[Cronos]

Hardly -- the distrust if not downright hatred of the Germans in the rest of europe, whether IN the EU or not is palpable.

if they really "took europe" then how come Germans are working longer while the rest of the eurozone relaxes on German money? the Germans have tried to subsume their nationalism in a kind of European nationalism and its failing IN Germany where people don't want to work until 67 to let others retire at 50

[org.whodat]

LOL, the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rule.