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To: sodpoodle
Newt is referring to IVF treatments, which I have no problem with what so ever.

My wife and I had a hard time having kids originally, we spent 10 years trying unsuccessfully. We finally went to an IVF doctor and had them combine my sperm and her some of her eggs together and then implant them, 2 of 4 took and we now have twins. I am very strongly pro-life and I don't see anything wrong with what we did, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I know that to some every masturbating is killing a potential child, but you have to recognize that you are in the vast minority of opinion.

Bachmann is just being her usual spiteful self.

26 posted on 12/04/2011 3:11:54 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If life did not already exist within a frozen human, why would a doctor “implant” it?

Your comments do not make sense.


31 posted on 12/04/2011 3:29:56 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Newt is referring to IVF treatments”

No, he is referring to stem cell research. He is trying to create a loophole so that life can be created for research purposes and then be discarded. Since there is no implantation involved he wants to say that he is not discarding human life, but according to Catholic doctrine, he is.


32 posted on 12/04/2011 3:33:45 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“We finally went to an IVF doctor and had them combine my sperm and her some of her eggs together and then implant them, 2 of 4 took and we now have twins. I am very strongly pro-life and I don’t see anything wrong with what we did, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. “

But this is against the Catholic religion, and Newt claims to have converted to Catholicism. Maybe Newt doesn’t know the religion thoroughly yet.


95 posted on 12/04/2011 6:03:41 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Newt is referring to IVF treatments, which I have no problem with what so ever.”

I agree; Newt is almost certainly talking about IVF, since IVF often results in “extra” embryos which can then be used later by the parents, or donated to others who can’t even achieve healthy embryos. My husband and I also used IVF and have two terrific children as a result. I wouldn’t change a minute of that.

Newt is also probably talking about “the pill” in birth control, since the pill works by preventing implantation. If you legally define life as beginning at conception rather than at implantation, that is going to doom use of the pill. Many people would be happy about that, but many millions of families use the pill as their form of birth control, and would fight you tooth and nail if you tried to get rid of it.

And as another poster pointed out, Newt is probably also talking about ectopic pregnancies, where the embryo is implanted accidentally in a fallopian tube. If the ectopic pregnancy does not resolve itself (which I believe it does sometimes, but not often), then surgery is required to remove the embryo in the tube. Otherwise, the embryo will eventually grow to a point where it ruptures the tube and causes anything from severe infection to pretty much immediate death for the mother. Thus one could say that implantation in a fallopian tube is an UNsuccessful implantation.

So while these circumstances may be tedious to discuss at great length, they really should be part of the conversation.


162 posted on 12/04/2011 10:45:08 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Our GOP candidates: Good grief, is this really the best field we can put together???)
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