Posted on 11/23/2011 8:20:55 AM PST by Impala64ssa
WEST TRENTON, NJ – On the day the Delaware River Basin Commission had planned a special meeting to vote on whether or not to allow hydraulic fracturing to mine natural gas in the river watershed, environmental group leaders held a “Don’t Drill the Delaware” rally outside what was to be the meeting venue in West Trenton, New Jersey.
The meeting was abruptly postponed last week with the DRBC only saying it needed more time to consider the issues. No new date has been set.
Environmentalists believe it was because Delaware Governor Markell said his state wouldn’t vote for it and the commission was not sure if it had enough votes for approval.
“I applaud Governor Markell for admitting that there is no science to justify opening up one of North America’s important river basins to industrialization and greed,” said actor Mark Ruffalo, a resident of Sullivan County. “Now the rest of the commission will hear us, the people who speak for this beautiful river not for short term profits.”
“The DRBC has postponed a vote but they still haven’t asked for an EIS which is the law under the National Environmental Policy Act,” said Wes Gillingham, program director and Catskill Mountainkeeper.
Kate Hudson, Riverkeeper Watershed program director, said the fight to protect the Delaware Basin watershed from fracking is “far from over.” But, she said the rally “demonstrates that we are committed to continuing the fight.” Hudson said they intent to “leverage the momentum of this victory to apply pressure on Governor Cuomo and DEC Commissioner Martens to heed their own advice and take the time to get it right in New York, as their fracking plan is in no better shape than the DRBC’s.”
Funny. These bastards have no problem with trashing and polluting downtown parks. But then, that’s for the cause.
I’ll trade one letter to my congressman in support of drilling there for one letter to a congressman there in support for overturning the Great lakes Directional drilling ban.
Some day rank and file citizens will wake up to the fact that liberal policies and environmental lunatics are largely responsible for them living hand to mouth.
Leave it to northeast liberal idiots like these fools to stop high paying jobs and energy sources that will lessen our reliance on foreign sources of energy.
Dude, I’m not an environmentalist or global warming freak by any measure, but I’ve a good understanding of what fracking is all about and it’s pretty fricken scary. We should be very leery, very slow, and keep a careful watch on the many unintended consequences that are not only possible, but quite probable.
Amen to that.
Read post #5. Also, thackney has a good deal of knowledge on the subject.
I doubt the truthfulness of both claims.
We should be very leery, very slow,...
We have six decades of experience around largely populated areas like the Dallas/Fort Worth Barrett Shale and others. Nearly 90% of ALL oil/gas wells (not just shale) today are hydraulic fractured during their production life. Just how many decades and how many millions of wells do you this technology demonstrated before you would accept it?
From June, 2009
In five years, if fracturing were eliminated, there would be a decrease of nearly 79% in wells completed. As a result, the country would experience by 2014, a 17% reduction in oil production and a 45% reduction in natural gas production, relative to the reference case, with declines continuing during the forecast period resulting in a 23% reduction in oil production and a 57% decrease in gas production from the reference case by 2018. Due to the country’s increasing reliance on unconventional resources, where over 95% of wells are routinely treated using fracturing, the impact on production would be permanent and severe.
Hydraulic Fracturing is not used only for production from shale.
I don’t know where you’re getting your facts, but I’ve done a bit of research that leads me the opposite conclusion—
Have a go at this:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4275
Hydraulic Fracturing is sometimes used on water wells and geothermal wells.
The EPA has used it for a remediation tool at some superfund sites.
http://www.energyindepth.org/just-the-facts/
I agree 100%!
But you will be hammered here. FR walks lock step with MOST anti-environment points of view. I know personally, and I’ve been on here a long time! :)
NO FRACKING for natural gas- they can get to it without fracking, and it’s not necessary.
FRACKERS: don’t bother flaming me, I’ve heard it all before!
;)
After the AGW hoax has been exposed over and over and over again ad infinitum, it seems like they would rather keep a low profile. Especially on the heels of Climategate 2 coming out.
You may keep hearing it, but you have yet to learn from it. Hydraulic Fracturing is VERY common and used extensively on most wells, not just the new shale gas wells.
From June, 2009
In five years, if fracturing were eliminated, there would be a decrease of nearly 79% in wells completed. As a result, the country would experience by 2014, a 17% reduction in oil production and a 45% reduction in natural gas production, relative to the reference case, with declines continuing during the forecast period resulting in a 23% reduction in oil production and a 57% decrease in gas production from the reference case by 2018. Due to the country’s increasing reliance on unconventional resources, where over 95% of wells are routinely treated using fracturing, the impact on production would be permanent and severe.
You know, it's so much better to have 100,000 American citizens live in poverty that to have the spotted auk have to move its nesting grounds a quarter of a mile.
And you wouldn't want new Yorkers to have to move because the coastline raises a quarter of an inch and they'd lose their beachfront property-—just in case the AGW scam is real. Better to destroy civilization based on bogus science so that the government has total control over your life and Al Gore can become the first trillion with his cut of the carbon credit cartel.
Ewwww! Scary!
Tips for the anti-fracking crowd:
Men in Black is not a documentary. Michael Moore's movies are not really documentaries. Al Gore's Inconvenient “truth” is not a documentary, and sometimes the Leftist mainstream news media has a “slight” bias when it comes to the facts and/or science.
So brush off your naivete, throw it away and learn some science so the snake oil salesmen can't pull the wool over your eyes again and again.
As Lincoln said: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. The exception that proves the rule is that you CAN fool all of the Leftists all of the time because they want to be fooled.”
That’s not the same fracking being talked about, and if you’ve been in it for 60 years you dmna well better know it or you know nothing. Come clean and tell the folks that what you’re talking about is residual hydraulic mining from when a known well or pocket of gas goes dry or becomes hard to pump.
This fracking is to discover and unleash untapped sources that lay beneath the shale and bedrock layers that at times lay beneath fresh water pockets, but more often than not, they [the mining op] know next to nothing about the underground environment until they do frack, and often enough that it *should* be a concern for all — contaminate aquifers and surface water. Permanent changes too as they’ve altered the natural filtration that took eons to build up from sediments (I.E shale).
Yes it is.
Come clean and tell the folks that what you’re talking about is residual hydraulic mining from when a known well or pocket of gas goes dry or becomes hard to pump.
That is the exact same process for the same reason, although it won't help if it has "gone dry". Today, nearly nine out of 10 onshore wells – natural gas and oil – require fracture stimulation to remain or become viable.
This fracking is to discover
Hydraulic fracturing is not part of exploration, it is part of a well completion, after they have found a reservoir to develop.
and unleash untapped sources
Every well drilled is to tap a resource area not producing. Multiple wells are drilled into the same field to produce different parts of that field.
bedrock layers
If it was bedrock, it would be igneous rock, nonporous and not capable of containing gas or oil, which only exists in sedimentary rock.
that at times lay beneath fresh water pockets
Almost all oil and gas fields contain water. But no water at this depth is fresh, it is salty, brine water.
they’ve altered the natural filtration that took eons to build up from sediments
Again, this is far below and unaffecting of the drinking water supply. If it was connected to them, the natural gas wouldn't exist at that depth. It would have already seeped out.
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