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30,000 NE Ohio homes await demolition
MSNBC ^ | 11/21/11

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:13 AM PST by EBH

Local lawmakers believe more federal demolition funds must be found to stop the dramatic drop in northeast Ohio property values.

Former Cuyahoga County Treasurer Jim Rokakis said he believes the number of condemned homes and buildings in northeast Ohio has ballooned to 30,000.

Rokakis blamed foreclosures and irresponsible banks, investment firms and individuals who have walked away or ignored their distressed properties.

The growth in vacant houses comes at a time when federal neighborhood stabilization funds, used to demolish these homes, will soon run dry.

Rokakis said vacant homes are one of the leading causes of a dramatic drop in regional property values.

"After 10 years of foreclosure crisis, we have an absolutely stunning drop in property values," said Rokakis. "This is not just the problem of the inner city, it's now become the problem of every homeowner in Cuyahoga County."

Rokakis pointed to a study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: fannie; foreclosures; galtnow; housing; nosale; obamaville; selfsufficiencynow; survivalism
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1 posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:14 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

I’m sure this will not effect the voter turnout in the area.


2 posted on 11/21/2011 11:56:20 AM PST by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: EBH

We have the homeless, and we have vacant homes. It’s a shame most of the homeless have been so tainted by drugs or by liberalism that there is no point in putting them into the unwanted homes awaiting demolition. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Pelosi, and Obama have a lot to answer for.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: EBH

“Rokakis said he believes dropping property values will cause thousand of homeowners to demand lower property taxes during reassessments in 2012.”

You think?


4 posted on 11/21/2011 11:58:30 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: EBH

Does anyone realize house prices can’t always go up and maybe younger workers need cheaper starter homes?


5 posted on 11/21/2011 11:58:56 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ping


6 posted on 11/21/2011 12:03:28 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Recon Dad

Citydata shows 69% voted for Obama.

http://www.city-data.com/county/Cuyahoga_County-OH.html

Google shows their population has been dropping since 1980.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=county:39035&dl=en&hl=en&q=cuyahoga+county+population


7 posted on 11/21/2011 12:04:53 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: EBH

Message from Oklahoma to Ohio: tear down your own damn houses. Why do you need tax dollars from other states to solve your problems? Use some of those protected union workers to tear them down.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 12:06:40 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: EBH

Hows that free trade working for ya Ohio?


9 posted on 11/21/2011 12:06:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: patton

and to think I almost moved there, courtesy of Allen-Bradley


10 posted on 11/21/2011 12:07:03 PM PST by brivette (lol!)
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To: lacrew

“Citydata shows 69% voted for Obama.”

It’s everything you’d expect from a Democrat stronghold. In your face corruption. Staggering taxes, and a government that can’t get anything done.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 12:08:11 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: EBH

So real estate interests are wanting the default and collapse to be more complete. They scoff at the consequences of their vain, thieving and lazy decisions while blaming various others. Alright. That’s the way we’ll go. Enjoy the interesting times and changes in character of leadership ahead.


12 posted on 11/21/2011 12:10:11 PM PST by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Williams

Now don’t be thinking creatively like that. Everyone knows that the only solution to all government problems is to raise more revenue. :) I, for one, would like to see these so called distressed homes. Are they actually run down or is this just another, blighted area, eminent domain land grab.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 12:13:38 PM PST by Racer1
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To: Williams
LOL, they moved, this is rust belt, steel jobs all gone mini detroits. Cleveland lost 17% of it population in past ten years. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-09-ohio-census_N.htm
14 posted on 11/21/2011 12:14:27 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Hell, give a couple rowdy kids a bulldozer and have them go to town. When I was 18 I’d have done that for free for the thrill.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 12:14:29 PM PST by RockinRight (The circular firing squad among conservatives has Romney smiling.)
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To: Williams
LOL, they moved, this is rust belt, steel jobs all gone mini detroits. Cleveland lost 17% of it population in past ten years. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-09-ohio-census_N.htm
16 posted on 11/21/2011 12:14:30 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Williams
LOL, they moved, this is rust belt, steel jobs all gone mini detroits. Cleveland lost 17% of it population in past ten years. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-09-ohio-census_N.htm
17 posted on 11/21/2011 12:14:34 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: EBH
When they demolish homes, they send in a bulldozer, or a backhoe, to smash it, and dumpstruck to cart it off to a landfill.

Why not recycle? Homes are mostly wood..and seasoned wood is always of value, every for firewood. There's metal..piping, and other stuff..so why not hire some of the unemployed..not that expensive..minimum wage or a little higher..not that expensive...put them is small crews..to tear down these homes, sort out all the salvagable stuff..I bet much of it could be sold overseas...

18 posted on 11/21/2011 12:16:12 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Williams
"Does anyone realize house prices can’t always go up and maybe younger workers need cheaper starter homes?"

No. We've been informed for decades, while moving manufacturing overseas, that all people without mortgages/ownership are liberals on drugs. Never mind that nearly all who have mortgages and concerns about their "property values" are revenue-sucking, bipartisan, commie constituents.

We'll go with that. Enjoy TEOTWAWKI and a better world with more independent nations and smaller governments in the future. It appears that they would like to see terminations and abolitions of all pensions with their efforts. So be it.


19 posted on 11/21/2011 12:17:57 PM PST by familyop
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To: EBH

And the solution to the problems in the northeast is more liberal politicians, and more powerful union labor. /s


20 posted on 11/21/2011 12:19:58 PM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: EBH

If this were a Republican president, you would see this on the nightly news about once every five seconds. Does Obama get the same coverage? Kind of like the Reagan/Clinton homeless phenomena: there were millions of homeless under the heartless Reagan, but they all seemed to have disappeared under Bubba. The press is no longer free, as they are bound to their ideologies and personal biases.


21 posted on 11/21/2011 12:22:01 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: patton

“...homeowners to demand lower property taxes...”
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I just finished up my appeal of the county’s valuation of my house for property taxes.
The process was not unlike a negotiation with a used car dealer.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 12:27:13 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: RockinRight
I doubt those rowdy kids are going to test the various things for asbestos, lead, etc.

Or separate the copper from the galvanized pipes. And the concrete from the wood. Or dispose of the asbestos ceilings and tiles. And send all recyclables to the various plants (some overseas).

Ever since getting into the environmental field years ago, I knew what a drain it would be. The tons and tons of money fixing a “problem” and you don't get one thing out of it - just putting something back to “normal”.

The quotes are how big of a problem is it when someone is living in a home but it becomes vacant, you want to tear it down, and now it is this huge environmental problem? And how “normal” will these suburbs be anyway ever again? Bulldoze them into the basements, and cover them with a couple feet of dirt. Heck, maybe even let the crack-heads go after the pipes and wiring first if that makes you feel better about recycling.

23 posted on 11/21/2011 12:27:13 PM PST by 21twelve ("We can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust....and another lost generation.")
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To: lacrew
Citydata shows 69% voted for Obama.

Dennis Kucinich is also the Congressional rep for a good portion of that area too. Tells me all I need to know about the voters there.

24 posted on 11/21/2011 12:30:29 PM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Pollster1; All
We have the homeless, and we have vacant homes. It’s a shame most of the homeless have been so tainted by drugs or by liberalism that there is no point in putting them into the unwanted homes awaiting demolition. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Pelosi, and Obama have a lot to answer for.

To redistribute wealth, watch for Obama to play G-d and invoke a form of "Jubilee" before the elections, and literally give these homes away for $1 as a form of Homsteading for the "underserved"

Think I am crazy?

Look at the wealth transfer done @ GM from Bondholders to Unions etc and all the levers of power that are beholden to him post TARP and Porkulus, and the power of Fannie and Freddie....

25 posted on 11/21/2011 12:31:36 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: ken5050

Thats too simple and it would actually work.(scoff, scoff). LOL


26 posted on 11/21/2011 12:34:54 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ohio Ping!

To be added to the Ohio Ping List, please freepmail (works best),
both LasVegasDave and Flutters.

27 posted on 11/21/2011 12:39:51 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (The DemocRATic party preys on the ignorant!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Did you win?


28 posted on 11/21/2011 12:54:19 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton

I already requested a reduction the last time. Got it too.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 12:54:39 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: patton

I already requested a reduction the last time. Got it too.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 12:54:39 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: brivette

What is “Allen-Bradley”?


31 posted on 11/21/2011 12:55:09 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: ken5050

they need to be trained to the OSHA standards...

lead paint, asbestos, hazardous waste, black mold...

suddenly they ain’t such cheap labor.


32 posted on 11/21/2011 12:58:02 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

Good. Around here, they anounced that the millage rate would go up, to compensate for an across-the board reduction in valuation.

Only, my valuation went up.

Crud.


33 posted on 11/21/2011 12:58:21 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: EBH

Maybe they should just burn the homes to support prices - like they did with food under the New Deal AAA.


34 posted on 11/21/2011 12:59:30 PM PST by frithguild (Restricting access to capital - Liberalism: The sharpest tool of big business, banks, etc.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon; buccaneer81

The Ohians (?) who have all the answers, are on other threads criticizing Texas and how we do things! LOL!


35 posted on 11/21/2011 1:01:15 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: frithguild
Maybe they should just burn the homes to support prices

I thought about that too, but you might catch one of those Ohio rivers on fire, they have a tendancy to burn you know, the democrats speak a good game, but thier rivers are filthy ...
36 posted on 11/21/2011 1:03:43 PM PST by Scythian
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To: patton

That is the answer I see them coming back with, an increase in the millage.


37 posted on 11/21/2011 1:03:49 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EBH

When I make a mistake, I get out my eraser.


38 posted on 11/21/2011 1:08:49 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: lonestar
You were saying?

Here's something useful for your mouth:


39 posted on 11/21/2011 1:09:27 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: frithguild

Or confiscate gold the way FDR did to ignite inflation with fiat money and raise the prices of everything.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 1:13:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: patton

Like I said, it was a negotiation...
neither side got everything they wanted.

I was surprised by the process.

They started out taxing me at $220K value.
I challenged that the “real” value based on comparables was $180K.
After three rounds of back-and-forth, we “settled” at $186K.

I think most folks just take the county’s word for it and do not challenge.

A new listing showed up in my neighborhood today,
not quite comparable to mine and priced at $162K.

When more taxpayer’s begin to catch on,
many county budgets will be devastated.


41 posted on 11/21/2011 1:13:25 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: patton
What is “Allen-Bradley”?

"Allen-Bradley products from Rockwell Automation include integrated control and information platforms, intelligent motor control and industrial components."

Every real industrial concern in America has something from Allen-Bradley on site.

42 posted on 11/21/2011 1:13:25 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: EBH

It would be easier and cheaper just to burn them to the ground and plow over.


43 posted on 11/21/2011 1:13:30 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: driftdiver

Cuyahoga county is not representative of the rest of Ohio at all so please don[’t blame us for what the idiots do up there.We’ve been fighting them for years so I am glad there are less brain dead liberals here now.


44 posted on 11/21/2011 1:16:18 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: EBH

The real reason eludes him. Cleavland just isn’t worth a damn


45 posted on 11/21/2011 1:18:36 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Repeal The 17th

From your lips to G-ds ears! IMHO all level of government need about a 60% haircut.If tax rates go down like that they will have to shed in order to survive.


46 posted on 11/21/2011 1:22:06 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Repeal The 17th

Good job.


47 posted on 11/21/2011 1:25:22 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: buccaneer81

Tanks.


48 posted on 11/21/2011 1:26:22 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: bert
Cleavland just isn’t worth a damn

It never was. It's always been Pittsburgh-On-The-Lake. The real Ohio starts south of Mansfield.

49 posted on 11/21/2011 1:31:16 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

In Vietnam we all had nightmares about Cleveland.

Nothing wrong with Cleveland & Akron that a little “Jewish Lightning” wouldn’t cure.


50 posted on 11/21/2011 1:48:14 PM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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