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To: MileHi

If you have a problem with presidential warpowers, don’t tell me about it. The Forefathers set up the document, not me.

All it says is that for the defense of the country, the president has unlimited power. It doesn’t say unlimited, in an outward direction but very limited in an inward direction. It just says unlimited.

I think you can figure out what that means.


31 posted on 12/09/2011 7:52:18 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Jonty30
If you have a problem with presidential warpowers, don’t tell me about it. The Forefathers set up the document, not me.

What "presidential warpowers" exactly do you refer to?

33 posted on 12/09/2011 7:59:52 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Jonty30
If you have a problem with presidential warpowers, don’t tell me about it. The Forefathers set up the document, not me.

And that document also spells out the conditions under which he may use those warpowers--namely, a DECLARED WAR. None of the so-called wars we are currently engaged in are declared wars. In fact the "War on Terror" is not even against an actual entity. If jihadists are our enemy, then why not declare war on jihadists? By defining it so loosely, anyone who is perceived as a terrorist is the enemy and therefore subject to the whimsical use of these warpowers by a vindictive, partisan president. That "terrorist" could be you or me.

45 posted on 12/09/2011 9:11:22 PM PST by giotto
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To: Jonty30
If you have a problem with presidential warpowers, don’t tell me about it. The Forefathers set up the document, not me.

Where exactly in the Constitution is that spelled out? Which Article and Section specifically says that the President spells out these "unlimited" powers?

It just says unlimited.

Where exactly in the Constitution does the word "unlimited" appear? In which Article and Section is it used?

Take your time. I'll wait.

L

48 posted on 12/09/2011 9:32:45 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Jonty30
All it says is that for the defense of the country, the president has unlimited power."

So the President could bang your wife, daughter, or son up the b*** in the name of National Defense? Is that what you're saying?

49 posted on 12/09/2011 9:41:43 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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