GOP Smackdown: Gingrich v. Romney (Who of the two will govern more conservatively?)

National Review ^ | 11/23/2011 | Jonah Goldberg

[federal__reserve]

Just some of Newt's inconvenient Facts: (MSM knows much more)

“Criticized Paul Ryan's plan saying social engineering from the right is bad”
“Era of Ronald Reagan is over!”
“We are not going to deport 11 million people”

For healthcare mandates before he is against it!
For man made global warming before he is against it!
Newt was actually FOR Cap & Trade!!
Partnering with Al Sharpton on Obama’s education reform.
Partnered with Hillary Clinton to advocate health-care IT legislation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwVp0cwOMA individual mandates http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154 climate change


Newt voted to create the Department of Education.
Newt voted for the Amnesty.
Newt voted to lock up 65 million acres of Alaskan wilderness.
Newt voted to give China Most favored Nation status.
Newt pushed the liberal Scozzafazza in NY23( a GOP district) when there was a perfectly good conservative running in the race.
Newt is for the Individual Mandate where Health Insurance is concerned.
Newt is for a limited Amnesty.
Depending on the day of the week, Newt believes Global Warming is real.
We need a conservative, not a moderate globalist.
Gingrich Received Over $300K for Work for an Ethanol Lobbying Group

[BillyBoy]

>> Romney and Gingrich are both RINO’s at heart, and will be indistinguishable if elected president. <<

True, though I would rank Gingrich ever lower than Romney (I know I'm in the minority in FR), simply because Newt won't have a chance to govern at all. The number of Americans who have an unfavorable view of him is sky high (especially with independents) and we virtually gurantee a second Obama term if he the nominee. Not to mention Romney looks like a saint (no pun intended) when you compare his "personal life" to Newt's.

[Brilliant]

Gingrich.

[federal__reserve]

I have to agree!!!

[bmwcyle]

Both are go alone to get alone men.

[BillyBoy]

>> There is no question that Gingrich is and would govern as a conservative <<

I question that. Newt may have once been a Reagan Republican and rising GOP star in the '80's, but today's Newt has been bought and paid for, and has been hanging out with liberals and promoting their garbage for at least a decade.

>> Romney is merely an opportunist with no real convictions <<

So is Newt. I say this as someone who met Newt face-to-face and shook his hand four years ago when he had a tent set up and was hawking his books. Newt was only interested in getting $$$ from gullible conservatives and forced everyone to pay for a quick photo-op and wouldn't allow anyone to shake his hand unless you signed for his "American Solutions" newsletter. It was a grassroots event, not a fundraiser, and he was a non-candidate and retired politician at the time. Every other big-name politician that day was more than happy to meet voters for free and get to know their concerns. Not Newt.

[lurk]

Isn’t the headline question a lot like asking who is more attractive, Helen Thomas or Betty Friedan?

[hinckley buzzard]

Gingrich has since retracted and modified his stance on the Ryan plan. And he’s called his pairing with Pelosi one of the stupidest things he’s ever done

Good enough for me. I can accept someone making a premature judgment if he's willing to reconsider and admit, "hey I goofed."

The people who make other people die are the ones who rigidly refuse to admit new information into their beetlebrowed world view, and sail full steam ahead into the iceberg that they could have avoided if they hadn't been too arrogant to admit they ought to reconsider their course as conditions change

[hinckley buzzard]

It's way too late, but hey-- whatever floats your boat.

[hinckley buzzard]

Jonah Goldberg is one of those boy wonders that has never done anything on his own in his entire life, but got a writing job through his mother's influence, and has never looked back.

He is an adequate wordsmith but he doesn't know anything the rest of us haven't known for years.

Plus I am skeptical of any boy who's hair is longer than his mother's. Makes me wonder what kind of envy he has.

[Antoninus]

I could vote for Newt and feel pretty good about it.

Anyone who votes for Romney is either not conservative or criminally ignorant.

[hinckley buzzard]

Not to mention Romney looks like a saint (no pun intended) when you compare his "personal life" to Newt's.

Hah. Even here on FR we have a cadre of Romney haters who will gladly write the ads for the democrats, ridiculing Romney for his religion and his "animal abuse." If everything I have heard spewed here about Romney's religious beliefs were true, I would take an "adulterer" over him any day.

Either way. I will vote for daffy duck if he runs against obama.

[Antoninus]

This article is a pathetic attempt to push Romney. Jonah Goldber should be asamed of himself.

Absolutely correct. National Review is part of the problem. They are lackeys for the GOP establishment liberals.

[Antoninus]

I’m voting for Cain in the primary (if he’s still standing), and will support Newt if he’s the nominee. Will not vote for Mitt even if he is the nominee. Unlike Mitt, either Cain or Newt can rally the conservative base to exitement levels that will allow a sweep of the congress. I’m hoping they team up.

You and I see things exactly the same. Ditto 100%.

[truthfreedom]

Newt and Cain have already teamed up. They have their own debated.

Newt and Cain are the McCain and Thompson of 2012.

[elpadre]

Gingrich is not a proven leader by any stretch of the imagination. Even when elected Speaker, his management skills were naught.

[Bigg Red]

...matchup between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney....

&&&
Uh..NO and NO!

[lonevoice]

Isn’t the headline question a lot like asking who is more attractive, Helen Thomas or Betty Friedan?

That is the perfect rejoinder to an utterly ridiculous headline question.

Which of the two liberals would govern more conservatively? Bah! If this is what we're left to choose from, the biggest loser is conservatism.

[trebb]

Newt has been a movement conservative. He would tear the executive establishment asunder. Mitt would buy them all new staplers.

Yep - Newt understands consrvatism where Mitt understands the importance of looking conservative. No contest that Newt will govern far more conservatively than Mitt. Of course, ALL the rest of the field will do so. I'm hoping Caim comes out above Newt, but will not have to agonize over my vote if Newt is last man standing. I think he's genuinely teachable and we might be able to exert some positive pressure on some of the hot button issues.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The northeast country club Republicans are not happy with Gingrich. He is a southerner with a proven conservative record as Speaker.

Actually N. Leroy is from the Northeast. He is what they call in the South a carpetbagger. But he never did leave his Northeastern liberal statism behind.