Posted on 12/04/2011 2:29:55 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
Thank the Lord that it entirely possible to govern this country as a Constitutionalist, while at the same time trying to live one's life based on the teachings, vaules and opinions of the Catholic Church. Otherwise, a President Gingrich should be expected to award clemency to virutally every capital appeal that came across his desk, and to avoid military interventions like the one we engaged in in Afghanistan. Can't have it both ways.
Precisely. This is a religious question and is therefore beyond the scope of the US Government to define.
What we have scientific proof of is that all mammalian life begins at fertilization.
Yep. It's right up there with proof of evolution.
Or did you just decide that Man really is nothing more than an animal?
Thank the Lord that it entirely possible to govern this country as a Constitutionalist, while at the same time trying to live one's life based on the teachings, vaules and opinions of the Catholic Church. Otherwise, a President Gingrich should be expected to award clemency to virutally every capital appeal that came across his desk, and to avoid military interventions like the one we engaged in in Afghanistan. Can't have it both ways.
Did you even read the article? He states that he is against this practice, and has always been so.
The eye of Newt will implode, and the “angry old badger will appear for winter.
Yeah. Welcome to my world. I know it's somewhere between conception and ability to draw the first breath.
Better to err on the side of life, but...
Thanks Clint N. Suhks.
I will vote for NO candidate on ANY political party who supports illegals in any way.
The embryos are definitely created in a state of mortal danger. The danger is entered into by intentional acts, whether or not the parents or lab personnel understand (or “believe”).
If the child is begun for his or her own sake, as a means to an end in and of him/herself, and nurtured and cared for with respect as any other child, then there can be an argument for using the doctrine of unintended consequences or double effect.
But the standard would be high.
At the least, the doctors, parents and techs are guilty of manslaughter, just as you would be if someone died after a car crash when you choose to drive after a couple of drinks or skipping your car inspection, knowing your brakes don’t always work.
Who knows what lip service he may or may not pay, but in fact he is pro-choice for states like Ron Paul and Gerald R. Ford, and he excepts the children of rape and incest victims from the equal protection of their God-given, unalienable right to live.
...I know, as I'm sure he does, that adult stem cells have been proven very effective in treatments, while fetal or embryonic stem cells haven't.....and those of us who are prolife......do not support fetal stem cell research.
What I'm not sure of is what point you were trying to make???
By the way, Perry has also promised to sign immoral, unconstitutional “fetal pain” legislation, given the chance.
Stupid straw man and a complete non-sequitor.
I can and do practice medicine based on evidence derived from verifiable, repeatable experiments. We can go anywhere in the world and find the same reaction to the same medications.
Again, what is implanted? Do the techs in either the in vitro lab or the embryonic stem cell lab just scoop up all the material in the petri dishes and hope they got a “live one?”
“”one iota of difference on in how he votes on that legislation.””
He wouldn’t get to vote on any legislation!
“”An ectopic pregnancy is one of the very few circumstances in which abortion is legitimately allowed (i.e. to save the mother’s life).””
An ectopic pregnancy can be ended by spontaneous abortion - or surgically. I was lucky enough to get to the operating room as the tube ruptured. Not a pleasant experience but I never thought of it as an abortion.
Veto or sign.
Perry signed the Texas fetal pain law in 2005.
It is not perfect but it has punished several murderers and been the impetus for the conversation that changed the minds of several non-pro-life Freepers and acquaintances.
Our prenatal law is better than we could have gotten if we had insisted on including prosecution of the mother and doctor for currently legal elective abortion. It was a step to this year's law that did not have the rape and incest exception and the hoped for Human Life Amendment.
Since there is no such proof, then you are not a human person either under current law.
I'm not quite sure of what you mean by a straw man and a non sequitur.
Is it a straw man or a non sequitur to point out the the US government has no Constitutional authority to define a spiritual event? Or is it both?
It seems to me the question is exactly on point.
Is it a straw man, a non sequitur or just stupid to agree with you that mammalian life begins at conception? Did I err in noticing that to use this as the sole criteria means that a human is spiritually no different than any other mammal?
Do the techs in either the in vitro lab or the embryonic stem cell lab just scoop up all the material in the petri dishes and hope they got a live one?
Nope, they use the exact same techniques they use to genetically engineer better pigs.
We are better than pigs because we have souls.
Show me when exactly a soul picks up a body.
Is this because our country is finished or is it because the msm has sharpened its game so well that it can easily destroy true Conservatives?
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