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The one inequality infographic no one on the Left wants to see
The Telegraph ^ | Ed West

Posted on 11/26/2011 8:07:39 AM PST by ventanax5

The folks at Liberal Conspiracy have asked people to put together “info-graphics and bits of information about inequality”, so I thought I’d help out a bit with this neat little graph (the little blue dots represent American states). Citing New Economics Foundation, Resolution Foundation and Joseph Rowntree Foundation, Sunny Hundal points out that:

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conservatives; diversity; economics; equality; gagdadbob; leftists; liberals; multiculturalism; onecosmosblog

1 posted on 11/26/2011 8:07:41 AM PST by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5
It's a puzzle: one dispossessed group after another — blacks, women, Hispanics and gays — has been gradually accepted in the United States, granted equal rights and brought into the mainstream.

At the same time, in economic terms, the United States has gone from being a comparatively egalitarian society to one of the most unequal democracies in the world.

I have read this article several times now and I am coming away with a very uneasy feeling. The gist is contained in the quote above (I think).

This is a classic example of the fallacy post hoc, ergo proper hoc. Or, "after this, therefore because of this."

Simply because "diversity" occurred before or simultaneous to the decline in our economy does not, as the author facilely suggests, mean that diversity is the cause. But no doubt his article will be used by those who are convinced that immigrants are the whole reason we have difficulties in our economy. It is simply not true.

The reason we have growing economic difficulty is because our government class (who like to think of themselves as the ruling class) believe themselves to be, as the leader of the Pilgrims put it, "wiser than God." And therefore, they believe they can impose equality by attempting to "manage" (or do away with) the market economy. It is social/economic engineering and it has NEVER worked.

The Pilgrims originally attempted to set up an idealistic, utopian community. It failed. “The experience that we had in this common course and condition. The experience that we had in this common course and condition tried sundry years…that by taking away property, and bringing community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing — as if they were wiser than God.’

So let's not fall for this little trap. Whatever the drain on our economy brought about by immigrants and illegal immigrants taking advantage of our entitlement system, the real problem is the entitlement system itself (the magnet, as the self-deportation folks would correctly argue) and the continuous 'tinkering' with the market by people who would fit better in the old Soviet state as they try to centrally manage our economic life. When man thinks he is smarter than God, the result is always a Fall—from the first one to the one we are in the midst of today.

2 posted on 11/26/2011 8:36:24 AM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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I can't read the labels of the two axes in the graph, so I have no idea what it's purporting to communicate.

But why is a growing income inequality believed to be a bad thing. It is not caused by the poor getting poorer. In fact the opposite is true. But it is caused by the ceiling on wealth being raised.

Suppose you go apply for a job, starting at say $30K. One employer tells you that job has the potential of going up to $50K if you perform very well.

Another employer has the same job with no ceiling, in fact several employees in that position are making millions. The income disparity is greater at the second employer, and that's the one most people would take.

So it seems to me income inequality is a positive thing.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 8:54:12 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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bttt

"....Again, the left, in order to succeed, must vanquish genuine culture, which is always organic and rooted in transcendent principles that are "before the beginning." Thus, instead of liberty they cherish equality -- which is why, for example, they are obsessed with the idea that some people earn more money than they do.

"Likewise, instead of e pluribus unum -- from many, one -- their value system promotes the balkanizing ethic of "diversity" and multiculturalism: instead of a sober One, an inebriated few too many. ...."

Building 'a Better Future' through Coercion and Trauma

4 posted on 11/26/2011 9:05:16 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: gitmo
So it seems to me income inequality is a positive thing.

I completely agree. Tinkering to eliminate income inequalities only results in killing the goose that laid the golden egg. The y axis (vertical) is "Non-Hispanic White Alone Population Percent. The y axis (horizontal) is the "Gini coefficient." As I understand it the Gini coefficient is a measure of inequality, in this case income inequality. So they are saying that the more non-whites in the population, the greater the income inequality. My argument is that this does not adequately explain the cause of the income inequality. And, as you point out, it does nothing to explain why income inequality is, in all cases, a bad thing.

5 posted on 11/26/2011 9:06:06 AM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: gitmo
I can't read the labels of the two axes in the graph, so I have no idea what it's purporting to communicate.

The graph illustrates that income inequality rises as the percentage of non-Hispanic whites falls. Indicating, according to the author, that it is in states with the highest immigrant populations where income inequality is highest.

He's a Brit, though, so he, perhaps, doesn't realize that the category "non-Hispanic white", in the U.S., includes a bunch of non-immigrants, too.

His point is that the liberals' vaunted "diversity" comes with a downside and he thinks we need to be able to point that out to them. Not, of course, that they would listen.

6 posted on 11/26/2011 9:43:07 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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