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Butterball Turkeys are Halal (No, not kidding)
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Posted on 11/20/2011 12:08:37 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi

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61 posted on 11/20/2011 3:48:49 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SgtHooper

You can bless it before you buy it, or bless it on the table before you cut it.

I can do without Butterball.


62 posted on 11/20/2011 4:01:39 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Zakeet

peta sucks but that turkey is a Royal Palm, I use to raise them but they had a different head...tee hee :O)


63 posted on 11/20/2011 4:20:15 PM PST by goat granny
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To: FatherofFive
You are correct, farm raised fowl taste different than store bought fowl...Even the texture of the meat is better. Our farm raised meat chickens my husband would sell at work and once tasted, they would buy more..

I think store chickens are soaked in water to add to the weigh but also effects the taste and texture and sell for less than buying farm raised...but I would only buy farm chickens from someone I knew. We didn't use hormones either in our chickens..

I sure do miss having a farm...

64 posted on 11/20/2011 4:27:16 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Even the texture of the meat is better.

That is the biggest difference. Once people taste what a real turkey tastes like, they never go back.

65 posted on 11/20/2011 5:19:38 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Vegetarian for forty years here, and I agree 100%. PETA can go to hell.


66 posted on 11/20/2011 5:51:44 PM PST by SupplySider
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Well the way I see it in the bible there were two main ways animals were sacrificed. Either the animals was burn for the smoke to go to God or the priest ate then after the ceremony. So in reality neither are true here. Note one other type which would have been the passover and that was a bit different IE third type.

Frankly by blessing it in the Lords name I say that trumps anything else, But as you say do as your conscious dictates.


67 posted on 11/20/2011 6:57:56 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: grayeagle

Did you read the real ingredients? Soy protien isolates! just YUM! not


68 posted on 11/20/2011 7:35:52 PM PST by bog trotter
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
You might go hungry if you were to eliminate all the foods that are Halal Certified. That being said... I only buy fresh, free-range turkeys. Frozen ones are tasteless & dry in comparison.

HOWEVER, if you do the organic free-range birds, you will not be finding the gargantuan ones. You will need to buy two. The really big ones are that way because of hormones & antibiotics & more that are force-fed to the birds.

69 posted on 11/20/2011 10:38:52 PM PST by AZWildman
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
There is a “Butterball Turkey” plant in Huntsville Arkansas, a very small town (it doesn't even have a stop light and it's paper is only ounce a week).The majority of the work force is from, shall we say, south of the border and it's well known that the city and county police have a hands off attitude towards them. But as far as I've heard there are no muslims much less imams there. So how many plants does “Butterball” have? Or are they lying to our peaceful islamists?
70 posted on 11/21/2011 12:10:51 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

YAY Multiculturism!! NOT!!

I did notice that the PRICE of butterball turkeys went up a good forty cents per pound from last year (had one in my deep freezer from last year)

THANKS OBAMA!!!! /s


71 posted on 11/22/2011 4:31:03 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: FatherofFive

Your belief is not mistaken, and any Islamic charity which is not a front for terrorism has just not been investigated yet.


72 posted on 11/22/2011 4:39:36 AM PST by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Larry Lucido
But is it Kosher?

Here's the rub: what does it mean to be Kosher? The problem is that we don't have a true, agreed-upon-by-everybody standard for kosher, and rabbis can argue about this pretty much forever. It's bad enough it has become a bit of a joke inside Jewish communities, in my opinion!

73 posted on 11/22/2011 5:04:46 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Excellence
Halal means the animal is slaughtered by the same method that Nick Berg was slaughtered.

Maybe Butterball should brand their top of the line turkeys 'The Pearl'.

Shame on Butterball. Shame.

75 posted on 11/28/2011 4:05:26 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

This is such a pointless waste of bandwidth that it fully deserves the epithet “stupid.”

The first bolded remark, about animals not being improperly slaughtered or dead before being slaughtered is essentially saying that the animals shouldn’t be carrion or roadkill before being sliced and diced and served up as fit for human consumption - unless you like roadkill, I see nothing objectionable about that statement.

The second bolded remark, about the animals not being slaughtered in the name of anyone other than Allah is also utterly irrelevant because Butterball doesn’t slaughter its turkeys in the name of anyone or anything other than, perhaps in the name of profit (which, to-date, is not a recognized cult or religion). Big deal. That remark does not mean that an animal must be slaughtered in the name of Allah, all it means is that the slaughter of the animal cannot have been part of the recognition or sacrifice to some deity other than God and, since everyone seems to have forgotten the point, Allah is the same God as the God of the Torah, and thus of the Old Testament (and of the New Testament as well). Since there are, obviously, a doctrinal differences over the status of Jesus - to my recollection, Islam grants that He was a prophet, but disagrees with the proposition that He was the Messiah - so slaughtering an animal in the name of Jesus would run afowl (pun intended) of the prohibition; however, as far as I can recall, the Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross made animal sacrifice a thing of the past, permanently, so not only does Butterball not sacrifice its turkeys in the name of anyone, it certainly wouldn’t be sacrificing them in the name of Jesus because Christians no longer perform animal sacrifice as part of their worship of God.

All of which is the long way of saying that there is no downside to Butterball taking advantage of Halal to sell its products to a wider audience - that is what capitalism and free markets are all about, so I say: right on Butterball, keep doing what you’re doing because, in addition to making more profit for your shareholders, you’re also watering down the mystical meaning of “Halal” by turning it into nothing more than just another dietary preference, like the difference between choosing Coca-cola over Diet Coke.


76 posted on 11/28/2011 4:17:52 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Oceander
Besides, the method of slaughter is just as important to something being halal as the "in the name of Allah," who, incidentally, is not "the same God as the God of the Torah, and thus of the Old Testament." That idea, like a relationship of Muslims to Abraham via Ishmael (there exists no genetic evidence whatsoever) and a major portion of the Koran, was appropriated by Mohammed from the Jews and Christians who formed the high tech society of the Arabian Peninsula in his day. Virtually all turkeys are killed in a method that is halal. They are hung upside down, their throats are cut, and they are allowed to bleed out.
77 posted on 11/28/2011 4:27:35 AM PST by aruanan
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To: manc
Butterball Turkeys are Halal (No, not kidding)

"well I won’;t ever be getting their products again."
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
--I Cor 8:4-8
Have you so recently left idol worship? Materially it is NOTHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS EATEN. The method of slaughter is exactly the same.
78 posted on 11/28/2011 4:38:23 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Oceander

You should read the replies before posting to a thread. Much of what you say has been refuted. Moreover if you would google your assumptions before posting then you could avoid such phrases as “essentially”, “perhaps”, “to my recollection”, “as far as I can recall”. Last a bit of self directed education and some Bible study wouldn’t hurt either.


79 posted on 11/28/2011 5:38:26 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: aruanan

The Believer’s Freedom

23“Everything is permissible”—but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible”—but not everything is constructive. 24Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.

25Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”c

27If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28But if anyone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience’ saked


80 posted on 11/28/2011 5:45:19 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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