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The Truth About the Valerie Plame Case Finally Emerges (Scooter Libby Innocent)
New American ^ | Sam Blumenfeld

Posted on 12/08/2011 4:39:47 PM PST by Mount Athos

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To: katiedidit1; All
What exactly is contained in this release that we didn't know before?

The wonderful dedicated mans life was destroyed. I hope he makes millions selling books or even on movie offers. Such a disgrace what happened to him and his family

Does Fitzpatrick blow all his money? If not, maybe someone like Mark Levin could help Scott Libby get a bunch of it.

41 posted on 12/08/2011 7:21:47 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: rlmorel
I think you are right in your assessment of Colin Powell. His disloyalty to the man who selected him as Secretary of State is inexplicable unless he bore a grudge (maybe because his public defense of Bush's Iraq policy displeased people he wanted to hob-nob with at Washington parties?).

Joe Wilson had fabricated a motive for the political people in the Bush White House (Bush, Cheney, Rove) to want to damage Valerie Plame, and Fitzgerald seems to have taken that as his starting point. Even if it were true it would be par for the course in Washington--remember that Clintonista (Bacon) who revealed Linda Tripp's arrest (she was the victim of a prank by some "friends" and the case was quickly thrown out, but making the arrest public knowledge damaged her public reputation).

Libby was found guilty because his memory didn't match Russert's memory--instead of reasoning that both men were doing their best to remember an obscure conversation and had conflicting recollections, Fitzgerald chose to believe Russert and assume the other man was lying.

It was clear from the comments made by the jury after the trial that they wanted to find someone guilty--they wanted someone higher up in the administration but found Libby guilty because that's all they had.

42 posted on 12/08/2011 7:29:59 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: katiedidit1

I agree. That is the one thing that made me really mad at Bush for, damnit, he should have pardoned that man.


43 posted on 12/08/2011 7:32:15 PM PST by annieokie
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To: RushingWater
Hogwash. President Bush knew it was an abuse of the judicial system...

Not true, but then I don't expect the perpetual Bush haters here to recognize the truth. Like the rest of us, President Bush did not know who the leaker was until after he left office. The people who knew were Armitage, Powell, Novak and Fitzgerald. None of them told the truth although they all had plenty of opportunity to do so.

Armitage and Powell were guilty, at minimum, of betraying their country and president by withholding the truth. Novak was guilty of betraying professional ethics by allowing himself to be cowed by Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald was guilty of gross prosecutorial misconduct. I'm no lawyer, but it's possible Fitzgerald, himself, broke some serious laws.

The victims of this disgusting charade pulled by those four men were first the country -- the American people -- second, the President, third, Scooter Libby and his family, and fourth, the other people in the White House whom Fitzgerald hounded (including Rove).

Perpetual Bush haters like you just compound the injustice.

44 posted on 12/08/2011 8:18:25 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: rlmorel
That is the main reason I despise Colin Powell. He could have set that right. But didn't.

I agree, although the person who bears the greatest responsibility and guilt for not setting the record straight is Fitzgerald. He committed gross prosecutorial misconduct and quite possibly broke several laws himself. That he skated free of any consequences is a monumental injustice. That way too many so-called conservatives continue to blame President Bush for not pardoning Scooter when GWB did not have all the facts at hand, while they essentially brush aside what Fitzgerald did is sickening.

45 posted on 12/08/2011 8:25:28 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yeah. The Leftist bass turds were having wet dreams about **someone** getting frog-marched out of the White House, and when they pulled in their net, the only one they could go for was an innocent man.

How I despise them.


46 posted on 12/08/2011 8:34:03 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: Wolfstar

I think Bush should have pardoned Libby, but at least he spared him from going to prison. I think he wanted to respect our system of trial by jury (even though obviously juries don’t always reach the correct conclusion—see the O.J. criminal trial). He didn’t have all the facts and thought that he shouldn’t second-guess the jurors who had spent a lot of time listening to the case.


47 posted on 12/08/2011 8:44:33 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Wolfstar

I understand that point of view, but I viewed him (Fitzgerald) as an enemy from day one. Fitzgerald was on the side of those who wanted to skewer the administration in some fashion.

I find Powell’s conduct particularly disturbing. There is something egregious about disloyalty (especially to someone who did a lot for him) that angers me beyond words.

That a scum like Fitzgerald forgoes his oaths and moral compasses neither surprises me nor disconcerts me. He and those behind him are liberals, and they sacrifice everything to the altar of their false God, Liberalism. He is no different, I completely expect him to be unprofessional and immoral.

But I expected differently of Colin Powell.

As for George W. Bush (a man I still admire in many ways though I disagree vehemently with his stances on various issues) I have always felt that he should have pardoned Libby regardless. What was he going to do, make liberals hate him more? I believe he should have done it even with incomplete information, because no law or statute was ever broken. The POS Plame was a damned desk jockey who made no secret of her employment. Everyone knew who she was. In light of that, I feel a pardon should have been forthcoming.


48 posted on 12/08/2011 8:47:52 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: rlmorel; Verginius Rufus
Verginius Rufus has it exactly right in saying:

He [GWB] didn’t have all the facts and thought that he shouldn’t second-guess the jurors who had spent a lot of time listening to the case.

To commute rather than pardon was an honorable, although in my opinion, flawed decision. Flawed in no small part because the President did not have all the facts. We must also remember that Scooter did not want a pardon, as he was still trying to clear his name at the time through appeals.

As for Powell, he is indeed scum in my opinion. I just don't let Fitzgerald off as lightly as you, because his oath before the bar and ethical obligations as a prosecutor have to trump politics. Fitzgerald should absolutely have been not only disbarred, but prosecuted for the relevant crimes involved in his malicious actions. That NO ONE in and out of government called for it at the time is disgraceful.

49 posted on 12/08/2011 9:03:11 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar

According to Wikipedia, Armitage admitted he was the leak in August of 2006, two years before President Bush left office.

I truly like and respect President Bush, but there are many things he did or didn’t do that I disagree with. Not pardoning Libby was one of them. Especially after the truth finally came out. Not sure how he sleeps with that one on his conscience.

Meanwhile, Fitzgerald should be prosecuted since he knew everything BEFORE he really started this whole mess and covered it up.

The whole thing is nasty, sordid and disgusting.


50 posted on 12/09/2011 2:28:03 AM PST by ODC-GIRL (We live in interesting times)
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To: rlmorel

Colin Powell seems to think he’s the greatest living American and was just doing Bush a favor by agreeing to serve in his administration.


51 posted on 12/09/2011 7:47:21 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ODC-GIRL
The sources cited in the Wikipedia article saying that Armitage admitted being the leaker are The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post, CNN, and a book by Michael Isikoff and David Corn. Maybe President Bush did not consider any of them to be reliable sources.
52 posted on 12/09/2011 8:00:01 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I do remember when the story came out, but you do have a point!


53 posted on 12/09/2011 5:49:04 PM PST by ODC-GIRL (We live in interesting times)
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