 year old boys that they hold more power in the eyes of God(s) than the President of the United States !

They teach the 18 year olds that they are the Saviors of the world !....Really !

29 posted on 11/19/2011 10:55:57 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Vigilanteman
You are jealous of the attention focused here; understandable that people feel that way.

Keep in mind however that we are not truly the ones “picking” these nominees. The nation is doing it now.

Of the “sorting” that has so far happened; how much of it is do to my state of Iowa?
Very little. The debates; the gaffes that have happened; are not Iowa centered.

The pools which are reflecting preferences; are mostly national polls.

There is value in having candidates get into small states and meet people face to face.
If not; all it would require is a lot of money and slick ad campaigns.
That would give us people like Mitt Romney.

30 posted on 11/19/2011 10:57:22 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“I am puzzled why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters”

My guess is he’s tired of so-called Christians kicking sand in his face and eyes, condemning him to hell along with the Jews and Catholics. One can only take so much.

The “mega Church” title should give you a clue. Romney probably knows the anti Mormons will show up and pick some kind of stupid faith fight. He’s turning the other cheek IMHO.


31 posted on 11/19/2011 10:59:38 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: SENTINEL

sanctimonious self righteous bigots, ya just can’t please them


32 posted on 11/19/2011 11:03:52 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SENTINEL

sanctimonious self righteous bigots, ya just can’t please them


33 posted on 11/19/2011 11:04:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Romney's Achilles' heel is the Heartland of America can't stand him and won't be bought off with his tens of millions of personal dollars.

Conservatives want someone with stronger conservative principles than Romney. Sadly, even McCain fit that bill last cycle. This time, ALL of the other SEVEN candidates do!

Romney = Toast

34 posted on 11/19/2011 11:40:54 AM PST by CainConservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't care about Romney, or his chances in Iowa, but really--Iowans need to get over themselves. The only reason anyone pays any attention to them at all is the circumstance of going first, and for all their hyped up seriousness, they usually seem to come up with some really bogus "winners."
35 posted on 11/19/2011 11:43:28 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I am not a political strategist, but I am puzzled why Romney would deliberately kick sand in the face of Iowa Voters. Can any of you experts out there tell me the logic in this?

Because he's not going to win there and he knows it. He'll take his third or fourth place finish and more on. It's more important to make sure he wins New Hampshire by as large a margin as possible.

36 posted on 11/19/2011 11:47:03 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Saundra Duffy

But Willard keeps tellin us he’s a Christian. He can’t even stand up for or defend his own faith — and he wants to be President???


37 posted on 11/19/2011 11:58:45 AM PST by CainConservative
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To: CainConservative

It bears repeating: If Newt and Cain blow him away in Iowa, Willard won’t be having such a nice time in New Hampshire after all.


38 posted on 11/19/2011 12:02:25 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: Saundra Duffy

My last post was for 31. Oops!


39 posted on 11/19/2011 12:03:40 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One thing you have to admire about the great (and seriously, he is great with jobs and energy) Governor James Richard Perry..

IS that he is determined to come in 5th place in Iowa.

40 posted on 11/19/2011 12:10:52 PM PST by CainConservative
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41 posted on 11/19/2011 12:38:27 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: CainConservative

Perry tells the truth.


42 posted on 11/19/2011 12:51:26 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Saundra Duffy

So Romney is a coward AND a backstabber of women.

DISGUSTING PIG, he is.


43 posted on 11/19/2011 1:43:11 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Saundra Duffy

It’s because he an unreliable, flip-flopping liberal.


44 posted on 11/19/2011 2:33:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Love all his ads and this one is excellent too. Thanks you CW for all the work you do sharing things about Perry.


45 posted on 11/19/2011 3:18:49 PM PST by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! NEVER Romney! And no thank you Cain.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What I don’t about the “Mitt is inevitable” crap is that we’re talking about a guy who will probably lose two of the three big opening contests. He will probably lose Iowa, win New Hamster and then get his butt handed to him in SC. If the same conservative wins IA and SC, Romney’s going to look bad; if two different conservatives win them, Romney will look like just one of the pack, not the inevitable nominee.


46 posted on 11/19/2011 7:10:13 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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