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How To Tell Who Is A "Moderate" Islamist? An Exam (Dr. Rubin Will Grade You Today!
Rubin Reports ^ | 11/26/2011 | Barry Rubin

Posted on 11/26/2011 2:18:41 PM PST by goldstategop

The Muslim Brotherhood held a rally at Cairo’s most important mosque. Demonstrators chanted, “One day we shall kill all Jews.”

Question 1: How can you tell they are “moderate Islamists?”

Answer: They said “one day,” in other words, they aren’t going to do it this week.

Question 2: At the rally someone said:

“In order to build Egypt, we must be one. Politics is insufficient. Faith in Allah is the basis for everything. The al-Aqsa Mosque is currently under an offensive by the Jews.” Who was it?

Answer: Ahmed al-Tayeb, the “moderate” president of al-Azhar University and arguably the most important Muslim cleric in Egypt. Note: al-Aqsa Mosque is not under attack by Jews.

Question 3: Why did al-Tayeb talk this way in the context of calling for a Jihad against Israel?

Answer: Maybe he isn’t so moderate. But more importantly it is part of the general radicalization of Islam that is going to happen in Egypt now that the Brotherhood will be running the place and thus also his desire to survive rather than be branded a lackey of the Zionist-imperialist crusade to destroy Islam and have his head cut off. (See Question 1.)

Question 4: Can someone be a “moderate Muslim” or “moderate Islamist” and call for a Jihad to wipe Israel off the map?

Answer: Apparently yes. Muslim Brotherhood spokesmen made such calls at the rally yet the Obama Administration holds that the Brotherhood is moderate and the U.S. government supports its taking power in Egypt.

Question 5: How did the Muslim Brotherhood get the Jewish calendar wrong?

Answer: “Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv, judgment day has come.” In fact, Yom Kippur was last October 8

Question 6: An elementary school teacher Ala al-Din said, “All Egyptian Muslims are willing to embark on Jihad for the sake of Palestine.” What does he teach little children in school?

Answer: that all Egyptian Muslims should embark on Jihad to destroy Israel.

Question 7: Why don’t American officials, journalists, and “experts” understand Islamists?

Answer: Ala al-Din explained it: “Why is the US losing in Afghanistan? Because the other side is willing and wants to die. We have a different mentality than that of the Americans and Jews.” In other words because they don’t understand that people in the Arabic-speaking world have “a different mentality.”

Question 8: Is this mentality somehow biological or innate in Islam?

Answer: No, it is the result of historical processes, political culture, indoctrination in school and mosque and media, dominant ideology, and from the demagoguery of leaders.

Question 9: Why don’t Western reporters see what’s going on and report it fully?

Answer: They weren’t’ wearing their glasses so they didn’t see the signs; they weren’t’ wearing their hearing aids so they didn’t hear the chants.

Question 10: But these journalists, along with the officials and “experts” are idols of the Western elite, so is there any precedent for this?

Answer: Yes indeed! See here on line 16.

Question 11: Who said that the Muslim Brotherhood is “a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence” and what is he doing now?

Answer: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and he’s still director of national intelligence.

Question 12: Who said “Parties committed to democracy must reject violence….And in a region with deep divisions within and between religions, they cannot be the spark that starts a conflagration” and does that person react to what the Muslim Brotherhood actually says?

Answer: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and no.

Question 13: What possible rationale could she have for not dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood’s bloodthirsty totalitarian orientation and intolerance?

Answer: See Question 1. Extra credit question: Why will many Americans—including Jews–vote to reelect President Barack Obama despite the fact that his administration is whitewashing, supporting, and may soon be funding the world’s most powerful and genocidal-oriented antisemitic, anti-Christian, and anti-American group?

Answer: I don’t know. I only write about the Middle East.


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"Extra credit question: Why will many Americans—including Jews–vote to reelect President Barack Obama despite the fact that his administration is whitewashing, supporting, and may soon be funding the world’s most powerful and genocidal-oriented antisemitic, anti-Christian, and anti-American group?

Answer: I don’t know. I only write about the Middle East."

Dr. Barry Rubin is right. Don't ask me to explain why so many Americans are stuck on stupid about Islamic Nazism. Its a rising phoenix in the Middle East.

1 posted on 11/26/2011 2:18:47 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

There was an earlier post that opened my eyes watch the 1st utube vid and I will guarentee you will watch the remaining 3. Everything you wanted to know about islam that they are not telling you. riveting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkQoqVoBBCk


2 posted on 11/26/2011 2:23:57 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: goldstategop

“moderate”, huh? Like “moderate” Nazis?


3 posted on 11/26/2011 2:24:21 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: therightliveswithus

Liberals defend Islam today the way they defended Communism. Its the totalitarianism that succinctly defines it - what Karl Popper called the “enemies of the open society.” There is no such thing as a “moderate” Islamist. They are not democrats. People will find that out for themselves when its too late.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 2:27:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

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The danger is in the deception and obfuscation of the truth which results in the intellectual disarming of the American people.’

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5 posted on 11/26/2011 2:28:31 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ronnie raygun

For later...


6 posted on 11/26/2011 2:33:22 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: goldstategop

Well done. Great essay.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 2:37:39 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: goldstategop

“Extra credit question: Why will many Americans—including Jews–vote to reelect President Barack Obama despite the fact that his administration is whitewashing, supporting, and may soon be funding the world’s most powerful and genocidal-oriented antisemitic, anti-Christian, and anti-American group?
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American blacks support him because he is black.
Homosexuals support him because he supports them.
American Liberals support him because he is Liberal
American Democrats support him because they have hstorically supported any Democrat no matter what they did, said or have done.

his administration is whitewashing, supporting, and may soon be funding the world’s most powerful and genocidal-oriented antisemitic, anti-Christian, and anti-American group?
His administration is doing what their Muslim leader-—Obama
tells them to do.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 2:38:04 PM PST by Venturer
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To: therightliveswithus
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They are easy to tell apart.

9 posted on 11/26/2011 2:51:39 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Rights begin where power ends!)
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To: goldstategop

Moderate Muslims (Peace loving) and pro choice Catholics have much in common. They both have rejected the traditional position of
their Church or religious Fathers, they have rejected the writings of their faith and they will not follow their own leadership who are holding the majority position.
Read the Q’uran I beg you, my friends here on this Forum our National leaders with tears in my eyes I implore you read their book. Those who are true disciples of Islam are not peace loving or moderate. indeed they can not be!


10 posted on 11/26/2011 2:52:35 PM PST by The Bishop
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To: ronnie raygun

And to think that there are those in this country that want to abolish the right to bear arms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIe06T43LpE


11 posted on 11/26/2011 2:54:42 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: goldstategop

Moderate muslims and jihadist muslims (terrorists) read and are taugtht from the same islamic teachings.

muslims around the world danced and cheered in the streets over 9-11, but we are to believe that American muslims are different because they live here and are moderate. B.S! There are no moderate muslims.


12 posted on 11/26/2011 2:55:42 PM PST by umgud
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To: All

Unlike most of you, I actually know a great many American Muslims. I’ve known them all my life. Some were war veterans. Most of those I’ve known have been good decent citizens. I consider them friends and I’ll continue to support them against prejudice and bigotry.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 3:12:08 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: goldstategop

Great article.

I have the misfortune to have a Syrian expat as an office mate. One that considers himself a “moderate muslim.”

He is anything but.


14 posted on 11/26/2011 3:20:39 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: goldstategop

There are no moderate islamists.


15 posted on 11/26/2011 3:22:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sand lake bar

One of my doctors is a Muslim. He is no threat to me.

My officemate is a “moderate Muslim.” He is a very real threat.


16 posted on 11/26/2011 3:23:57 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: sauropod

If he’s a threat, the how can he be “moderate?”


17 posted on 11/26/2011 3:26:13 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: goldstategop
How To Tell Who Is A "Moderate" Islamist?

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Easy. A "moderate" Islamist will only kill "some" of the Jews, not "all" (yet). When Israel finally does to Iran what we should've (re: Iran's nuke program) Obama will stand with his mooselem brothers.

18 posted on 11/26/2011 3:39:00 PM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: sand lake bar

He labels himself so.

‘moderate’ muslims that take great pains to label themselves as such, aren’t.


19 posted on 11/26/2011 3:40:57 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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