The first mistake that many of the anti-immigrant hot-heads on this forum make is to conflate several different issues into one. Some illegals are violent criminals and/or drug dealers. No question about what should happen to them. Some are welfare queens of one description or another, and some of them also vote illegally, enticed, encouraged and enabled by those who make a living gain political power through expanding the social welfare system. These are not felons, but are an economic drag on the country. Cut them off and toss them out is ok. Then there is a large class who actually turn in honest work doing jobs Americans won't do or cannot do, pay taxes, and pay their own way through life. I would guess that this class is at least 1/3 of illegals and probably more. I really don't think there is any justice in trying to toss these folks out. Maybe you tell them that they never get citizenship, but they can have permanent legal residence so long as they remain law abiding productive citizens.
But the notion that we are just going to round up and toss out 30 Million folks is a fantasy, and not a very Christian fantasy at that.
The first mistake that many of the anti-immigrant hot-heads on this forum make is to conflate several different issues into one.
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Oh I dunno
I think their altimate goal has always been AMNESTY fore their illegall aliens...
We Pro-immigration FReepers far outnumber the group which seems to concern you...
I wouldnt worry...
We’ve been getting the word out for years in thesae threadfs about the dangers that illegal aliens present to the citizens and economy of the US...
People are listening...
even if it takes losing spomeone they know to dewath on the roads or murder or rapes or robbery by illegal aliens ti get their attention...
It’s only the as you say “hotheads” like Romney who want the illegal aliens to stay because it benefitsa them financially and/or politically who refuse to accept that ALL of the illegal aliens and their anchor offspring MUST leave the US...
The rest of us know that the rule of law in this country MUST prevail...
our sovereign borders must be protected from invaders up to no good...
You are smart enough to know that most illegal aliens will self-deport if cut off from jobs via e-verify& employer sanctions and cut off from welfare via stricter verification. Do all that. Lock down the Mexico border with 10,000 military and a fence. Have a guest worker plan for agriculture only and you have a plan
So as far as rounding them up and tossing them out.....there are much easier ways but you already knew that. Oh .....we can also offer them free plane rides home including their anchor babies too if they elect to GTFO and self-deport
You can get rid of 60-75% of illegal aliens this way. The rest we toss out
Excellent and true. If we want to be branded cruel and heartless then we stay with the hard line antics. Otherwise, thoughtful analysis, like yours, shows that we need a immigration surgery, not butchery.
Well done and Happy Thanksgiving.
{Then there is a large class who actually turn in honest work doing jobs Americans won’t do or cannot do, pay taxes, and pay their own way through life. }
By definition, they must also be driving illegally, have various levels of fake ID, and are magnets and enablers for other illegals.
So no, there really aren’t that many that are truly living honestly.
No, that's not really a fantasy, but the number one straw man the pro-amnesty for illegals advocates constantly throw up to defend their pandering position.
Enforce the law, especially at the employer level, and begin improving border security (SECOND), and illegals will begin to self-deport.