Posted on 11/23/2011 7:34:31 AM PST by heiss
Missed the debate because of wrestling practice, but it’s hardly surprising that Newt would support amnesty for illegal aliens. After the Pelosi global-warming ad and Dede Scozzafava and “right-wing social engineering,” is it any surprise he’d adopt the left’s line on immigration too? He earned a career grade of D from Numbers USA (they calculate back to 1989). Heck, even Barbara Boxer has a career grade of D+.
.. So the Gingrich Amnesty would cover illegal immigrants here when Congress passed IRCA. That is to say, it would pick up where the previous amnesty left off, legalizing precisely those people who didn’t qualify for IRCA. This just underlines what a chump you have to be to support any deal offered you by amnesty supporters.
Which is why “enforcement first” is the only way to go: consistent, unapologetic, across-the-board enforcement of the immigration law at our consulates overseas for visa applicants, at the borders, and inside the country, especially at the worksite — without preconditions or deals or grand bargains.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Newt is slipping. I bet that he will slip on some other issues like Obamacare or Global Warming if pressed hard enough.
Newt loves big government, I bet he supports the HHS unit, as long as it applies to non politicians.
I’ve seen a number of comments on FR this morning supporting the Newt position.
Too bad your bias is so deep you can’t pay attention to the details of his plan.
Even Laura Ingraham assigns motives and consequences that Newt is NOT promoting.
Arm waiving isn’t going solve anything.
A solution must be workable and not encourage continuing floods of illegals.
That is the case with Newt’s plan.
Oh, he gets it, all right.
It's President Tancredo, President Hunter, and Senator Hayworth that don't get it.
Doesn't sound like you get it, either.
I thought it was kind of funny that he said we can’t compromise with the left because they don’t compromise with us only to turn around and say we need to compromise on illegal immigration.
“I’ve seen a number of comments on FR this morning supporting the Newt position.”
You mean FR has sizable pro-illegal faction? Wow. What next, pro-abortion minded freepers?
I’m having a 2008 flashback....
The deportation/forced emmigration of 12 million people would be the largest migration in human history. Not going to happen.
Climate change nut and amnesty.
Talks just like a lefty even after falling over himself earlier.
Still voting for Bachman whether she is candidate or not.
not me. I just want a good , old-fashion minefield like the one we put on the S.Korea border.
When Mitt Romney is to the right of your "Conservative" candidate on a major issue like immigration, you have a problem.
Ah, give me that American “can’t do it” attitude.
I have seen a number of posts on Twitter supporting Newt’s immigration policy as well. Some are even Cain fans. Illegal immigration is a serious problem and our approach can’t be all or nothing, because we end up with nothing.It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
I suppose one should not be surprised you came to that conclusion, since you missed the debate. But if you're interested in making conclusions based on information, here's what he said:
“I did vote for the Simpson-Mazzoli Act. Ronald Reagan, in his diary, says he signed it – and we were supposed to have 300,000 people get amnesty. There were 3m. But he signed it because we were going to get two things in return. We were going to get control of the border and we were going to get a guest worker program with employer enforcement.
“We got neither. So I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with controlling the border, as the governor said. I believe ultimately you have to find some system – once you’ve put every piece in place, which includes the guest worker program, you need something like a World War II Selective Service Board that, frankly, reviews the people who are here.”
“If you’re here – if you’ve come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home. period. If you’ve been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you’ve been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don’t think we’re going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out.”
“The Krieble Foundation is a very good red card program that says you get to be legal, but you don’t get a pass to citizenship. And so there’s a way to ultimately end up with a country where there’s no more illegality, but you haven’t automatically given amnesty to anyone.”
“I do suggest if you go back to your district, and you find people who have been here 25 years and have two generations of family and have been paying taxes and are in a local church, as somebody who believes strongly in family, you’ll have a hard time explaining why that particular subset is being broken up and forced to leave, given the fact that they’ve been law-abiding citizens for 25 years.”
“I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people who have been here a quarter century, who have children and grandchildren, who are members of the community, who may have done something 25 years ago, separate them from their families, and expel them.”
“I do believe if you’ve been here recently and have no ties to the US, we should deport you. I do believe we should control the border. I do believe we should have very severe penalties for employers, but I would urge all of you to look at the Krieble Foundation Plan.”
“I don’t see how the party that says it’s the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families that have been here a quarter century. And I’m prepared to take the heat for saying, let’s be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship but by finding a way to create legality so that they are not separated from their families.”
People need to pay attention to details....Newt is not saying they should be given citizenship.
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