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Gingrich: Life Doesn't Begin at Conception Because That Would 'Open Up ... Very Difficult Questions'
CNS News ^ | 12/4/11 | By Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 12/04/2011 2:29:55 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks

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To: Clint N. Suhks

Gingrich had no business converting to Catholicism if he had no intention of following Church teachings. The guy is Clinton redux.


121 posted on 12/04/2011 6:43:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: RockinRight

“”Veto or sign.””

Got it........sure don’t want to set any precedence in a president voting on legislation, do we? obozo didn’t want to vote yay or nay on any legislation but I’m sure he’d love to now.


122 posted on 12/04/2011 6:43:49 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: itsahoot
Since there is no such proof, then you are not a human person either under current law.

Under current law I became not just a human person, but a Natural Born Citizen, at birth.

123 posted on 12/04/2011 6:44:53 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1048 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: EternalVigilance

No wonder you’ve never gotten a law passed. You can’t stay on topic.

You are, of course, wrong once again. You simply must get better help.


124 posted on 12/04/2011 6:45:50 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: alicewonders
"How anyone can even contemplate supporting him as our nominee is beyond me."

Well, unless some other more conservative entity appears out of the woodwork and "gains traction", it apparently is going to boil down to Newt vs. Mitt. Of that pairing, I'd have to go with Newt.

125 posted on 12/04/2011 6:46:35 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Clint N. Suhks

“”Newt Gingrich said he believes that human life does not begin at conception but at “implantation and successful implantation””

I don’t even know know HOW or WHY he made this jump!!! This is really too far out there for me. Do we have to say goodbye to Newt now too? Sure is beginning to look like it.


126 posted on 12/04/2011 6:47:12 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: rhinohunter
Anyway, my point is that no one to Bush's right can get any traction whatsoever.

Not true. Anyone to Bush's right is destroyed in the press before they can get any votes.

127 posted on 12/04/2011 6:47:30 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1048 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: null and void
Under current law I became not just a human person, but a Natural Born Citizen, at birth.

And down this path lies the government making a law that says you're an aardvark with no rights at all which is the problem when people look to current laws to determine rights.

128 posted on 12/04/2011 6:49:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This video on the development of a baby shows that at 25 days the heart is formed and thereafter starts beating. It seems to me that if the beating heart is stopped deliberately, that is killing.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/astounding_video_shows_fetal_development_in_detail.html


129 posted on 12/04/2011 6:52:57 PM PST by Islander2
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To: Wonder Warthog
Well, unless some other more conservative entity appears out of the woodwork and "gains traction", it apparently is going to boil down to Newt vs. Mitt. Of that pairing, I'd have to go with Newt.

So we have to choose between milquetoast Mitt and a guy who lies to his wives and new found Church?

I think I'll puke now.

130 posted on 12/04/2011 6:54:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: null and void

Noone has to prove the existence of the soul to justify laws against murder or the use of regulated material and licensed personal for the purpose of killing or putting human lives in a state of mortal danger.

If we must prove the soul exists to prove that a person is a person, how do I know that you are a person?


131 posted on 12/04/2011 6:54:49 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: jwalsh07
Yep. Nothing stopping them from deciding a whole group of humans is only worth 3/5 of a person, either...

Yes I know why this was done, and yes I know that it enabled the downfall of slavery in the US a bare three generations later.

132 posted on 12/04/2011 6:57:52 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1048 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: jwalsh07
"So we have to choose between milquetoast Mitt and a guy who lies to his wives and new found Church? I think I'll puke now."

The situation is what it is. I don't much like it either, but Sarah decided not to run. Would you prefer either Mitt (or Obama)?? And I'd say that Gingrich is WAY more truly conservative than McCain.

133 posted on 12/04/2011 7:00:54 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: jonrick46

We know that both the pill and the IUD prevent the sperm from reaching the oocyte - anyone who practices natural family planning understands the significance of the thickened cervical mucus due to the progesterone surge after ovulation.

Reference: experiments done by Croxatto and by Durand.

However, I don’t advise IUD’s because they can also interfere with implantation and with development of the child.

(And, BTW, The women who take progesterone to support early pregnancies understand how progesterone works to improve the chances of implantation and continuation of the pregnancy.)


134 posted on 12/04/2011 7:01:25 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc

Ummm, because I vote?


135 posted on 12/04/2011 7:01:36 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1048 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I’ll vote for the nominee but Gingrich is moving into territory where I may not be able to pull the lever for him. The guy damn well knows that life begins at conception and this Clintonian implantation bs flies in the face of the promises he recently made to the Catholic Church. History tells me that Gingrich’s promises are worthless.


136 posted on 12/04/2011 7:06:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Guenevere

Technically, umbilical cord blood, amniotic cells and placental cells are all sources of ethical fetal stem cells.

Besides having studied this subject for over ten years, testifying and speaking many times at our Texas legislature and for many clubs, I have a personal interest. My granddaughter’s life was saved by a bone marrow transplant using an anonymous little boy’s umbilical cord blood, when she was 15 months old, back in 2001. https://lifeethics.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/umbilical-cord-blood-saves-lives/


137 posted on 12/04/2011 7:07:11 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: null and void

So, according to you there are 2 tests for personhood, if we can scientifically prove the soul and/or if the entity votes?

What about children under the age of 18?


138 posted on 12/04/2011 7:09:26 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: X-spurt
Just to point out the absurdity..... one could say “conception” occurs when the “CONCEPT of gettin it on” occurs.

And you would be wrong: but that figures, since you're just trying to justify your screen name.

See also Tristram Shandy Chapter 2.VIII:

‘Good God!’ cried my uncle Toby, ‘are children brought into the world with a squirt?’

Cheers!

139 posted on 12/04/2011 7:11:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jupiterbob

The soul can’t be measured, yet.
For the twin - it looks like the twinning capacity may be there from the first.

Nevertheless, we can’t kill two for the price of one, either.


140 posted on 12/04/2011 7:14:33 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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