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'Green' Debacle: Tens of Thousands of Abandoned Wind Turbines Now Litter America's Landscape
Natural News ^ | November 24th, 2011 | Jonathan Benson, staff writer Naturral News

Posted on 11/24/2011 10:21:06 AM PST by LRoggy

(NaturalNews) Literal beacons of the "green" energy movement, giant wind turbines have been one of the renewable energy sources of choice for the US government, which has spent billions of taxpayer dollars subsidizing their construction and use across the country. But high maintenance costs, high rates of failure, and fluctuating weather conditions that affect energy production render wind turbines expensive and inefficient, which is why more than 14,000 of them have since been abandoned.

Before government subsidies for the giant metals were cut or eliminated in many areas, wind farms were an energy boom business. But in the post-tax subsidy era, the costs of maintaining and operating wind turbines far outweighs the minimal power they generate in many areas, which has left a patchwork of wind turbine graveyards in many of the most popular wind farming areas of the US.

"Thousands of abandoned wind turbines littered the landscape of wind energy's California 'big three' locations which include Altamont Pass, Tehachapin and San Gorgonio, considered among the world's best wind sites," writes Andrew Walden of the American Thinker. "In the best wind spots on earth, over 14,000 turbines were simply abandoned. Spinning, post-industrial junk which generates nothing but bird kills."

Walden speaks, of course, about the birds, bats, and other air creatures that routinely get tangled in and killed by wind turbine propellers. And as far as the "post-industrial junk" language, well, if it costs too much to run the machines in the first place, then it definitely costs too much to uproot and remove them post-construction.

This whole wind energy mess just further illustrates how the American people have been played by their elected officials who bought into the "global warming" hysteria that spawned the push for wind energy in the first place. And now that the renewable energy tax subsidies are gradually coming to an end in some places, the true financial and economic viability, or lack of wind energy, is on display for the world to see.

"It is all about the tax subsidies," writes Don Surber of the Charleston Daily Mail. "The blades churn until the money runs out. If an honest history is written about the turn of the 21st century, it will include a large, harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: agw; bhoenergy; boondoggle; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; green; greenenergy; greens; miserablefailure; windenergy
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Unbelievable story, one that somehow you won't hear about on the MSM nightly news . . .
1 posted on 11/24/2011 10:21:10 AM PST by LRoggy
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To: LRoggy

Time to give a few hundred billion dollars as grants to Al Gore’s companies so that they can save the world by dismantling these windmills and disposing them in a safe manner.


2 posted on 11/24/2011 10:22:56 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: LRoggy

“overplayed for profit by corporations.”

Gee it’s sure nice to see that blame can be placed on evil capitalists!!!


3 posted on 11/24/2011 10:25:09 AM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: LRoggy

Good story, but Don Surber of the Charleston Daily Mail is a blithering idiot when he says “...fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations.” It was false fears stoked by the government-adademe cabal, commies who want to restrict your free choices and control your life, and a government full of progs only too happy to use our tax money to further their arcadian dream of carbon-free energy. Corporations were generally the last to get on board with this game when it finally became evident this horrific scheme was not going away and there were huge profits to be made at the expense of taxpayers.


4 posted on 11/24/2011 10:26:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LRoggy
Do you all remember what it was that the animals in "Animal Farm" were ordered to build by the pig leaders?

It was a windmill.

Just sayin'.


Text of Orwell's "Animal Farm", Chapter V

5 posted on 11/24/2011 10:27:06 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: LRoggy
14,000 of them have since been abandoned

one would think that the metal scavengers would have dismantled and carted them all away....in broad daylight
6 posted on 11/24/2011 10:27:44 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: JimWayne

Wind turbines can & do work but on the small scale ie homestead scale the giant turbines are AC power which gets fed directly into the power grid the homestead scale turbines are DC that charge batteries that convert DC to AC by the use of a device called an inverter . The problem with homestead scale is that it is the responsibility of the owner to maintain the system also the NIMBY factor .


7 posted on 11/24/2011 10:28:40 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: LRoggy

8 posted on 11/24/2011 10:30:05 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Texas Eagle

You’re right. Good point.


9 posted on 11/24/2011 10:30:16 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It was false fears stoked by the government-adademe cabal

This is not the complete picture. Businesses like Solyndra were part of this cabal too. Many of these businesses were funded by venture capitalists like Kleiner Perkins (Al Gore is a partner) whose aim was to feed off the system. This is what is called crony capitalism. There is no need to pretend that businesses do not join the cabal. We should oppose businesses that hate the free-market and prefer crony capitalism. Merely being businesses do not make them virtuous.

10 posted on 11/24/2011 10:33:24 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: LRoggy
Thank the Watermelons (Environmentalists) [They are Green on the outside and Red on the inside].
11 posted on 11/24/2011 10:35:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: LRoggy

They just broke ground on a 17,000 acre, $400 million dollar windfarm near here.

All union-only jobs to prepare for and build them too.

Some of the best farmland in the country to be dotted with 200 ton slabs of concrete. And in a state that has a huge supply of cheap coal under it.

In 20 years, it’ll be a big business dropping these things like redwoods and scrapping the metals.

I did, however, make a crapload of money doing a bunch of work for a farmer that got a crapload of this money for his numerous land leases to the project.


12 posted on 11/24/2011 10:36:04 AM PST by digger48
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


13 posted on 11/24/2011 10:36:44 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: LRoggy

So what nifty thing can we make out of really big windmill pieces?

They could make some component of cool architecture. The blades would make cool swooping portico roofs.


14 posted on 11/24/2011 10:42:42 AM PST by lurk
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To: LRoggy

When I first saw these things, my experience as a millwright and subsequently a designer and engineer of large scale processing plants, I said immediately that the issue of maintenance would far outweigh their capability to generate enough power to pay for itself.

The first farm I saw was the one at the pass outside of Palm Springs on my way back to Florida from one of the last races at Riverside.

Always execute the straight face test first.


15 posted on 11/24/2011 10:42:49 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: LRoggy
I have been driving by a rather large wind turbine almost everyday for four years and have only observed it actually running (collecting?) only a handful of times. Three days ago it was doing it's thing, first time in maybe 18 months.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people like me that like this technology but we don't want it forced on us. Let the private sector figure it out. If it is truly viable, it will catch on and the entry price point will drop the more people voluntarily begin to use it.

16 posted on 11/24/2011 10:43:26 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: JimWayne

What is needed next is a new investigation of all the companies, past and present who received government grant funding and then coordinate that with congress critters who also invested in these companies beforehand.


17 posted on 11/24/2011 10:47:36 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: digger48

Recently driving down to Milwaukee from Fond du Lac ran into a bunch of these wind turbines dotting the farmlands. Very ugly on the skyline.


18 posted on 11/24/2011 10:49:02 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: LRoggy

“harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations.””

Once again its the evil corporations. /s

I’d imagine those evil bastards wouldn’t have done this without the envirwhacko’s and their political influence and bribes.


19 posted on 11/24/2011 10:49:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LRoggy
GEWINDFARM
20 posted on 11/24/2011 10:50:47 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: LRoggy

Like every other program the leftist aka progressive treehuggers have forced on America. Another big screw up.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 10:55:38 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: stylin19a

“And as far as the “post-industrial junk” language, well, if it costs too much to run the machines in the first place, then it definitely costs too much to uproot and remove them post-construction.”

Having been raised by a father who owned a couple of scrap yards, I can assure you that if those windmills are metal, and if clear title to them can be had, they will be scrapped.


22 posted on 11/24/2011 10:55:38 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Michael Barnes

Agreed. Every technology has its sweet spot and the smaller units have lots of promise for providing power in remote and mobile applications like sailboats.

The same applies for solar. Solar panels have a shelf life and again, the cost of replacing those panels in the large acreage panel farms will suffer the same result.

One of my projects was to take an outdoor vending device and redesign it so it used a solar panel to recharge the internal battery that actually was the power storage for the system so it could be installed anywhere like golf courses, boat docks, beaches, lakes and water parks. This is where solar shines but large scale AC power generation over a long period of time is not economically feasible when the shelf life of the panels is just under the ability to pay for them from the savings over fossil fuels.


23 posted on 11/24/2011 10:57:03 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: SandRat

Watermellons is an excellent term for them.


24 posted on 11/24/2011 11:01:43 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: LRoggy
"The blades churn until the money runs out. If an honest history is written about the turn of the 21st century, it will include a large, harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations."

You won't hear any OWS moron complain about this particular corporate welfare.

25 posted on 11/24/2011 11:02:05 AM PST by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: LRoggy

Idols for their cult.

Happy Thanksgiving


26 posted on 11/24/2011 11:03:46 AM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: JimWayne
Time to give a few hundred billion dollars as grants to Al Gore’s companies so that they can save the world by dismantling these windmills and disposing them in a safe manner.

National Guard engineer units across the country could probably use the practice blowing things up (actually controlled demolitions). Let the scrappers at the rest, they will clean most of it up.

27 posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:09 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: LRoggy

28 posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:10 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: denydenydeny
Course not. Cuz they've been drinking this:


29 posted on 11/24/2011 11:05:37 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: mazda77
I know someone who does maintenance on these things. When they have to replace parts they are required to build a road to the wind turbine first (for the cranes). After the maintenance they must demolish the road and replace the sod.

All so that it all looks like nice and "green" when they take pictures of it.

30 posted on 11/24/2011 11:07:07 AM PST by The Duke
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To: JimWayne

I partially agree with you — corporations and VCs ARE culpable here. But they would have pursued none of this if it weren’t for the gross market distortions caused by government spending our tax money with wild abandon and crooked academics. Government and the academy set the table. The corporations and VCs simply sat down for the prepared feast.


31 posted on 11/24/2011 11:09:02 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DMG2FUN

“Like every other program the leftist aka progressive treehuggers have forced on America. Another big screw up”.........just like sister ethanol


32 posted on 11/24/2011 11:11:03 AM PST by stickywillie (ALE)
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To: Michael Barnes
Believe it or not, there are a lot of people like me that like this technology but we don't want it forced on us. Let the private sector figure it out. If it is truly viable, it will catch on and the entry price point will drop the more people voluntarily begin to use it.

It isn't a case of not liking the technology. I think it is a great idea...Idea.

The problem comes in when the idea has to work, and that is the R&D aspect which should have been done long before going to production level implementation.

Like electric cars, the research isn't done yet, at least not for something which can compete in any but niche markets, and until it is, trying to take the idea to mass production will be an expensive lesson in premature implementation.

Sadly, those expenses were not left to the private sector, but are fuelled by our tax dollars, present, past, and future. Had the private sector been wholly responsible there may have been far greater accountability and far, far, less waste.

33 posted on 11/24/2011 11:12:34 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: LRoggy

“...it will include a large, harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations.”

Individuals are involved as well....

Fisker Automotive, a startup that plans to start selling a plug-in hybrid (sticker price $87,900) this year, received a $529 million loan from the U.S. government..

“...the $300 million federal subsidy to Tesla Motors -founded by Elon Musk.to produce electric cars

Produce a sexy enough con...and the Feds will beat a path to your door to give you money in the name of feeling good about doing so...and of course a hefty return to their “campaign finance fund”-which BTW if they “fail” to use...may be kept personally.

This is a scam. All a scam.


34 posted on 11/24/2011 11:14:33 AM PST by mo
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To: JimWayne

Notice how PETA nor the environmentalists never got involved with the bird kills?

That’s all that needs to be said about the Marxist movement.


35 posted on 11/24/2011 11:26:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: LRoggy
The green killer: Scores of protected golden eagles dying after colliding with wind turbines
36 posted on 11/24/2011 11:29:07 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: lurk

You’re gonna need a bigger porch!


37 posted on 11/24/2011 11:32:24 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: JimSEA
“overplayed for profit by corporations.”

The corporations were only the legal entities that was used by corrupt politicians, fake scientists, dishonest financiers to defraud the taxpayers out of billions of dollars.
It doesn't really matter who corrupted who. The fact is that it is the power of government that incites the corruption.

38 posted on 11/24/2011 11:34:46 AM PST by oldbrowser (There is a shakeup coming to Washington, one way or another.)
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To: LRoggy

I knew this was going to happen.

All this physical stuff requires maintenance, repair, periodic replacement of parts.

On top of not paying for itself, having to use power when there is not enough wind, to having to be shut down when it’s too windy. Brake failures that cause them to blow up.

Sad thing is that it was totally deliberate. Wasting taxpayer money on the worst forms of energy out there, that also cost the most to gather. Incredibly high cost for very low energy return. Instead of sinking it into better coal plants, or new safer almost impossible meltdown nuclear plant designs (pebble bed reactors).

Plus on top of it they make a lot of noise and the shadow issue is huge for people who live close to them, and they’ve been killing birds and bats like nuts.

It’s on purpose. To waste our money on stuff that costs a ton of money that we’ll not get any use out of. So we’ll be even more dependent on foreign sources. And also to burn the money away so it’s not spent on real energy solutions that do work, like better coal and nuclear plants.

Totally deliberate. Totally.


39 posted on 11/24/2011 11:40:25 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lurk

Big swords to slice the heads off of swaths of people who won’t convert to the false god allah.


40 posted on 11/24/2011 11:42:32 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lonevoice

ping


41 posted on 11/24/2011 12:00:33 PM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: LRoggy
"If an honest history is written about the turn of the 21st century, it will include a large, harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporationsLeftist, Marxist, Politicians." pandering to Leftist Corporate opportunists. The politicians made this green crap opportunity for taxpayer pillage by salivating Leftist contributers whom are all sitting back with wads of cash in their pockets today at the expense of the taxpayers, and the environment as bats, and birds, and the American landscape continue to suffer the loss of what was. WE been ripped off.
42 posted on 11/24/2011 12:15:03 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Good story, but Don Surber of the Charleston Daily Mail is a blithering idiot when he says “...fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations.”

He's closer than you are. It has been the charitable foundations of the major energy company stockholders funding the green groups that have promoted green racketeering.

43 posted on 11/24/2011 12:21:03 PM PST by Carry_Okie (In the GOP, desperation is the mother of convention.)
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To: Pride in the USA
Thanks for the ping. From the article linked in #36...

California's attempts to switch to green energy have inadvertently put the survival of the state’s golden eagles at risk.

Scores of the protected birds have been dying each year after colliding with the blades of about 5,000 wind turbines…the number of newborn golden eagles may not be able to keep pace with the number of turbine fatalities.

Another recovering species, the California Condor, is also said to be at risk from the giant blades.

‘We taxpayers have spent millions of dollars saving the California condor from extinction,’ Gary George, spokesman for Audubon California, told the Times.

Gadz, I hate these ignorant greenie communists.

44 posted on 11/24/2011 12:23:18 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Ping for hilarious pictures


45 posted on 11/24/2011 12:29:28 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Tailback

For some reason I’m thinking that you didn’t mean to ping me...


46 posted on 11/24/2011 12:33:00 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The crony capitalists were not unwilling participants. Many times, they advised the government on what technology to subsidize and invested in those technologies. Believe me, just as there are supporters of the free-markets and there are supporters of socialism, there are quite a few crony capitalists as well out there. By any yardstick, George Soros cannot be considered to be part of either the government or the academia even though he wields immense clout with various governments. People like him are part of the group known as cronies in the crony capitalist setup.


47 posted on 11/24/2011 12:35:34 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: Texas Eagle

I had forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder!


48 posted on 11/24/2011 1:03:59 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: LRoggy

JT Council Addresses CM Energies Criminal Investigation

October 20, 2011

In a specially called meeting this morning, the Jonestown City Council addressed a single agenda item: a $2 million wind energy grant that is the focus of an ongoing criminal investigation.

After convening at 9 a.m., the council went almost immediately into executive session to, according to the agenda, consult with the city attorney concerning a grant application involving CM Energies, the city of Jonestown and $2 million in federal funds. Based on legal considerations, the executive session was not attended by either Mayor Deane Armstrong or Alderman Lance Wedell.

After an hour and a half, Mayor Armstrong called the meeting back into public session. Alderman Bill Nichols then read a statement, prefacing it with a comment that, due to the ongoing criminal investigation, no further remarks would be made today by the council.

Nichols’ statement was as follows: “The city will continue to fully cooperate with federal, state and county investigators on all points associated with this issue. The Council will initiate an internal review of the administration of this grant. There will be a discussion item on the agenda for the next regular meeting of the City Council. The Council will also address employee comments and actions at the appropriate time, when all information is available to the Council.”

http://northshorebeacon.com/jt-council-addresses-cm-energies-criminal-investigation-p196-89.htm


49 posted on 11/24/2011 1:07:31 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: stylin19a

Funny you mentioned the idea of salvage. The first thing one has to disassemble is the blade unit. The blades are all fiberglass and totally worthless as scrap. Disposing of those huge junk chunks will be impressively expensive not to mention the cost of the crane to get them down in one piece (blowing them loose is out of the question). The gearbox and generator unit might have some value if it was on the ground already but blowing the tower would eliminate any value except scrap.-————I wrote about this years ago saying that if you think we’re dependent on oil now just wait until we might be dependent on windmills. Currently we use a supertanker load of oil/year to make the blade material for windmills. It takes a second tanker load to process the first load. The blades don’t really last very long so the process must be continuous just to keep the current stuff running.————The only reasonable way windpower can ever be industrially reliable is if the energy can be stored at the time the wind blows then metered as needed. My favorite way to do this is to pump water out of a river uphill to a reservoir then generate hydropower as needed by giving the water back to the river——doesn’t lose fish, doesn’t lose water, doesn’t lose wind——but is way too much to expect from the democommiegreenweenies. Apologies if I’ve left anyone out.


50 posted on 11/24/2011 1:21:00 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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