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Because They Can [CONTROL]
National Review Online - The Corner ^ | December 3, 2011 | Andrew Stuttaford

Posted on 12/04/2011 5:38:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Reason’s Jacob Sullum discovers another example of nannies amok:

"Yesterday the Boston Public Health Commission voted to ban the use of electronic cigarettes in workplaces, including outdoor areas such as restaurant patios. It says it is simply “clos[ing] a loophole” by “treat[ing] e-cigarettes like tobacco products.” But since e-cigarettes do not contain any tobacco and do not generate smoke (merely a propylene glycol vapor containing nicotine), that is a puzzling way to characterize the decision. The official justification for banning smoking in workplaces is protecting employees and other bystanders from the toxins and carcinogens generated when tobacco is burned. Let’s leave aside the questions of how dangerous secondhand smoke really is and whether the government has any business regulating it on private property. In the absence of evidence that e-cigarettes are a hazard to other people, what possible justification is there for treating them the same as conventional cigarettes? I mean, they look like cigarettes, but surely that superficial resemblance is not enough for a scientifically grounded agency like the Boston Public Health Commission."

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... the anti-tobacco jihad of the last couple of decades has been as much (or more) about control as about health.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; cigarettes; conservatism; constitution; healthcare; nannystate; smoking
Excerpt from “Fed Up!” by Rick Perry:

“We are fed up with being overtaxed and overregulated. We are tired of being told how much salt we can put on our food, what windows we can buy for our house, what kinds of cars we can drive, what kinds of guns we can own, what kinds of prayers we are allowed to say and where we can say them, what political speech we are allowed to use to elect candidates, what kind of energy we can use, what kind of food we can grow, what doctor we can see, and countless other restrictions on our right to live as we see fit.”

1 posted on 12/04/2011 5:39:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Regulation for the sake of regulation has been the progressives’ stock in trade for nearly a hundred years. This is another example of attempts to regulate behavior without any foundation in simple logic.


2 posted on 12/04/2011 5:44:43 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, and those with Stasi informant impulses get to practice their groupthink and social controls.

Watch the little nazi wannabees go hysterical when some poor shlub tries to light up in a public park. You would think he was spraying cyanide on the children, who are 100 feet away. (Meanwhile they don’t notice the city bus pouring out diesel smoke next to them.)

Tobacco conmtrol is just one little test area for the police state transformation program.


3 posted on 12/04/2011 5:46:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Floyd Ferris: “Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against . . . We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”


4 posted on 12/04/2011 5:52:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rick Perry can say that (we are fed up) and then go on to issue an executive order to require Gardisil injections?
5 posted on 12/04/2011 5:53:19 AM PST by garyb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

i dont think i would want nicotine laced vapors inside the workplace too....


6 posted on 12/04/2011 5:53:19 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” I mean, they look like cigarettes, but surely that superficial resemblance is not enough for a scientifically grounded agency like the Boston Public Health Commission.”

Next from the Boston Public Health Commission: Women who have their breasts enlarged or wear falsies will not be allowed to appear in public since they give the impression of being real and cause drivers to have accidents. /s


7 posted on 12/04/2011 5:57:42 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Mr. K

Well, there is a solution for that which involves free men doing as they see fit, and zero coercion, governmental or otherwise.


8 posted on 12/04/2011 6:03:59 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I mean, they look like cigarettes, but surely that superficial resemblance is not enough for a scientifically grounded agency like the Boston Public Health Commission."

If a kid can be suspended for drawing a picture of a gun, all other bests are off.

I fear we may either be fighting another Civil War, or end up so subjugated that lobotomies would be a blessing.

9 posted on 12/04/2011 6:03:59 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: garyb
Rick Perry can say that (we are fed up) and then go on to issue an executive order to require Gardisil injections?

The facts are here if you're interested. The Texas Legislature had placed control with the office of governor over parental approval of vaccines. If you'll read the link I've provided, you will understand the EO was done to not only make it easier for parents to help pay for these cervical cancer vaccines but also to make it easier for them to opt out (of all vaccines if they so chose).

10 posted on 12/04/2011 6:11:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PubliusMM

I quit smoking three weeks ago and I vowed to never become one of those ‘smoking nazis’ that so many previous smokers become. (I also promised myself that I’d take up a two-pack-a-day habit on my 65th birthday)

There is NO reason to ban an e-cigarette. What’s really horrible is that a lot of people are successfully using e-cigarettes to quit.


11 posted on 12/04/2011 6:19:26 AM PST by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But you don’t understand.

E-cigs are a “gateway” item... /s


12 posted on 12/04/2011 6:20:12 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: garyb
I think the executive order was there so that “big pharma” would be required to provide the Gardesil for free for poor families and to make it easier for parents who didn't want it to opt out. It really should be a non issue if people would just look at the facts rather than scream wild rumors. I remember reading about it at the time.
13 posted on 12/04/2011 6:23:40 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Marie
Congratulations on quitting smoking! At first other peoples smoke is going to smell really good and you will long to join them. But as time goes on and you do not take up smoking again the smell will most likely become nasty and disgusting and you will avoid it at all costs.

I have heard this for years and it appears to be true because many smoking nazis are former smokers.

14 posted on 12/04/2011 6:35:31 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Funny how Bloomberg seemed to waive all of his no-smoking-in-parks stuff for the OWS folks. Some people are more equal than other people.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 12/04/2011 6:48:30 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Marie

I quit years ago when they were $1.50 a pack. Plastic straws were a big help. Health aside, be motivated by all that money you’ll be saving. Hang in there. You can do it!


16 posted on 12/04/2011 6:57:28 AM PST by FES0844
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To: FES0844

Three weeks in - I’m at the point where I usually fail. I feel like the anxiety will never go away.


17 posted on 12/04/2011 7:05:08 AM PST by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Marie
Three weeks in - I’m at the point where I usually fail. I feel like the anxiety will never go away

Hang in there!!!

I cold-turkeyed 8 years ago. 3 packs of full flavored Winston 100's /day. I just kept counting all that money I wasn't spending on smokes. And that's when they were under $3!!!

I bought a new truck with the money per month I was saving.

18 posted on 12/04/2011 11:08:01 AM PST by digger48
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