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To: jessduntno
Well, I think if you have a secure border, if you've established that English is the official language of government, if you have a requirement for learning history in order to be an American, and American history to be an American citizen, and if you have an effective guest worker program, which means it's probably been outsourced to American Express, Visa or MasterCard, because they know how to stop fraud, at that point, I think you've got to look at a new and much more creative solution for the people who are here.

Wow. That's a lof IFs. Are those things you would pursue as President, Newt. Or are you just "thinking out loud"?

Some people here ought to go home. Some people here, are engaged in criminal activity and ought to go home immediately.

They OUGHT to go home? Wow. Tough talk there, Newt. You sure you don't want to tone it down a bit?

Other people, day workers, no ties to the U.S., probably should go home.

Probably? Now THAT'S going too far.

But you have somebody who's been here 20, 25 years, they've been obeying the law, they've been paying taxes, they're married, they've got three kids, two grandkids, they're a member of your church, I think the local community's going to say - not give them citizenship, that would be wrong, but we need to find a path to enable them to be engaged legally in working and living in America within a framework that does not jump over everybody else who has been waiting, but that does recognize that that person has real ties here, and that there be a greater human cost to tearing them out of the fabric of a society in which they've invested 20 or 25 years.

You already know what I said about this part.

I think we need local boards that apply a human approach to trying to deal with this with some sympathy,

Ah. So on top of being inhumane, we're unsympathetic. Thank you for pointing that out. Newt in '12! Newt in '12! Newt in '12!

but that's also very tough with criminals and very tough with people that have no ties to the U.S. and should go back home immediately.

Oh, good. Glad to see you're all for being tough on criminals. One question, though, Commodore. What is the difference between someone who engages in illegal activity such as crossing a border without authorization and a criminal? Take your time. I know this is a tricky question.

There. I read the whole thing. Satisfied?

Now I have a question for you and Newt. What is so humane, what is so sympathetic, what is so loving about encouraging and enticing people to come here illegally and thereby virtually guaranteeing they will live their entire lives here in the shadows? What is so compassionate about deceiving people into giving their life's savings to a human trafficker who leave them to die in the desert at the first sign of trouble or who lure desperate young girls into a life of drugs and prostitution?

WE are not the problem, Mr. Speaker. Self-serving, self-aggrandizing, self-righteous ambitious polluticians like yourself who make excuses or otherwise look the other way while others sell humans into lifetimes of servitude and then point the blame at others who have no other power than that of the pen are the problem.

Other than that, you're a great guy.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 8:33:34 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

“I know this is a tricky question. There. I read the whole thing. Satisfied? Now I have a question for you and Newt. What is so humane, what is so sympathetic, what is so loving about encouraging and enticing people to come here illegally and thereby virtually guaranteeing they will live their entire lives here in the shadows?”

He’s talking about people who have already been here, not that are new. What part of this don’t you understand?

You’ve got your mind made up, so there is no use talking about it. Just keep railing about the what ifs and the maybes and the things that aren’t being said. You are deaf to it all, I get it, you know that we’re screwed and that everyone’s lying and no one gives a shit. That’ll prep you for the next four years of Obama.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 9:05:36 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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