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Congress cannot accelerate Keystone (XL pipeline) decision: State Department
Yahoo ^ | 12/12/11

Posted on 12/13/2011 5:27:32 AM PST by Libloather

Congress cannot accelerate Keystone decision: State Department
Reuters – 12 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department warned on Monday that a plan by congressional Republicans to fast track the Canada-to-Texas Keystone XL pipeline decision would violate environmental laws and force it to withhold approval.

"Should Congress impose an arbitrary deadline for the permit decision ... the department would be unable to make a determination to issue a permit for this project," the State Department said in a statement.

**SNIP**

Environmentalists say the pipeline would threaten Nebraska's Sand Hills region and lead to higher greenhouse gas emissions, and had threatened to hold back on campaigning for Obama in the election.

The State Department is now obtaining additional information on possible alternate routes that avoid the Sand Hills in Nebraska, and believes this review could be completed in time for a decision to be made in first quarter 2013, it said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; congress; energy; frontenvirogroups; keystone; keystonexl; pipeline; soros; state
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Environmentalists

Who?

1 posted on 12/13/2011 5:27:44 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Congress giveth and Congress can take away.

Sorry, Hillary.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 5:30:26 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: Libloather
So, the Hildabeast has pointed to the environmental laws we need to get rid of first.

Time to get crackin'!

3 posted on 12/13/2011 5:31:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Libloather
The U.S. State Department warned on Monday that a plan by congressional Republicans to fast track the Canada-to-Texas Keystone XL pipeline decision would violate environmental laws and force it to withhold approval.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the State Department already approve the pipeline?

4 posted on 12/13/2011 5:31:15 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Libloather

Canada has already pretty much decided to sell this oil to China. I believe the pipeline is a dead issue.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 5:32:34 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: exit82

Where was the State Department while Obama was throwing away close to a Trillion Dollars on failed Green Energy Programs?


6 posted on 12/13/2011 5:33:45 AM PST by E.K. Crossbow
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To: Libloather

Who elected the State Department?


7 posted on 12/13/2011 5:34:49 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Libloather
Of course. Congress cannot do anything except pass bills, which then must be signed into law. However, Congress CAN pass a bill authorizing the pipeline. If signed into law, it could trump other bills passed into law, including environmental laws. However, the hypocrite in chief could veto that bill, which I think he would. That would expose him as a political hack, not a great statesman, interested in jobs. The State Department is irrelevant in this scenario.
8 posted on 12/13/2011 5:34:54 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Libloather
Who?

Exactly right! Who runs the Government? The People do, not a creations of politicians! In the America I grew up in ultimate authority rests in the PEOPLE. Even the state department takes a back seat to the people, they serve at the whim of our Republic.

9 posted on 12/13/2011 5:39:32 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: dirtboy

Yes with 27 pages of conditions, one of which was the obummer signing off on the project.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 5:43:52 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: saganite
Canada has already pretty much decided to sell this oil to China. I believe the pipeline is a dead issue.

Canada has warned that it will sell the oil to China. The issue is not dead.

11 posted on 12/13/2011 5:45:21 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Libloather

The pipeline doesn’t violate ANY “environmental laws”!
In fact it’s undergone 3 environmental reviews and PASSED!

Congress isn’t “changing deadlines”, it is obliterating deadlines and approving the pipeline.

The State Dept. is full of crap (which violates environmental laws)!


12 posted on 12/13/2011 5:45:45 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Libloather

Abolish the EPA.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 5:47:01 AM PST by bvw
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To: onedoug
Duh, you do know that it is a foreign country that is wishing to install a pipeline in the united states. Would you rather we turn our sovereignty over to the UN.
14 posted on 12/13/2011 5:47:32 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: muawiyah
The GOP Candidates need to start focusing on real issues like this one!

I am tired of the FUNDAMENTALS, the BETS, the OOPS, the HAIRY eyebrows commentary!

Let's just campaign on how we can change the here in now and give solutions how to get things done for the benefit of the Country and not for election of the POTUS.

If a Candidate can demonstrate he/she knows how to solve this problem today, not next January - Let's Roll!

15 posted on 12/13/2011 5:48:13 AM PST by not2worry
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To: Libloather

This is what happens when a communist traitor mole has succeeded in taking power.


16 posted on 12/13/2011 5:51:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BfloGuy

They also said they couldn’t wait until an election occurred to decide the issue, potentially changing nothing if the Dems win the White House again.


17 posted on 12/13/2011 5:51:24 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Libloather

Wait a minute....if this pipeline violates laws/Regulations.....then why did “O” ask for

“Obama directed the State Department last month to conduct an additional environmental review of the $7 billion pipeline.”

Why review it again, if it’s in violation of some regulation ?

I’m confused, could it just be “O” and the EPA playing games with jobs ?


18 posted on 12/13/2011 5:53:50 AM PST by 4Speed
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To: org.whodat

Again: Who elected the State Department?


19 posted on 12/13/2011 5:58:45 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: saganite

Keystone is not a dead issue yet, but the oil will be sold. It will either flow south or west to China.


20 posted on 12/13/2011 6:01:59 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: org.whodat

No, it is not a foreign country wanting to install a pipeline. It is a foreign company, TransCanada Pipelines, many of whose shareholders are US citizens.


21 posted on 12/13/2011 6:04:30 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: onedoug

It appears to me as though the State Department is telling the Congress that it is the State Department that is running this country.

Whoever becomes President after Bracko Bama, needs to clean out te State Department. That was one of Bush’s biggest mistakes, Not cleaning out that toilet.

Civil Service rules notwithstanding, clean out that nest of vipers.Fire every liberal POS there.


22 posted on 12/13/2011 6:05:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Libloather

Congress shouldn’t accelerate the decision nor set a deadline.

Congress should make the GD decision themselves as our founders intended.


23 posted on 12/13/2011 6:05:35 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Libloather

“Environmentalists say the pipeline would threaten Nebraska’s Sand Hills region and lead to higher greenhouse gas emissions, and had threatened to hold back on campaigning for Obama in the election.”

Environmental’s are Liberals are mentally challenged. In reading the above, and in reading just about any of the hare brained allegations of the World about them one can see their zero sum perspective, their Christmas Snow Globe perspective of the flat Earth that they have.

These idiots believe if they could shake the Globe the Earth is contained, or at least turn it upside down that the Earth inside the globe would be obscured by all the pollution, as fake snow obscures Santa Claus in the Christmas globe. They believe our atmosphere is so contained as is the content of that globe, that pollution cannot escape the planet’s atmosphere, and that the pollution just keeps building, and building, and building choking us all out, driving mankind, the birds, the critters, the orchids, all to extinction. It’s worth sittin’ on a curb with a bottle of Ripple in a brown bag, or even some Thunderbird.

WE homo sapiens are so blind due our insatiable greed that we cannot exist without the environmentally superior beings to guide us towards salvation of THEIR dear Mother Earth.

OH WERE THERE A GOD!

Do I really have to comment on the sarcasm?

A recent article posted at FR from a Science based publication advised us recent satellite measurements taken above our atmosphere prove we are not living inside a Christmas Globe, or any other Globe for that matter, and that the Earth is as open to escaping GHG’s into Space as are our two greenhouses behind the main barn into the Earths atmosphere.

It’s all in the mind. The Left is comprised of many inhibited by this apparent inability to see the whole picture as it is. They see a partial of what is, and imagine all the rest of what it is they espouse so it seems.

Flame away. It’s how I see them.


24 posted on 12/13/2011 6:09:50 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Foreign products crossing the border into another country, a distinction without a difference. Is what you are making. And the concept of a foreign company getting the rights of eminent domain, I do not think that is in the Constitution.
25 posted on 12/13/2011 6:09:59 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: onedoug

The congress.


26 posted on 12/13/2011 6:13:03 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Congress should make the GD decision themselves as our founders intended.

Which is a sign of how far we have fallen from our Founders - this should have never been under the Federal purview in the first place. Think 10th Amendment.

27 posted on 12/13/2011 6:15:02 AM PST by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: exit82

State needs to be taken out and shaken like a dirty throw rug.


28 posted on 12/13/2011 6:15:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BfloGuy
The last thing Canada wants to do is walk away from the better netback in the US. They'll wait for us to regain our sanity.
29 posted on 12/13/2011 6:17:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Libloather

Horse manure. And the State Department knows it. I thought the environmental impact statements gave Keystone XL a pass. There is absolutely no reason to delay this job creator.


30 posted on 12/13/2011 6:21:30 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: Libloather
Keystone XL pipeline decision would violate environmental laws

If it does, looks like we just found more work for our Republican-led House. We have a few environmental laws to eradicate.
31 posted on 12/13/2011 6:21:44 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: onedoug
Who elected the State Department?

The voters who elected Barack Obama. Elections have consequences.
32 posted on 12/13/2011 6:23:36 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Venturer

Remember how President Bush was skewered for firing 3 U.S. Attorneys. That was about like this furor over Lowe’s pulling the ads from the All American Muslim show. It was a firestorm, so he wasn’t going to change anything after that for sure. He should have though and told the Dems and the media to pound sand.


33 posted on 12/13/2011 6:24:32 AM PST by taterjay
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To: org.whodat
Duh, you do know that it is a foreign country that is wishing to install a pipeline in the united states.

Um, you do know that this is NOT the first transnational pipeline in North America, right?

North America Pipelines map


34 posted on 12/13/2011 6:30:32 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Libloather
believes this review could be completed in time for a decision to be made in first quarter 2013

In other words, our DEAR LEADER is once again voting PRESENT!
35 posted on 12/13/2011 6:32:19 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Yes and all of them went through the state department, unless you know of an exception, I do not.


36 posted on 12/13/2011 6:39:09 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: taterjay
Remember how President Bush was skewered for firing 3 U.S. Attorneys.

Oh man, thanks for reminding me of this one!!! Perfect timing for bringing this one back up! The Dems wanted the U.S. Attorney General at the time, Alberto Gonzales, FIRED for firing a few attorneys, but are blaming Bush and the Tea Party over Fast and Furious!! This right here is a great example of Democrat Political Relativism between them and non-Democrats.
37 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:42 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: BfloGuy
Correct. Canada has not ever stood in the way of this pipeline. They've approved it. They would prefer to sell to us.

Were they objecting to it in any way, the State Department might have a point. But since Canada has already approved the pipeline on their side of the border, the State Department needs to butt out and shut up. Otherwise, they are the ones interfering with international relations. Not congress.

BTW, congress could vote to defund any or even all of the whole damn State Department if they chose to do so.

38 posted on 12/13/2011 6:58:58 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Libloather

Gee, I always thought the Congress made law. Someone show me in the Constitution where the executive branch cabinet departments got to tell Congress what to do.


39 posted on 12/13/2011 7:00:15 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: bvw
Abolish the EPA.

Abolish the State Department

(or at least its Secretary)
40 posted on 12/13/2011 7:03:44 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Venturer

“Civil Service rules notwithstanding, clean out that nest of vipers.Fire every liberal POS there.”

I was my experience based on being a naval attache at an embassy long ago, that 95% of all State Department employees fall into the uber-liberal camp. We definitely need to clean house.


41 posted on 12/13/2011 7:07:01 AM PST by SailormanCGA72
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To: onedoug
The state department is influenced by Soros, Podesta is now an adviser.
42 posted on 12/13/2011 7:14:22 AM PST by opentalk
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To: org.whodat
Not a distinction without a difference.

Hey, I understand you are against the pipeline. That's ok, but your real argument is not eminent domain.

43 posted on 12/13/2011 7:25:44 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: 2001convSVT

I still recall a Playboy cartoon from my childhood..a father and his son viewing a statue of numerous people, “There are no great men,son, only great committees.”


44 posted on 12/13/2011 7:27:50 AM PST by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Wrong, I oppose eminent domain, the pipeline is ok, but they should make the companies provide the jobs they are claiming for the life of the pipeline. In short, if they claim 200000 jobs, they provide 200000 jobs for the life of the line and that is written into the approval.
45 posted on 12/13/2011 7:33:06 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Vigilanteman
defund...State Department

Agree. The state department is being used to promote gay rights agenda...Muslim outreach.. ..Rest of progressive agenda.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 7:34:28 AM PST by opentalk
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To: gnickgnack2
Sad but true, even in your father's time we have strayed from the path of our Founding Republic.
47 posted on 12/13/2011 7:44:48 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: org.whodat

Yeah, ok. I think I know where you are coming from.


48 posted on 12/13/2011 7:51:44 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: Libloather

Regardless of what congress passes, there will be a reason developed for stopping it. Congress is powerless to make any real difference.


49 posted on 12/13/2011 7:54:48 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: onedoug

The State Dept. is full of liberal wonks!


50 posted on 12/13/2011 8:25:05 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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