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Celebration penalty costs title (Player raises hand as he scores)
ESPN ^ | 12/7/2011

Posted on 12/07/2011 7:46:17 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

OSTON -- A Massachusetts high school lost a state championship game because a player raised his arm in triumph as he ran for what would have been a go-ahead touchdown, and Boston mayor Thomas Menino doesn't like it.

The penalty for the gesture by Cathedral High School quarterback Matthew Owens in Saturday's Division 4A Super Bowl led to the losing team wondering if the referee's decision could be challenged. The state association said Wednesday that it could not.

"I think sometimes these rules are written by frustrated athletes," Menino said from Cathedral, according to Wednesday's Boston Herald. "They never participated in a sport, and they don't know what it is to be excited. You play in a football game, you run for a touchdown, and you do something special."

Blue Hills Regional Technical School athletic director Ed Catabia told The Boston Globe on Sunday that the referee made "a great call, the right call."

"We try and play by the rules, and the rule is 'no celebrating,' " he said.

The referee was enforcing a sportsmanship rule that prohibits players from celebratory or taunting behavior while scoring a touchdown.

MIAA Statement

The Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association has issued a statement, sent to multiple media outlets Wednesday afternoon, regarding Saturday's Boston Cathedral versus Blue Hills Regional Vocational Eastern Mass Division 4A Super Bowl.

The 18-year-old senior was racing for a score as time wound down in the game against Blue Hills. Video shows Owens briefly raising his left arm and then lowering it as he approaches the end zone. The penalty nullified the touchdown, and Cathedral lost the game 16-14.

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1 posted on 12/07/2011 7:46:23 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss

LSU’s Brad Wing faked a punt and ran it in for a TD but opened his arms up to a Gator before scoring and they penalized the team. Didn’t cost them game, but it did cost him the 6 points. Just score and go back to the sideline.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 7:51:24 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: GreaterSwiss
please, it's not like he did the Plaxico or something...
3 posted on 12/07/2011 7:51:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
please, it's not like he did the Plaxico or something...

Wasn't that awful?

4 posted on 12/07/2011 7:53:32 PM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: VicVega

so another stupid call makes it ok?


5 posted on 12/07/2011 7:55:49 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: frogjerk; Chode

Yeah it was awful. Plaxico had the last laugh when he scored to give the Jets the win. Yeah Johnson had a chance to win for the Bills but dropped a pass when he was wide open.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 7:56:37 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: GreaterSwiss

7 posted on 12/07/2011 7:58:36 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: GreaterSwiss
Though I can sort of see the need for this kind of rule... nullifying the touchdown seems a little extreme for a penalty.

I think a 20 yard penalty on the next kickoff would have been adequate

8 posted on 12/07/2011 7:59:58 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: GreaterSwiss
NCAA rules! Coaches wanted them and the got the rules. So you follow them. A good life lesson for the kid.

So to answer your question ?so another stupid call makes it ok?"

Yes!.

The High Schools followed the same rules as the NCAA.

9 posted on 12/07/2011 8:01:11 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: GreaterSwiss

This is total B.S. Can’t they leave anything alone. What was he supposed to do, walk over to the over team and tell them he was sorry he scored. Life is a game - sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Winners should be allowed to celebrate, losers should try and find out how they can win the next time. JUST STOP THIS SH**!! Between the politicians and a lot of parents our kids are being turned into a bunch of pansies.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 8:02:25 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Wonder if they would assess the penalty if he just smiled. Or would a grin be sufficient? Or maybe just a smirk? Maybe a twitch or a tic of the mouth?


11 posted on 12/07/2011 8:06:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: VicVega; GreaterSwiss

They take this too far.

I think the saying is though, “Act like you’ve made a touchdown before”


12 posted on 12/07/2011 8:07:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Expressing joy at victory is wrong, apparently. Like the US Olympic team was told to tone it down because being happy about winning might be offensive.

Maybe if we gave the libs a game with no points, but required both teams to cooperate, they’d leave the rest of us alone.


13 posted on 12/07/2011 8:07:27 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Grams A

Finally a sane response. Anyone who has played sports knows some things are said and done on the field that are probably not the wisest move, but hey it’s sports.

People need to grow the heck up. I was ejected once when I played baseball when I was younger. And I deserved it. But costing the whole team a championship is ridiculous.


14 posted on 12/07/2011 8:07:31 PM PST by JosephMama (Huntsman 2012: That other Mormon guy)
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To: frogjerk; VicVega
it was stooopid but i laughed like hell !!!

as a ny fan i hate burress for what he did to the team and what he got away with... he should gone to jail like anybody else

15 posted on 12/07/2011 8:08:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Grams A

It was a display of taunting by the rules. He could have danced all night in the end zone after the touchdown and gotten a 15 yard penalty. He celebrated before crossing the goal.


16 posted on 12/07/2011 8:08:47 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: GreaterSwiss
"Losing a game or having an official's call go against you or your team are all part of sports... Athletes must learn to put these things behind them... During their lifetime they will experience similar situations where they feel 'wronged' by a superior or authority figure and they must learn to deal with that situation."

This rationalization was made by the idiot-in-charge who earlier claimed the ref made "a great call".

Yes kids, life is full of self-important morons who think more of the "rules" than what's right, so you better just get used to it.

17 posted on 12/07/2011 8:11:32 PM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: Chode
NOT a NY fan at all. However, I like Burress. He did do jail time and it was only because Bloomberg wanted to make a point.

I'd rather see touchdowns scored and the ball handed to the ref like Barry Sanders would do.

Packer leaping is fine too. The prime time dances are boring. As a Saint fan, I get aggravated seeing them dance. Thats just me.

NY better beat the cowgirls!

18 posted on 12/07/2011 8:13:39 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega
Just score and go back to the sideline.

I believe that one coach put it: "Act like you've done it before."

19 posted on 12/07/2011 8:15:11 PM PST by Bob
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To: VicVega
Just score and go back to the sideline.

The best advice for these situations is something my dad used to tell me. "When you score, act as if you've been there before. Flip the ball to the ref and head back to the bench. There's nothing cooler."

Plenty of coaches have said it before and it really is the best way to to comport oneself on the ball field.

20 posted on 12/07/2011 8:16:27 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Zero tolerance is a Liberal idea that should be ridiculed like most other Liberal ideas. The idea that raising an arm can be construed as excessive celebration is simply ludicrous.

But then again this is the Northeast. Isn’t this where playing soccer games but not keeping score got started?


21 posted on 12/07/2011 8:16:32 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: GreaterSwiss
Insanity; especially after one watches the video.
22 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:02 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: GreaterSwiss

Another elephant in the room. This would seem to a cultural issue. When whites dominated the sports world they scored and went to the sidelines. Now that blacks dominate when they score they feel the need to have a solid gold dancers moment. We’re trying to make blacks like whites. It doesn’t seem to be working. Put everyone through the military for two years and we might just get there. Otherwise, it isn’t happening.


23 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:51 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: VicVega

As if cheerleader action is NOT at least as “bad”? Come on this is a sport, and if NCAA itself is calling that a taunt, well they must have miiiiiighty thin skin. Sure he ought to obey the rules, even if stupid, but stupid rules ought to be subject to revision and this would likely head the list. It’s not like the would be scorer thumbed his nose or sumfin.


24 posted on 12/07/2011 8:18:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Bob; GeronL
"Act like you've done it before."

GeronL wrote the same thing, and I agree.

In the NFL, all these young guys want to emulate Deion Sanders so they can end up on sport highlight films.

BTW, GEAUX LSU, GEAUX SAINTS!

25 posted on 12/07/2011 8:19:28 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Barry Sanders must have known your father, thats how he did it when he scored.


26 posted on 12/07/2011 8:20:49 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

‘Honey Badger’ ahd a faux touchdown in the 2011 SEC championship game. Finishing a kick return, he did not cross the goal line in possession of the ball. But that touchdown was allowed and the day turned in LSU’s favor from there. These things all depend upon which state the game is played and what schools are involved.


27 posted on 12/07/2011 8:23:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: VicVega
i'm old school and agree whole heatedly that you should act like you've been in the endzone before... enough of the me me me me bullsh!t

i still don't think he got enough time though, if it was you or me, well

28 posted on 12/07/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The coaches in the NCAA wanted this particular kind of taunting added to the rules this year. The NCAA followed and added it. It was used twice in the NCAA this year and touchdowns were called back. As written, the division these HS teams are in follow those rules. Kids know it before going in. Sucks, but it happened.


29 posted on 12/07/2011 8:27:22 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega
Barry was one hell of an athlete and a gentleman. I'm sure Pa got the saying from someone else but it's still good advice.
30 posted on 12/07/2011 8:28:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Chode

LOL, we would still be in the slammer.


31 posted on 12/07/2011 8:28:41 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega
ya got that right...
32 posted on 12/07/2011 8:33:01 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MHGinTN; HereInTheHeartland
Yes, in one camera angle it looked as though Honey B gave up the ball prior to scoring.

Lets say he didn't score based on that angle.

The IR Crew upstairs had at their discretion to overturn the call.

Georgia could have challenged the call. The game was played in their back yard as in their state. They failed to do so, so the TD failed.

Now get over Bama losing to the number 1 team in the Nation MHGINTN.

You guys have an opportunity to lose again in the BCS Championship. LOL!

33 posted on 12/07/2011 8:35:09 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: DBrow

Well, to take an argument from a thread earlier today attacking Romney for saying he had kept his marriage together — if you celebrate winning, you are really just attacking losers by telling them that winning is better.


34 posted on 12/07/2011 8:35:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: VicVega

Well, it still seems awfully thin skinned of the NCAA to want it. “Hooray I’m winning” is a taunt? Is everyone on the edge of a roid rage?


35 posted on 12/07/2011 8:38:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Chode

Sorry, my reply ended up going to someone else. It was meant for you. Glad you caught it.


36 posted on 12/07/2011 8:39:26 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: DBrow
In 1965 my high school football team won the state championship. We jumped and shouted and even put our fists in the air. We beat them fair and square. We also went out and shook the opposing teams hand. We did nothing wrong. We did not fear the opposing team, but we did fear our coach Mr. Hillman. We would never do anything wrong that would bring shame to Coach Hillman. The fear we had of coach Hillman was not of punishment. We feared greatly his disapproval.
37 posted on 12/07/2011 8:46:20 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Your confused again on who wanted it and who instituted it based on the majority of the coaches request. Excessive taunting happens in all aspects of the game regardless if the team is winning or losing. Watch someone go ape sh*t when they make a tackle. In some cases it can be flagged as excessive and a penalty of 15 yards usually follows. In this particular case the HS student wasn’t winning, they were behind by 4 points if I recall. He taunted the other player and got called for it.


38 posted on 12/07/2011 8:47:31 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega

I mean, winning the touchdown (regardless of the overall score).

Back when the high school I went to did pep rallies, it was amazing and amusing what the cheerleader squads came up with to taunt the opposition. For example, one rival team called the Commodores was dubbed the “Commode Odors.” Nobody really cared because the razzing was mutual.

But, it may be that players have become such prima donnas now that this is needed to head off donnybrooks on the field. Sad.


39 posted on 12/07/2011 8:57:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: CW_Conservative
Where did they dig up that Zampolit troll?
40 posted on 12/07/2011 9:00:50 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"may be that players have become such prima donnas "

Probably is one of the reasons the coaches wanted this particular act included in the rules.

Maybe, just maybe, they are trying to reestablish the sportsmanship that is fading in the game.

41 posted on 12/07/2011 9:03:33 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega

If sportsmanship is failing, it surely is because social ethics and morality themselves are failing. Just because a sport is a sport doesn’t mean that it can’t get very ungodly, and coaches can at best have limited influence. It’s a social problem.


42 posted on 12/07/2011 9:05:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: VicVega
Sucks, but it happened.

I quit watching sports when "the rules" took over the actual game.

What kind of whiny little girly-man b*tches would take a "win" from a ref in this situation?

I would have gone over and spit in the ref's eye if I'd have been on the team that got the dirty win. I guess it shows you where the yutes of Merika are at these days...

43 posted on 12/07/2011 9:07:58 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Twisted! Thanks.


44 posted on 12/07/2011 9:08:39 PM PST by DBrow
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To: HiTech RedNeck
and coaches can at best have limited influence.

And thats what they are trying to do.

The kid is kind of like the Scott Norwood of his HS football team.

Okay, that was mean.

45 posted on 12/07/2011 9:11:29 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: GreaterSwiss

There are three issues in play here. The first is whether it’s a rule. The second is whether it’s a stupid rule. The third is whether rules should be adhered to.


46 posted on 12/07/2011 9:12:19 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: VicVega

I fear the efforts will be mostly in vain and will be more parallel to an over-legislated, over-lawyered society. How about penalizing the donnybrooks, not the on field celebrations? If Player A winning a touchdown waves (non menacingly) at opposing Player B, make them kiss, hug, or shake hands in the middle of the field or something, but don’t screw up the scoring system.


47 posted on 12/07/2011 9:16:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

And a fourth issue would be if it should be abolished.


48 posted on 12/07/2011 9:23:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: GreaterSwiss
A bad call for sure. But on another note, I here that the NFL plans to dress all quarterbacks and receivers in pink next year and have them wear yellow flags on each side for the defense to grab instead of tackling them. Also, all running backs will have to be tackled from behind so as to not cause any head on head hits. I believe I will be watching the Lingerie League where things will be a bit tougher and more exciting.
49 posted on 12/07/2011 9:27:30 PM PST by Jay Redhawk
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As I wrote before, score the touchdown first. He was heading untouched into the end zone. Once you score the touchdown, than do all the dancing and parading around you want. You will most likely be penalized, but the score counts. You will probably get a 15 yard penalty assessed from the kickoff line. The TD stands. He just had to score first. Its so simple. That would have left the opposing team with perhaps good yardage, but the outcome could have been better.


50 posted on 12/07/2011 9:31:51 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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