Skip to comments.30,000 NE Ohio homes await demolition
Posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:13 AM PST by EBH
Local lawmakers believe more federal demolition funds must be found to stop the dramatic drop in northeast Ohio property values.
Former Cuyahoga County Treasurer Jim Rokakis said he believes the number of condemned homes and buildings in northeast Ohio has ballooned to 30,000.
Rokakis blamed foreclosures and irresponsible banks, investment firms and individuals who have walked away or ignored their distressed properties.
The growth in vacant houses comes at a time when federal neighborhood stabilization funds, used to demolish these homes, will soon run dry.
Rokakis said vacant homes are one of the leading causes of a dramatic drop in regional property values.
"After 10 years of foreclosure crisis, we have an absolutely stunning drop in property values," said Rokakis. "This is not just the problem of the inner city, it's now become the problem of every homeowner in Cuyahoga County."
Rokakis pointed to a study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland...
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I’m sure this will not effect the voter turnout in the area.
We have the homeless, and we have vacant homes. It’s a shame most of the homeless have been so tainted by drugs or by liberalism that there is no point in putting them into the unwanted homes awaiting demolition. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Pelosi, and Obama have a lot to answer for.
“Rokakis said he believes dropping property values will cause thousand of homeowners to demand lower property taxes during reassessments in 2012.”
Does anyone realize house prices can’t always go up and maybe younger workers need cheaper starter homes?
Citydata shows 69% voted for Obama.
Google shows their population has been dropping since 1980.
Message from Oklahoma to Ohio: tear down your own damn houses. Why do you need tax dollars from other states to solve your problems? Use some of those protected union workers to tear them down.
Hows that free trade working for ya Ohio?
and to think I almost moved there, courtesy of Allen-Bradley
“Citydata shows 69% voted for Obama.”
It’s everything you’d expect from a Democrat stronghold. In your face corruption. Staggering taxes, and a government that can’t get anything done.
So real estate interests are wanting the default and collapse to be more complete. They scoff at the consequences of their vain, thieving and lazy decisions while blaming various others. Alright. That’s the way we’ll go. Enjoy the interesting times and changes in character of leadership ahead.
Now don’t be thinking creatively like that. Everyone knows that the only solution to all government problems is to raise more revenue. :) I, for one, would like to see these so called distressed homes. Are they actually run down or is this just another, blighted area, eminent domain land grab.
Hell, give a couple rowdy kids a bulldozer and have them go to town. When I was 18 I’d have done that for free for the thrill.
Why not recycle? Homes are mostly wood..and seasoned wood is always of value, every for firewood. There's metal..piping, and other stuff..so why not hire some of the unemployed..not that expensive..minimum wage or a little higher..not that expensive...put them is small crews..to tear down these homes, sort out all the salvagable stuff..I bet much of it could be sold overseas...
And the solution to the problems in the northeast is more liberal politicians, and more powerful union labor. /s
If this were a Republican president, you would see this on the nightly news about once every five seconds. Does Obama get the same coverage? Kind of like the Reagan/Clinton homeless phenomena: there were millions of homeless under the heartless Reagan, but they all seemed to have disappeared under Bubba. The press is no longer free, as they are bound to their ideologies and personal biases.
“...homeowners to demand lower property taxes...”
I just finished up my appeal of the county’s valuation of my house for property taxes.
The process was not unlike a negotiation with a used car dealer.
Or separate the copper from the galvanized pipes. And the concrete from the wood. Or dispose of the asbestos ceilings and tiles. And send all recyclables to the various plants (some overseas).
Ever since getting into the environmental field years ago, I knew what a drain it would be. The tons and tons of money fixing a “problem” and you don't get one thing out of it - just putting something back to “normal”.
The quotes are how big of a problem is it when someone is living in a home but it becomes vacant, you want to tear it down, and now it is this huge environmental problem? And how “normal” will these suburbs be anyway ever again? Bulldoze them into the basements, and cover them with a couple feet of dirt. Heck, maybe even let the crack-heads go after the pipes and wiring first if that makes you feel better about recycling.
Dennis Kucinich is also the Congressional rep for a good portion of that area too. Tells me all I need to know about the voters there.
To redistribute wealth, watch for Obama to play G-d and invoke a form of "Jubilee" before the elections, and literally give these homes away for $1 as a form of Homsteading for the "underserved"
Think I am crazy?
Look at the wealth transfer done @ GM from Bondholders to Unions etc and all the levers of power that are beholden to him post TARP and Porkulus, and the power of Fannie and Freddie....
Thats too simple and it would actually work.(scoff, scoff). LOL
Did you win?
I already requested a reduction the last time. Got it too.
I already requested a reduction the last time. Got it too.
What is “Allen-Bradley”?
they need to be trained to the OSHA standards...
lead paint, asbestos, hazardous waste, black mold...
suddenly they ain’t such cheap labor.
Good. Around here, they anounced that the millage rate would go up, to compensate for an across-the board reduction in valuation.
Only, my valuation went up.
Maybe they should just burn the homes to support prices - like they did with food under the New Deal AAA.
The Ohians (?) who have all the answers, are on other threads criticizing Texas and how we do things! LOL!
That is the answer I see them coming back with, an increase in the millage.
When I make a mistake, I get out my eraser.
Here's something useful for your mouth:
Or confiscate gold the way FDR did to ignite inflation with fiat money and raise the prices of everything.
Like I said, it was a negotiation...
neither side got everything they wanted.
I was surprised by the process.
They started out taxing me at $220K value.
I challenged that the “real” value based on comparables was $180K.
After three rounds of back-and-forth, we “settled” at $186K.
I think most folks just take the county’s word for it and do not challenge.
A new listing showed up in my neighborhood today,
not quite comparable to mine and priced at $162K.
When more taxpayer’s begin to catch on,
many county budgets will be devastated.
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Every real industrial concern in America has something from Allen-Bradley on site.
It would be easier and cheaper just to burn them to the ground and plow over.
Cuyahoga county is not representative of the rest of Ohio at all so please don[’t blame us for what the idiots do up there.We’ve been fighting them for years so I am glad there are less brain dead liberals here now.
The real reason eludes him. Cleavland just isn’t worth a damn
From your lips to G-ds ears! IMHO all level of government need about a 60% haircut.If tax rates go down like that they will have to shed in order to survive.
It never was. It's always been Pittsburgh-On-The-Lake. The real Ohio starts south of Mansfield.
In Vietnam we all had nightmares about Cleveland.
Nothing wrong with Cleveland & Akron that a little “Jewish Lightning” wouldn’t cure.